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Fallout 76 - Review Thread
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Interesting reviews. Who knew a shitty early access state game priced at $60 would review like one?
Can't blame em. Why continue going through the garbage when you know there's no gold to be found?
Can't blame em. Why continue going through the garbage when you know there's no gold to be found?
It is, if the cost to make it more flexible is the same or negligible at best. I'm not saying they should have made the engine multiplayer aware from the beginning, but there is a difference between making a quest it's own, static object and having the quest live on the player.
All these small changes add up and make it a lot harder to change it in the future, especially since more and more objects start to depend on these rigid assumptions being in place. For an engine that was supposed to evolve and support multiple games, it makes no sense to design it so inflexible. At the very least they should have refactored their code before FO76, not during development.
i feel the same, but my experience was Fallout 3 DLC on PS3. literally the worst pile of broken shit code i have ever had to endure, it was just unbelievable, i could only play it for a few minutes (at maybe 10-15 fps) and it always went to total shit, often just completely stalling, or going one frame per 20-30 seconds. i made myself dinner during one VATS sequence.
and i wasn't the only one, a LOT of people complained the DLC was unplayble on PS3. the best explanation i read was that if your savefile was large (like over 10mb), the game struggled to run because your savefile contained so many different changes you had made to the world (like moving objects etc). so basically the game punished those who played the most.. the biggest fans of the game got a shitty unplayble mess.
i asked Bethesda for help of course, and they were nice enough to reply and ask me to restart my console and so on, and said that they were looking into it.. but when i asked if i could get my money back somehow, they stopped responding (maybe i should have asked Sony, but still).
so yeah.. i waited 9 years :')
I think it's widely known that PlayStation is the last place you should buy Bethesda titles, for various reasons. PC is a must that way when they fuck up the community can fix it. I'm looking at you PS3 Oblivion vampire cure glitch. Never again.
yeah but i mean.. you'd expect a game to at least work, right? i can't play though Fallout 3 DLC on my PS3. it stalls and becomes the worlds slowest slideshow every single time. i never got to play Point Lookout because of it, even though i paid for it. Bethesda still owes me.
Forget frames per second. We're talking seconds per frame.
And I feel the same way. Bethesda games - even when they were good and GOTY contenders and all that - were technical disasters. It's always been an issue. The difference now is that "well, it's an open world and no one else does that" isn't an excuse anymore. Playing RDR2 and watching Fallout 76 footage makes them look like they're a full generation apart.
I feel like other open world games have caught up to and surpassed the Bethesda formula so much that this is the only thing that still applies when people bring out this tired talking point about how "no one is making games like Bethesda."
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Yeah for me, BGS games are practically a PC exclusive due to mods and console performance. I got the vampire glitch on 360 Oblivion as well, was a real bummer.
It is doubtful that any engineer gets it right the first time or even the second, but you expect them to iterate on systems to keep engine development manageable. In the process attempt to keep with current practices.
This is my point about stewardship. The issue really is with cost and specifically technical debt. They allowed the engine to get into this state and now making changes is seemingly a very difficult task.
That's almost any game but the 9 is from the friend not the game but the game takes credit for it
I know I was being sarcastic lol. I hate when people say that about a game.
As a side note to the reviews, the official fallout subreddit and the fallout 76 subreddit are at complete opposites with the game which is hilarious. Fallout subreddit users shit on it endlessly and the 76 users jump through hoops to defend the game. It's quite entertaining.
Sadly I've seen too many use that exact reason as justification for all of the terrible shit that's in Bethesda games.
Because who needs a playable modern engine or good RPG design and writing when you can put a bucket on an enemy's head and they're too fucking stupid to realize it's on them anyway?
I'm relieved to see the press have been honest with the review scores l was starting to get worried they give even shitty games good reviews.
About 3 of my friends have bought this game after the fact due to morbid curiosity from the horrible reviews and because they saw people essentially make meme vids and thought that those funny videos made it look fun. $60+ to send meme vids to your friends for a couple of days who don't have and aren't interested in the game.
Wouldn't be so bad but I care about the hobby a little more than they do so it bums me out to see that it's being supported.
Wouldn't be so bad but I care about the hobby a little more than they do so it bums me out to see that it's being supported.
This happened to me on the PS3 as well. Finished the game and Broken Steel but never got to play the rest of the DLC as the game just started crawling and crashing every time.
Broken pos.
I mean this respectfully, but I'm not sure why that would surprise you. The Press is often times pretty spot-on when it comes to General consensus about quality, even though there's always outliers.
The only time I see people really raising a fit about scores are when they have a personal dislike and expect reviewers to tear games like Assassin's Creed or Call of Duty apart for things that bother them personally, but really don't impact the overall experience. That's another debate entirely but to see a game that is clumsy and extremely undercooked as of now getting reviews that reflect that is pretty normal. It's just not common that a big AAA Studio puts out a product like that.
Something that needed to be a bigger issue last generation was calling out crappy ports of games, which Bethesda was also guilty of on PlayStation 3. I don't think reviews fairly reflected that because it was pretty obvious they only played it on one console and talked about it as if there was complete parity. That's not much of an issue this generation in general but I always like reviewers that specifically mention differences. If they exist.
I guess we're more or less on the same page then, though I still think some of these design decisions could have been made differently from the beginning.
I highly doubt it.
BGS has had no experience with a GaaS. And all there post release comments of
1) Expect spectacular bugs
2) TES6 and Starfield, and a small team in Austin would be maintaining 76
3) We don't really know what FO76 is, its up to the players
Makes me feel like this game was basically sent out to die in order to make a quick buck
The thing is all those non-static items that launch into air once you touch the table they're on with the tip of your toe contribute very little to the overall experience, at least it is the case for me. They are not made as an instrument or tool to be meaningfully interacted with in a sandbox environment. Making them static objects, that can still be removed and placed somewhere else, would ease the burden on the engine and make decorating one's home far less stressful.
Too many salty people ITT
If this game was called Gallout 76 and made by Rockstar y'all would say it's a 9.5.
If this game was called Gallout 76 and made by Rockstar y'all would say it's a 9.5.
It's the inverse. In an alternate reality we live with a 5/10 Belda and a 9.5/10 Gallout 76
Salty that they don't have the ability to understand this masterpiece.
It was a sarcasm post lol. Left out the /s because I wanna set the world on fire lol.
Or maybe if bethesda wasn't attached to it it wouldnt have a single review over 2/10
The world will never know
cant trick me ya bethesfan !!
Your username was a dead giveaway. No way would a New Vegas fan defend this game.
Not really. The game is so shit that even Bethesda's pass wasn't enough to rescue them. They finally crossed the threshold (better yet, they fuckin' flew over it on a rocket) of bugs being charming and bugs being infuriating.
Duke Nukem Forever?
It's a good quote but there's too many counterexamples.
Funnily enough despite all the reviews, opinions etc I'm still really looking forward to playing the game once it drops in price which probably won't be long. Enjoyed the beta a lot and had fun pottering about the world. Be interesting to see how well they support it going forward.
On the chance that this wasn't sarcasm.
The reviewers are salty that they have to play a, quote, "shitty game".
The only salty people in this thread are the ones calling the reviews a "smear campaign".
Uh, finally if this was a Rockstar game it probably wouldn't be a buggy POS.
If your post was sarcasm, you got me.
EDIT: you got me.
Well IGN have yet to release their review score (their Fallout videos are getting many thumbs down) l wonder why?
As of right now, even Skyrim (let alone juggernauts like Farming Simulator) is ahead of F76 in terms of twitch viewership.
I watched Cohh play a bit yesterday. Apocalyptic Garbage Collector Simulator would be a more apt title for the game.
You are not looking at godrays, you ARE the godray. Immersive player experience.
It seems reviews are user driven. When users are hyped, the score is high; when users are fed up, the score will reflect that. Many of the this game's problems have been there since forever, but only now reviewers start to point them all because the average players are finally fed up with Bethesda's bullshit.
In my wildest dreams, I never thought the reviews would be this bad.
I'm shocked tbh, and sad.
I'm shocked tbh, and sad.