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EU Calls On Netflix To Switch To SD During Coronavirus (Update: Netflix agrees. YouTube too. See threadmarks)
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That or grind the internet to a halt due to lack of bandwidth and the ability to increase bandwidth due to quarantines?
I mean it's a silly comment made in a response to a silly comment by another person I'm not being serious, but people are making light jokes in regards to not being able to view Netflix in HD and others come in wanting them to self flagellate with misery, the forum can at times feel like a bottomless abyss.
i really don't think all the replies are joking lol
also again, if having all the tv in the world at our fingertips at 480p instead of 4k temporarily is "self flagellation" then yeah we really need some sort of global attitude adjustment. i don't want people to be miserable, i want them to be kind and understanding. some creature comforts might have to be dialed back for a while. we'll be fine
Fair and only appropriately proportionate measures should be taken. Why pick only on Netflix though, and not the gazillion of other streaming services? And why SD, and not just limit from 4k to 1080p or even 720p during working hours for example, to allow for more video calls etc..
Also why all of the EU? Every country has its own network infrastructure, and then local infrastructures within that.
EDIT: Also can't the broadband providers themselves just simply throttle the connection to Netflix etc when there is peak demand? Doesn't need any intervention from Netflix then.
Also why all of the EU? Every country has its own network infrastructure, and then local infrastructures within that.
EDIT: Also can't the broadband providers themselves just simply throttle the connection to Netflix etc when there is peak demand? Doesn't need any intervention from Netflix then.
All I can see is a pixel.
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My typical FaceTime 30 minutes call is about 600 mb. If you do several of those a day I can see why you would struggle
I simply must have 4K.
Sacrifices of the literal kind should be made.
No one half-way tech savvy will have to compromise, and there's nothing Netflix or the EU can do about that.
Except if your ISP starts throttling netflix traffic.
(then again, using a VPN might avoid that, until your VPN provider craps up or your ISP throttles all traffic)
For real. Some of the responses in this thread are proof positive of that.
"standard definition content to users in times of peak demand"
I think you should be alright most of the time.
I just checked and 8h shift takes 900MB while using VPN in my case. Even if you can work locally without vpn, you probably will use more internet than while working in office. It's not that much individually but when millions of people are working from home it adds up.
FTTH is shared bandwith too. It can absolutely get overloaded.
Nothing, I just find it funny how easily Netflix gets targetted when for example TV channels get mostly broadcasted over the internet in France, and I'm sure other countries are the same.
Let's not even talk about all the people currently playing online games, watching youtube, streaming music, etc.
Sure, it would be nice to have a more stable internet connection atm, but the EU really loves hating on Netflix.
lock it at 1080p and give those on the 4K plan a discount/credit.
what about youtube? y'kno the 2nd top site in the world? shouldn't they be cut down first?
what about Amazon? Apple?
what about youtube? y'kno the 2nd top site in the world? shouldn't they be cut down first?
what about Amazon? Apple?
IPTV is usually streamed from each individual ISP to customers of that ISP only, so it doesn't put stress on overall internet infrastructure.
Online games use minuscule amount of bandwidth, not even worth mentioning.
Youtube doesn't use that much bandwidth since it has rather poor quality, most ppl watch something like 720p video quality or maybe less.
Streaming music also uses minuscule amount of bandwidth.
Netflix is a bandwidth hog and it puts a strain on overall internet infrastructure.
Now some people are asking, why is EU asking to do this? Well, because so many companies work across all of EU. For example, my friend can't provide support to certain EU countries already because the internet infrastructure has overloaded.
I'm not saying Netflix isn't a bandwidth hog, all I'm saying is that it isn't the end all be all solution to save our internet infrastructure. There are loads of other internet services that would need to do the same for it to have a real, helpful, impact.
It even mentions in the OP that other streaming services were also contacted. Not just Netflix.
As for that first question, I can answer that: Netflix is the only seriously big streaming service in the EU. It's in every EU country and used by millions. Amazon Prime Video and Disney+ isn't available in every country, Rakuten is way too small to really have any impact and the local options are usually very shitty (Dutch streaming services for instance only offer max. 1080p and often they struggle to even achieve that).
So they're reaching out to Netflix because essentially Netflix is the only streaming service big enough to matter in the EU.
EDIT: Also, it says in the article that they did reach out to YouTube.
I literally just bought a 65 inch LG 4K TV for the COVID....
No, probably one of the best in the world. In countries where nobody is out and everyone is stuck at home, you have people FaceTiming, watching 4K content, playing Xbox, downloading music, etc. at rates tens or hundreds of times higher than usual. It causes it to become sluggish and strained.
Unfortunately the pandemic isn't taking as seriously everywhere. Alot of people here are ignoring the recommendations and going out as usual/having parties/etc. Alot of people are also not allowed to work from home office, even if there is no good reason not to. I could pull my hair out over this behavior.
While I think that makes sense, I don't think we should ever trust the telecom industry. Maybe in the EU and the UK you all don't have as much of a history of getting fucked over the way some of us others do.
Maybe compromise initially and limit Netflix HD subscribers to 720p and 4k subscribers to 1440p.
As far as the 'free' side of youtube, drop the higher framerate option and limit it to 720p.
That would cut things down a fair chunk initially. See how in goes from there and take more action if they need to.
As far as the 'free' side of youtube, drop the higher framerate option and limit it to 720p.
That would cut things down a fair chunk initially. See how in goes from there and take more action if they need to.
Doing a quick google search, it looks like the US internet average is quite a bit faster than most of the EU. And the US has gigabit available in most everywhere now, so I don't think it's many times better than the US. I'm not trying to turn this into a competition, but that doesn't seem accurate.
Speedtest Global Index – Internet Speed around the world – Speedtest Global Index
Find out which countries have the fastest internet speeds in the world. View global monthly comparisons of fixed and mobile internet speeds.
www.speedtest.net
No, it's great in general.
But networks in general aren't designed for "worst case scenarios" - something that we are living through currently with everyone at home trying to find constant distractions.
Or just accept that this is a special circumstance, and just move on.
They probably went outside...
Oh wait!
In all seriousness get it done if it is putting strain on the network.