For me to choose 30fps in a racing game when 60fps is offered, it would need to be such a mind-bogglingly stark difference in visuals. I might try quality out of sheer curiosity, but there's not way I'll keep it there
Digital Foundry: Forza Horizon 5 Tech Analysis: An Xbox Series X Masterpiece
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There's no default, it let's you choose as soon as you're in the start menu.
Awesome looking game
I still really enjoyed FH4, I'm just nit picky about Horizon games these days because I've played so many of them and know exactly what Improvements I'm looking for at this point.
I'll probably settle for quality mode. The only problem is that for the whole time i'm playing Horizon 5 I won't be able to play other games that run at 60 fps otherwise coming back to 30 fps will feel terrible. And I don't know what other game I will be able to play together with Horizon 5, 99% of the games out there on xbox are 60 fps...
PG always had their 30fps feel as close to 60fps then any other. The super high quality motion blur and low latency makes their 30fps play like no other. Never budges below 30fps no matter what
Everyone arguing about whatever as always lol. But, just wanted to give props to John and whoever else helped him on this video. This was an amazing video! This is not the standard performance/stats comparison videos, which is coming separately, but a deeper and more experiential exploration of the presentation of the game with tons of technical detail and development insight. Well produced and clearly a lot of care went into planning, organizing, presenting every part of it. A joy to watch throughout.
I especially really enjoyed that sound section at the end. John managed to really sell the music and sound in a way that didn't opine whatsoever on the soundtrack of the game in the radios and stuff. Rather, he focused on the technical aspect of the audio raytracing reacting realistically to the material properties of the surrounding concrete, dirt, metal, etc AND on how the audio from voices, music, cars, environment come together in spectacular ways in the more guided moments of the game. The "sound demonstration" part of the video (you can see a progress bar at the top right of the video when it's happening) gave me a few goosebumps, just feeling how the sound builds up and cuts away dynamically in response to what you're doing, and yet in a clearly planned and organized way.
The amount of love put into almost every part of this game is pretty damn cool.
I especially really enjoyed that sound section at the end. John managed to really sell the music and sound in a way that didn't opine whatsoever on the soundtrack of the game in the radios and stuff. Rather, he focused on the technical aspect of the audio raytracing reacting realistically to the material properties of the surrounding concrete, dirt, metal, etc AND on how the audio from voices, music, cars, environment come together in spectacular ways in the more guided moments of the game. The "sound demonstration" part of the video (you can see a progress bar at the top right of the video when it's happening) gave me a few goosebumps, just feeling how the sound builds up and cuts away dynamically in response to what you're doing, and yet in a clearly planned and organized way.
The amount of love put into almost every part of this game is pretty damn cool.
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The technology of Forza Horizon 5: an Xbox Series X masterpiece
For nearly as long as video games have existed, the racing game has stood as a monument to state-of-the-art technology …www.eurogamer.net
Thank you for the text summary! Series S sounds solid, but I'll have to see how it looks on my TV in person I guess. I'm starting to second-guess my choice of a Series S now that I have an OLED.
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There's no default, it let's you choose as soon as you're in the start menu.
Awesome looking game
DAYUM.
There's no default, it let's you choose as soon as you're in the start menu.
Awesome looking game
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" Xbox One X doesn't just have more pixels, it's a far richer experience all around (compared to One S) - it's close to Series X and Series S performance modes, just running at half frame-rate. Quality mode on Series consoles is a world apart in terms of detail, fidelity and integrity - level of detail is astonishing. "
Yeah, aside from Ratchet & Clank, I can't see what games compares this year
Agreed. It's almost hard to fathom how good games are going to look 3-4 years from now.
Nice, I just wish it had more details about specifics like the Series X version.
I am kind of surprised the John did not mention what mode he prefers to play the game in or did I miss that part? It was a great video, but i don't recall him discussing what he prefers based on his time with the game so far.
For me I have about 2 hours in the game in Quality mode. I going to log in under my wife's account and start over in performance mode so I can do that amazing opening sequence but at 60fps.
For me I have about 2 hours in the game in Quality mode. I going to log in under my wife's account and start over in performance mode so I can do that amazing opening sequence but at 60fps.
Were it not for some of the pop-in issues, I'd say considering the level of overall image quality at 4k, this is the best looking game ever made.
I'm waiting for the next-gen only title from the Coalition. You know that's going to be one of the most optimized and beautiful games out there.
This game on Series X is right up there with R&C as the best looking games on next gen right now. Better in some ways, worse in others, but I'd still put it on the same pedestal. Kind of bummed I'll be playing it on Series S, honestly, but still really looking forward to it.
Playground Games is probably MS's most technically and artistically proficient developer, and it shows to an amazing degree in this game. Can you imagine how Fable is going to look?
Playground Games is probably MS's most technically and artistically proficient developer, and it shows to an amazing degree in this game. Can you imagine how Fable is going to look?
this is not true. Fired up the game just now and it engage Dolby Vision mode on my LG OLED.
It WAS true until they pushed a server side update allowing Dolby vision 2 hours ago
well that explains that. I didn't see that pushed an update!! I just remembered the comment from earlier today and when it loaded up, it surprised me.
For real. Over here just staring at the clock to see if its midnight like... HURRY UP.
just change your region to New Zealand, I promise you won't get in trouble for doing this.
Start playing now!
After playing in both modes, performance is the way to go for me because quality mode just looks too blurry to me in motion and it really does not allow me to appreciate the extra detail. The 60fps of performance mode solve this problem completely but, I got to admit, the pop in is way more noticeable than i was hoping for.
I really hope Playground games releases a new mode in a lower resolution but at 60fps and without pop in, I think I'd rather play that.
I really hope Playground games releases a new mode in a lower resolution but at 60fps and without pop in, I think I'd rather play that.
I cannot even imagine what the next one will look like after dropping last gen. Bravo to the devs at Playground. Just amazing.
What was the point of putting "Teardrops" by Bring Me The Horizon on the soundtrack when at least half of the song is censored?
you should listen to the NBA 2k soundtrack. So many songs get butchered because half the lyrics are just chopped out. I don't understand why include the song as it just sounds terrible
Someone already mentioned the graphics, so I'll focus on the rest I remember being different.
- Series S has less loading screens and shorter loading when it happens.
- The audio files are of higher quality and the console uses RT for audio.
- Double the framerate iirc
I absolutely agree. Huge credits to Dark1x . This video was amazing and I really liked he focuses on sound, too.
Dolby vision is working now.
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Apologies in advance if this is a stupid question, I know that performance mode runs at dynamic 4k/60 and Quality mode is 4K/30.
However i only have a 1080p plasma that i game on, therefore would I be able to play Quality Mode at a higher framerate seeing as my Xbox will only output at 1080p? Or is this something the developers would need to implement as an option?
I think i know what the answer will be, but would appreciate clairifaction.
Thanks in advance
However i only have a 1080p plasma that i game on, therefore would I be able to play Quality Mode at a higher framerate seeing as my Xbox will only output at 1080p? Or is this something the developers would need to implement as an option?
I think i know what the answer will be, but would appreciate clairifaction.
Thanks in advance
Even if you're running a 1080p TV, the Xbox will output at 4k and just downsample.
So, no, afraid not. You'll have the same options as everyone else. Positive being that the 4k downsampled image will look loads nicer than 1080p even on a 1080p TV.
Where I'd pick up something like Control in Performance mode, 30fps with Ray Tracing, I would just have to go in on 60fps on something like this. I feel like with racing, you need that responsiveness.
try the 30fps mode first PG has the most responsive 30fps out there their latency is super low and the physics run at like 360fps. Plus with the top notch motion blur it's really good
Just looking at the videos, 60fps via Youtube, it just feels night and day to me. The 30fps looks really filmic, really nice, but that isn't what I want from a game like this.
And, for added context, I'm not really a framerate purist either. I played through Age Of Calamity with my boy in co-op and didn't have a problem! Just racing games in particular though.
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Like scrolling through PC Pre-set options, with the last 2 (SS and SX quality) being a toggle in increasing resolution.
Does that video need its own thread? Its incredible, watching the video now they even have the OG One box!