I'm not sure how exactly any of this hurts him when he's got no connection to Russia and has repeatedly denounced them. Again, I'm not sure what you're getting at with saying Bernie supporters omit Russian interference with his campaign?
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Yup, it is remarkable how far things have come in such a relatively short period of time.
The biggest and most legitimate criticism imo was that of the "Bernie Bro" not in the sense of online trolls but that his campaign support was white male dominated. Now that the campaign has put in some absolutely incredible legwork and outreach we're seeing one of the most multiracial and diverse supporting base for a candidate and it is magnificent to watch.
Its fascinating to watch this video now, how you can see all the different character attacks that failed to land, and how the media kept moving onto the next narrative after each one kept falling flat. Remember when Bernie
I'd say that there's a good chance that regardless of which Democrat is the nominee, Putin will try to help them and purposefully get caught so that Trump can say Democrats are trying to rig the election.
The prisons still get a check from Bloomberg.
The only way he could salvage this is if he had the presence of mind to ensure these prisoners got paid instead of the jailers.
He has the Intel in place to do so now - which is unfortunate and terrifying.
I love how scared moderates are of bernie yet they dont have a way to attack him without making his base more loyal
If Hillary said "Bernie is going to lose because he sucks" today, he would fundraise 2 million dollars in the next 24 hours
If Hillary said "Bernie is going to lose because he sucks" today, he would fundraise 2 million dollars in the next 24 hours
Could I get a link to that podcast?
Thank goodness we now live in a world where Warren is second in national polls and not Bloomberg.
The DNC decided that, in order to beat red Trump, we needed our own blue Trump.
LMAO it's true. And I love how that backfired, just like I said it would. Hillary's criticism of Sanders gained him more support!
Yeah Joy Reid fucking sucks. If anything the 2020 cycle has shown just how awful "liberal" media like MSNBC and CNN actually are. The only people halfway tolerable on MSN are Chris Hayes and Lawrence O'Donnell.
Taking Bernie's ground game out during the general will be really interesting. It has been a while since we have had a real grass roots, person to person campaign. They really are knocking on thousands of doors right now (holding events where people get together to do it, etc). I really hope that in a general this brings out a good new % of voters. Usually we as a country vote about 55%? If we can get that up to 65% we should do well.
Ngl it was kind of touching when klob said "i like bernie" and biden hugged him.
He not only has the people behind him, his own colleagues are fond of him
Believe it or not she had a couple of decent takes yesterday. She actually admitted that Bernie is so popular because people working in the gig economy are pissed off. She also defended Sanders on Twitter when someone equated him to Trump regarding the Russian meddling news - she said Sanders deserves credit because of his statement telling Russia to stay out of our elections.
But I don't want to get ahead of myself. She's still spews 99% trash, but it's interesting to say her have a decent take on Bernie no less.
The way things went last night, I'm pretty sure they actively DON'T trust him to help brown people, and that's why they like him.
Its become very clear that the establishment dems want a return to decorum, rather than moving forwards towards justice.
They were already scraping the bottom of the barrel when Bloomberg brought up that Bernie owns a copy of Fire Emblem Three Houses
They can start to go after him for shit he said 40 years ago, but somehow I doubt people like Biden and Warren are dumb enough to go there. Pete might cause he wasn't even born lmao
This is the "double down" option and I would love for it to come true. A compromise of some sort (Warren?) might be wiser, but this would feel way better.
On this forum I've heard (multiple times) "children are in cages" as a attack on people who simply won't vote for Bloomberg.
I did watch what she said yesterday about how the media underestimated the anger of working Americans, particularly younger ones, and it was a good take, I agree.
That's exactly what I mean. There are certain things that neolibs will tolerate and will not. Children in cages on their own soil is too real. Bomb the shit out of other countries no problem. A return to decorum includes for profit prisons, disproportionate minority arrests and sentencing, drone strikes, bootstraps, etc. It just doesn't affect or embarrass them personally, so they're fine with it.
what the actual shit
Bernie actually plays fucking Fire Emblem? And Bloomberg actually tried to use it as an attack?
Lol no, Bloomberg tried to say Sanders was a hypocrite because he owned three houses. The internet just took that and ran with it.
"Chil'run are in carges!!" is 8-9 times out of 10 used here to concern troll. Only comes up when you don't want to eat the Moderate slop the Democratic Party keeps trying to serve.
Right, to be clear I agree with you (and in regards to the rest of your take here). I think it's really interesting how people assume that Bloomberg will help brown people when he's had no problem with stop and frisk/redlining, using prison labor for his campaign, countless racist commentary. Why the fuck would we trust that he would stick his neck out for brown kids in cages? By all accounts that I can see, that's already a part of his philosophy.
Yeah he's definitely like able and that's in spite of him getting attacked for "yelling" and being "divisive". He's actually been the least divisive candidates. And when he attacks people, he strictly does so on a principled basis. Things like accepting super PAC money and being owned by wealthy donors. But Bernie has been the target of so many bad faith and petty attacks it's mind boggling. Just this week Warren attacked Bernie for having a "narrow vision" and for "yelling". Pete demanded that Sanders admit that there is a "larger problem" with his toxic online supporters when that's just plainly untrue. These people are so desperate and i suspect it will get even more pathetic at the next debate.
"Bernie Sanders Isn't the Left's Trump"
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Positive opinion piece by Paul Krugman
Opinion | Bernie Sanders Isn’t the Left’s Trump (Published 2020)
And this is no time for ego or self-indulgence.
Positive opinion piece by Paul Krugman
A Switch in every house and a waifu for every gamer! - Bernie 2020
Oh lmao. That, I know of, I just didn't parse the joke properly.
I didn't read the article, but the excerpt you posted seemed pretty reasonable? Saying "independents might not vote for Bernie Sanders" isn't such a far out opinion you know. It's probably much easier to convince them to vote for a moderate in that regard. Biden was probably still the best moderate candidate up there, but thanks to all the media hype around the 4 or so candidates vying for the non-Sanders/Warren base, it's split Biden's votes and helped Bernie a lot. Nevada is honestly the 1st really good result Bernie had. Iowa and NH were decent, but what was surprising is that fewer people voted for Bernie in 2020 in NH than in 2016.
So ignoring the independents again.... You better hope that democratic turnout is big, b/c democrats can be pretty bad at turnout at times.
I will say this thread is a pretty ridiculous echo chamber....
It's a meme that's been going around here. Bloomberg attacked Sanders for having three houses to make him seem like a hypocrite. But it was obvious to anyone with 2 brain cells the pot was calling the kettle black.
I agree with you. I think that people are straight up lying when they say that Bloomberg will help brown people. Either they are lying to you for their free macbook, or they are lying to themselves in that they believe Obama ended racism and we just need to go back to the pre-Trump era.
You do know he's winning with independents right? And as the primary continues and his lead rises he will continue to snowball.
Though I do have a way that would divide the Sanders following in two (on Era anyway) that would be highly effective. Ask him his opinion on The Last Jedi. Guarantee now matter what he says this site will break in two.
Of course! Bernie will deliver them personally to every doorstep! Bodypillow included!
Lol ignoring the independents? You realize Bernie gets attacked all the time for not being a real Democrat because he's an independent when he's not running for President? He also polls ahead of trump with independents by 18%.
And your right that turnout has to be yuuuge for democrats to win. And if we have learned anything from 2016 it's that we don't do that by running another tired moderate.
Mix between Golden Deer/Black Eagles. Someone who wants to change the status quo but doesn't work for crazed underground madmen.
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