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EU Calls On Netflix To Switch To SD During Coronavirus (Update: Netflix agrees. YouTube too. See threadmarks)
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Obviously. But the sheer hyperbole is what irked me.
I don't imagine that most people even pay for the 4K package and it's dependent on your broadband quality too.
You fuckers laughed at us that still RIP Blu Rays and have Plex servers. Who will be laughing when I can still watch movies locally via Plex?
SD is fine if it saves even one life. If the EU is concerned about the network, there's a reason to believe that lives are at stake. It's not hyperbole.
Some of you people need to actually log off and go sit in a dark corner somewhere. Not having internet is not getting people sick or killed. Jesus christ people. Demanding what the person paid for is fair.
Important information goes over the network. If the network gets overburdened, that information doesn't get to where it needs to go. People can't contact who they need to contact in time. DOCTORS use the networks. Doctors need the networks to be functional.
The problem is not internet exchange and ISP core, but local ISP infrastructure
UHD content on Netflix still looks better than HD content there.
It's not even sweating?
Netflix reduces bitrates for 30 days
Completely reasonable and fine with me. Good move by Netflix.
The real conversation I want us to have is with ISPs who are going to charge cap overages. I will blow through my cap this month because of working from home, and I'm sure a bunch of others will be in this situation as well.
The real conversation I want us to have is with ISPs who are going to charge cap overages. I will blow through my cap this month because of working from home, and I'm sure a bunch of others will be in this situation as well.
Good. Should happen in the US as well.
Can't wait for the "lower my subscription then" comments
The problem is that the infrastructure doesn't magically scale. Since people are more at home there's a lot more traffic.
This is probably a precaution to prevent outages.
Problem isn't "my houshold doesn't have enough bandwith". Problem is "infrastructure isn't build for such demand".
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The issue is that infrastructure can't handle all the data. How would that be solved by boosting everyone?
It isn't, but we can't force them to fix infrastructure right now because the world is on lockdown.
These issues should be kept in mind for future legislation and requirements for bandwidth and coverage in areas, but for right now we should make sure that everybody can still use the internet unimpeded.
Too much network congession could be damning in a crisis. Demanding your crispy clean picture at the potential expense of emergency communications being limited is a real dick move.
Can't believe some people in this thread.
Ensure working at home is efficient and reliable, is far more important than 4K Netflix
Ensure working at home is efficient and reliable, is far more important than 4K Netflix
If the cap is 720/1080 i'll keep my sub. Otherwise I am cancelling for now. I have no issue with this move but I am not paying for 480p.
If the EU asks for Epic to shut down Fortnite that's when you'll see riots of masked teenagers in the streets. A massive amount of Internet traffic the other week here in Italy was Fortnite.
If the EU asks for Epic to shut down Fortnite that's when you'll see riots of masked teenagers in the streets. A massive amount of Internet traffic the other week here in Italy was Fortnite.
For once I'm happy I don't live in Europe
This may seem a little petty but 480p isn't watchable for me on my 65" TV. I've been using it to watch one movie a day and would probably stop if it was SD here. Considering the price of the 4K upgrade there's not even enough 4K content.
This may seem a little petty but 480p isn't watchable for me on my 65" TV. I've been using it to watch one movie a day and would probably stop if it was SD here. Considering the price of the 4K upgrade there's not even enough 4K content.
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Because that's not how (residential) ISPs works.
Residential internet is a shared resource where all local traffic is funneled into a pipe that isn't the sum of all bandwidth on that local area, so for example if 100 homes have each 1 gigabit that doesn't mean (and normally never does) that the ISP has a 100gigabit link to the ISP core. It might be 10, 30,40 gigabit, so everything's funneled. Multiply that to each node of an ISP and you quickly realize why in critical times some services need to cut off some of more hungry bandwidth applications.
If you want dedicated internet speed (and capacity) you have to pay a lot lot more.
It's just the business model that lets you have cheap internet.
Yup if you're paying for 4K then you should get 4K. If you're getting DVD quality then your subscription should be based on the standard definition package. I will just cancel if they do this in the US. DVD is unwatchable for me on a 65 inch 4K OLED tv. I won't bother.
Because if people suddenly can't work from home anymore, they have to go into work.
My Belgian ISP has already announced they aren't doing caps.
Fortnite doesn't have an actual impact on the internet. It is not that popular. 60% of all internet traffic is video.
And that gaming includes the stuff being downloaded.
Can you still download the full fat versions? No reason to stop people doing that at night (for instance).
Oh I don't mind Netflix helping to reduce traffic but I hope they realise it's their £6 monthly subscription that only allows standard definition content and many people are paying £9 or £12 a month.
If Netflix is locking their streams to standard definition I hope they're reducing all subscription prices to £6 as well.
Will wait till I get an official email from Netflix. Also where are the numbers, chart, whatever that this is necessary.
I feel like people have had it driven into their heads that bandwidth caps are pointless money grabs(which they are for 99% of people who reach them) and are confusing it with what the EU is trying to do here.
There is an infrastructure challenge that has nothing to do with speed, rather how much data can travel at one time. Imagine trying to get out of a city and everyone is suddenly trying to get out at once and there are only two lanes to get out. You'll have a huge bottleneck. Now imagine if many of those are massive trucks that take up two lanes. You can add more lanes and ease the traffic, but if everyone is leaving there's no one to add those lanes. In this case, those huge trucks are being told to lower their loads so more can get through at one time. The truck in this very shitty analogy is netflix lol.
There is an infrastructure challenge that has nothing to do with speed, rather how much data can travel at one time. Imagine trying to get out of a city and everyone is suddenly trying to get out at once and there are only two lanes to get out. You'll have a huge bottleneck. Now imagine if many of those are massive trucks that take up two lanes. You can add more lanes and ease the traffic, but if everyone is leaving there's no one to add those lanes. In this case, those huge trucks are being told to lower their loads so more can get through at one time. The truck in this very shitty analogy is netflix lol.
internet is a shared resource, especially for consumer internet.
When you get fancy 1 gbit fiber or docsis internet, you don't get 1 gbit dedicated you. You just get a modem/ONT that has a config file in it that allows it to take 1 gbit of the bandwith cake. The bandwith cake is what everyone in your neighborhood shares. It's usually nowhere near the capacity of everyone's max speeds added up. For example, in my neighborhood, we have GPON-FTTH. 2.4gbit down and 1.2 gbit up split between 16 users. Yet you can still subscribe to 1 gbit down 1 gbit up like I have, and still get max speed almost at all times - because people generally don't max out their internet speeds, especially not for extended period of time.
But now is not a regular time, more people are home and they're all hungry for distraction. So people use far more bandwith than usual, causing congestion.
You *can* buy dedicated bandwith, which is usually what businesses do, but its very expensive.
If it's 25% reduction it's definitely not SD folks, it's either lower bitrate on 4k videos or 1080p max.
