Boy have we gotten rowdy and petty.
Folks! Solidarity! We musn't take our anger out on each other!
Bernie is calling out the emphasis the media is putting on SDEs, and he has a point.
oh give me a break. tom perez can sneeze at an inopportune time and people would be in here crying rigging. it's ridiculous. there is literally no way they could have handled this that would have convinced people they're not trying to stomp bernie.The whole process has been abnormal with irregularities abound way before. Again, why now? The timing is atrocious.
you know what else could cost dems the election? constant conspiracy theories about how the election is being rigged! it's super toxic if the nominee isn't bernie, and if it is bernie - why bother to vote if everyone has been telling you for months that ~the establishment~ won't let him win!Everyone should be scared of the DNC tomfoolery - these idiots could cost the Dems the election.
Watergate and the term ratfucking are both in the influential political book (and movie) I mentioned earlier. It has been influential on modern language, even outside of political contexts, but sometimes the terms are used in their original meaning. Now, I'm off to be cute.It's cool to be cute with little snipes, but being a condescending shit stain also isn't acceptable. So how about you cut the shit?
The two-party system is such a cancer on the US.Literally the best thing people defending party leadership can say is that they are all impossible fuckups. Like, even if, for some reason, you think this isn't a transparent attempt to nullify a potential Sanders victory, you can't deny that it looks that way.
Remember when Epstein died and everybody in the world reserved judgement, waited for more evidence, and said "hold on guys, let's be rational about this?" No, you don't, because they all just unanimously shouted "bullshit!" because that's what it looked like.
If you don't think this is a problem, then how severe does the appearance of corruption need to be before it becomes one?
and then Democrats wonder why people don't voteSame number of National Delegates, thousands more votes for Bernie but Pete is the winner. Makes total sense
Idk maybe the DNC shouldn't be giving them reason to think that?? They're doing this to themselves. The fault lies with the DNC no matter how you spin this.oh give me a break. tom perez can sneeze at an inopportune time and people would be in here crying rigging. it's ridiculous. there is literally no way they could have handled this that would have convinced people they're not trying to stomp bernie.
you know what else could cost dems the election? constant conspiracy theories about how the election is being rigged! it's super toxic if the nominee isn't bernie, and if it is bernie - why bother to vote if everyone has been telling you for months that ~the establishment~ won't let him win!
That's the one! Get em!But friend! Comrade! Do you not see that we are all we have? We must love each other! 🔫
I hear you, but this really isn't the time for this message when you have the Biden campaign openly saying they don't trust the results etc. This caucus was a pretty singular and epic fuckup and there has to be questions asked (which, granted, some may be misguided)oh give me a break. tom perez can sneeze at an inopportune time and people would be in here crying rigging. it's ridiculous. there is literally no way they could have handled this that would have convinced people they're not trying to stomp bernie.
you know what else could cost dems the election? constant conspiracy theories about how the election is being rigged! it's super toxic if the nominee isn't bernie, and if it is bernie - why bother to vote if everyone has been telling you for months that ~the establishment~ won't let him win!
Watergate and the term ratfucking are both in the influential political book (and movie) I mentioned earlier. It has been influential on modern language, even outside of political contexts, but sometimes the terms are used in their original meaning. Now, I'm off to be cute.
You already seem to know about it, but if I see any more questions I can answer in the future, I'll do my best. We all have blind spots.I'm very excited to await your next lesson where you explain to me Deep Throat wasn't just the name of a 70's porno but was actually an informant for this "Gate" thing.
I'm very excited to await your next lesson where you explain to me Deep Throat wasn't just the name of a 70's porno but was actually an informant for this "Gate" thing.
oh give me a break. tom perez can sneeze at an inopportune time and people would be in here crying rigging. it's ridiculous. there is literally no way they could have handled this that would have convinced people they're not trying to stomp bernie.
you know what else could cost dems the election? constant conspiracy theories about how the election is being rigged! it's super toxic if the nominee isn't bernie, and if it is bernie - why bother to vote if everyone has been telling you for months that ~the establishment~ won't let him win!
Same number of National Delegates, thousands more votes for Bernie but Pete is the winner. Makes total sense
Deep Throat was actually the name for Solid Snake's insider on Shadow Moses.
I mean if people are going to be that petty over 1% of total delegates, that's on them. Just weird that the DNC has been calling for the de-emphasis of caucuses along with plenty of other people for years and they get resistance for it by certain people...
Nah. The recanvass is to put the focus on Iowa and their state's process, not any of the candidates. It's just a thorough check, and also to check that the rules Sanders wanted were followed. We know in large part they were because he picked up the satellite caucuses and more first-rounders were counted. Iowa itself has reporting problems, and has had them way before the app or rules changes or anything else.Idk maybe the DNC shouldn't be giving them reason to think that?? They're doing this to themselves. The fault lies with the DNC no matter how you spin this.
It's a worry for every candidate. Bernie was the one being specifically talked about, and wasn't even mentioned by name in the response you quoted.
This is impossible. Iowa fucking up was actually a long game put into motion years ago just to get Bernie.Nah. The recanvass is to put the focus on Iowa and their state's process, not any of the candidates. It's just a thorough check, and also to check that the rules Sanders wanted were followed. We know in large part they were because he picked up the satellite caucuses and more first-rounders were counted. Iowa itself has reporting problems, and has had them way before the app or rules changes or anything else.
Ending my self imposed exile to say I wish the DNC showed this kind of indignant ratfucking in 2016.
lol don't tease me like that
Tom Perez wants a recount.
Maybe because they're not actually trying to ratfuck the results and they just want to double check everything 🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️I don't understand why they're so excited to undermine their own credibility this way. Everyone knew the hand counts had Sanders ahead.
Ok, a four second clip that is technically true if you went by delegate counts at that point isn't really proof but I also only read articles and don't watch 24/7 cable news, which is why I'm not in the loop of the endless garbage that is cable broadcast news.
"Can someone show me one time the media went with the narrative Pete won"
I see... then your choice is made... [*deep, curt chuckle*]
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If you think I'm afraid of you, you've got another thing coming. I've been hunting yetis since before you were born. All those bodies frozen on Everest are from me. Awwwoooo!!!!
That's how you unite the party. What any leader would do.So let me get this right:
Tom Perez wanted to do a recount, the IDP told him to go fuck himself, so he decides to make this feud public to try and pressure the IDP into doing what he wants?
but did a result get reported before then? with everything counted
perez waiting until the very end to call for a recount
Likely due to found instances of inconsistent precinct data.
So let me get this right:
Tom Perez wanted to do a recount, the IDP told him to go fuck himself, so he decides to make this feud public to try and pressure the IDP into doing what he wants?