on the upside, vermin supreme has pledged his bannermen to the sanders cause.
our victory is undeniable. you cannot stop us.
No, dummy, the factors are obviously exactly the same as they were four years agoSure this was covered but you are aware there is like 3-4x the number of candidates now then there was at this time in 2016, right?
it's not unprecedented for joe bidenSo is the sheer level of failure from a candidate like Biden unprecedented?
You may not watch CNN or MSNBC, but millions of people do, especially older people who vote. Random people on the internet shouldn't typically be viewed as having more weight than people who get paid to spout their opinions 24/7. If people didn't listen to them, they wouldn't be getting paid.Hm. I seem to have touched a nerve here. Sorry 'bout that, y'all. That part of the post was meant to be tongue-in-cheek, but clearly it rubbed some folks the wrong way.
Yeah, the thing about very online people is fair. I see a lot of 'em, so it colors my thinking, but I do get that there's not that many of 'em. I was just trying to comment on the fact that somehow, in their efforts to proselytize, they had the opposite effect. For me, at least.
And I'd agree about systematic changes, though we'd probably disagree on what exactly that means. That seems to be a real friction point, honestly. People want to solve the problems, but what exactly the solution is remains more contentious.
So, my thing with the major news outlets is that I'm sort of going in with the assumption they're going to suck? Like, I don't need to see what CNN is saying about Bernie to know that it's probably going to be dumb because almost everything CNN says about Democrats is going to be dumb. That's just their default mode of operation. out here talking heads like it's Wrestlemania. I don't even really watch them any more, so all I can really comment on is the stuff I am seeing, which is mostly coming from other people online.
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And on that note... I've seen a lot of "surely the 'vote blue no matter who' people will vote for Bernie, right? clutches pearls for comic effect" type posts lately, and y'all get that the answer to that is mostly yes, right? Or it is here, anyway. The statement does apply to Bernie. Like, I can't speak for one hundred percent of other people who've encouraged people to vote for the nominee no matter who it is, and I can only respond to posts that I see, and I haven't seen much in the way of "if it's Bernie I'm out" type posts from privileged people, but I'd cheerfully yell at them just as hard as I yell at privileged Bernie or Busters. Not going around singling the Bernie folks out or applying an uneven standard here. He's not my first pick but I'll cheerfully call for him, knock on doors for him, and vote for him come November. Easy call.
Steyer literally spent his entire campaign in SC.
what the fuck
Fake news!
edit: tweet deleted just as I typed this lol.
Every other candidate got less than half of Clinton's votes. That's a bad night for them I guess.Yes, but losing literally half our voters isn't a good thing. Even if you add all of Warren's voters to his he is still far behind where he was. Some loss can be expected but this is big and meaningful and shouldn't be brushed aside. It is really pointing towards a contested convention rather than a winner.
I disagree. If the fallacious idea of electability is your metric then Pete and Bloomberg are perfect candidates.
In my opinion Warren sealed her fate with the DNA test. If she was the nominee Trump would only have to get up at the White House press conference and say "Pocahontas" and the media wouldn't stop talking about it. Repeat every morning and Warren becomes Hillary 2.0 in November, winning the popular vote while losing the electoral college.
Okay, I thought you were joking about Vermin Supreme.Listen, you dog faced pony soldier.
How dare you ignore the (withdrawn) Martin O'Malley (MOM) and Vermin Supreme?
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howarddeanscream.rmSo is the sheer level of failure from a candidate like Biden unprecedented?