Do you feel the PS5 could be Sony's best selling console ever?
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short term sure, long term i doubt it. the economy is still not done taking a beating
PS2 is out of range imo, because the competition is bigger this time around and unlike PS4 gen Nintendo and Xbox don't seem to mess up. Xbox One was a pr nightmare at the start and Wii U simply not attractive. This gen Xbox is doing better and has more studios to compete with Series X, while the Switch has very strong momentum.
I think the PS5 will sell really good and maybe beat PS4, but I think PS2 will still be king.
I think the PS5 will sell really good and maybe beat PS4, but I think PS2 will still be king.
It could be the fastest selling PlayStation ever by a considerable margin, but the PS2 kept performing well years into the PS3 due to the lackluster launch, so Sony would probably not want to repeat that slow transition again.
We're in the opening stages of the worst economic disaster in almost 100 years. The new consoles will sell out this holiday, then reality will set in next year.
The PS2 launched for $299 and doubled as a DVD player. It's a benchmark that's pretty much impossible to hit.
I don't think it can top PS2, and all metrics right now are just that it will have a really great launch and perhaps get to 25-30M units pretty quickly. There's too many uncertainties after that IMO. Covid-19 did change things. If anything, Sony might reconsider PS4 being the main driver of sales after this year and launching a cheap discless $150 PS4 for everyone to jump into gaming cheaply.
Absolutely not, nothing will touch PS2.
Sony doesn't drop the price as much as before, just look at PS3/4.
Also there's a recession incoming.
Sony doesn't drop the price as much as before, just look at PS3/4.
Also there's a recession incoming.
This means capacity. It scales up and down based on actual demand. See: any time Apple have reduced the number of iPhones. These consoles wont peak in sales until we are out of a recession and theres a vaccination available.
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when they tout they can make up to 180m its a way for the production line to promote their abilities, nothing more.
No chance, price and lifecycles won't allow it to touch PS2. If I had to guess based on what's known now I'd say sales fall between PS1 and PS4 but that could always change.
Likewise based on what's currently known I bet XSX/XSS falls between One and 360. Switch trajectory looks like an EOL somewhere between GB and DS (though closer to GB) so Gen 9 may actually end up with some big growth over Gen 8 (minus dedicated handhelds).
Likewise based on what's currently known I bet XSX/XSS falls between One and 360. Switch trajectory looks like an EOL somewhere between GB and DS (though closer to GB) so Gen 9 may actually end up with some big growth over Gen 8 (minus dedicated handhelds).
It's more likely to be the worst selling one or somewhere between PS3 and PS1. Nintendo is eating their lunch pretty badly and no one seems to acknowledge it.
This. I think the next 5 years (at least) are going to be absolutely brutal for a lot of people.
No way. PS5 is going to be facing stiffer competition than PS2 or PS4 did as Nintendo is doing gangbusters currently and Microsoft is recovering nicely from XBO. Additionally, it will probably cost more than Sony's previously successful consoles.
Covid-19 and the linked recession, more competition, and likely price all leads to a 'No' so far.
We can discuss which one of those factors will be most significant.
We can discuss which one of those factors will be most significant.
In a generation where streaming services will push to become the Netflix of games, where mobiles are taking attention away, where movie streaming is the way most peoples consume media thus removing the need of a cheap optical media like PS2's DVD player, I don't see how it could.
Not a chance. It will sell well, but with the economic downturn a large portion of the world is about to face will make it tough. It will probably outsell the PS3 but I doubt it will reach PS4 numbers. By the time the PS6 is ready to come out consoles in general will be a lot less appealing, so the PS2 remains the king.
edit: I'm shocked PS4 is still 45 million short of PS2.
PS5 will have to do well to barely outsell the PS3 (about 90 million I think)
edit: I'm shocked PS4 is still 45 million short of PS2.
PS5 will have to do well to barely outsell the PS3 (about 90 million I think)
hell no, its not even going to pass the PS4. Along with competition from two xbox consoles, nintendo, PC becoming more popular every year, and game streaming gaining ground I don't see the PS5 doing as well as the PS4 or PS2. That doesn't mean that it still won't be incredibly successful, it will still be the best selling console worldwide next gen.
Also worldwide/US economy wont be great the next year or beyond so the cheaper offerings will have an advantage.
Also worldwide/US economy wont be great the next year or beyond so the cheaper offerings will have an advantage.
I mean if you compared Wii+360+PS3+DS+PSP vs just PS4/Xbox1/Switch....
No, I don't think so. The PS4 had the best chance since it launched at a low price against a more expensive and weaker system with all sorts of PR issues. The PS5 is expected to launch at a higher price, Microsoft will be more competitive and the overall console userbase seems to have plateaued.
I don't think it's gonna trouble the PS2 honestly.
The PS5 is looking like a 'gamers' machine. It's big, won't just slip un-noticed into your entertainment centre and, in a world where content is all digitally delivered these days via smart TVs and cheap boxes, it doesn't have that mainstream hook to get it into your family's living room (beyond wanting a console to play new games obviously).
The PS2 was the best and cheapest DVD player for a long time and then sold tens of millions of units after the PS3 launched when they managed to ship a tiny version for $99. Its sales just never ended. I doubt we see that for any new PlayStation. It was such a moment.
The PS5 is looking like a 'gamers' machine. It's big, won't just slip un-noticed into your entertainment centre and, in a world where content is all digitally delivered these days via smart TVs and cheap boxes, it doesn't have that mainstream hook to get it into your family's living room (beyond wanting a console to play new games obviously).
The PS2 was the best and cheapest DVD player for a long time and then sold tens of millions of units after the PS3 launched when they managed to ship a tiny version for $99. Its sales just never ended. I doubt we see that for any new PlayStation. It was such a moment.
That depends. What do y'all consider PS5's next-gen 'hook'? It all looks 'nice' but no one feature seems to be dominating the 'must have' hype mindshare.
PS2 sold over 50 million consoles after X360 and PS3 launched so it had exceptionally long shelf time. This isn't possible today when there's a lot more competition from mobile games etc.
Also MS and Nintendo have much more competitive products on the market instead of what they had with og Xbox and GC.
So no, that's not gonna happeen.
Also MS and Nintendo have much more competitive products on the market instead of what they had with og Xbox and GC.
So no, that's not gonna happeen.
There's just so much more competition.
They're not just bringing out their wallets for the exclusives to fight against Microsoft's Xbox. But it's PC that has been growing steadily for the past decade, mobile that keeps growing year-on-year, Nintendo having a killer machine with the Switch and then you have game streaming that seems to be the next thing this decade. At the end of the day people only have X amount of hours to spend. And now launching in the middle of a recession, I can't see PS2 numbers happening. I can't see PS4 numbers happening at the moment tbh.
They're not just bringing out their wallets for the exclusives to fight against Microsoft's Xbox. But it's PC that has been growing steadily for the past decade, mobile that keeps growing year-on-year, Nintendo having a killer machine with the Switch and then you have game streaming that seems to be the next thing this decade. At the end of the day people only have X amount of hours to spend. And now launching in the middle of a recession, I can't see PS2 numbers happening. I can't see PS4 numbers happening at the moment tbh.
PS4 was the best case in the modern gaming market. It was a masterclass in how to design, launch, support, and phase out a console.
Meanwhile Nintendo brought a DOA Wii U as contender and Microsoft completely botched the XB1. Sony had the PS4 hitting right with consumers on almost every note (pricing, content, services).
I could see PS5 having a shot at being Sony's most profitable console. With how digital, services, and 1st party have taken off.
Meanwhile Nintendo brought a DOA Wii U as contender and Microsoft completely botched the XB1. Sony had the PS4 hitting right with consumers on almost every note (pricing, content, services).
I could see PS5 having a shot at being Sony's most profitable console. With how digital, services, and 1st party have taken off.
PS2? Not going to happen, that was a once in a lifetime seller. Extremely rare for any product to make those kinds of numbers.
PS4? Provided momentum is on their side and they keep it up, possibly?
PS1? Most likely, if Sony play their cards right it'll sell 100 million in 5 years.
Of course, there's a lot of different factors at play. We'll be in a massive recession next year, and competition is tougher than it was during the PS4's peak.
PS4? Provided momentum is on their side and they keep it up, possibly?
PS1? Most likely, if Sony play their cards right it'll sell 100 million in 5 years.
Of course, there's a lot of different factors at play. We'll be in a massive recession next year, and competition is tougher than it was during the PS4's peak.
No. It has to have a failure rate like the PS2's "Disk Dead Error" fiasco to catch those numbers again.
