That's a shame. I really want to hear about it. I hope that embargo lifts soon.
Dave Lee: What makes the PS5 so special?
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That's a shame. I really want to hear about it. I hope that embargo lifts soon.
I doubt the triggers and haptics would work on pc as they do on PS5
Yeah it'll probably require some modding unfortunately. Though people did some great things with the DS4, so there's a chance I guess.
Yes and there is already some third party plates up for sale online.
Yeah, they can just be slided off. The teardown video on the PS channel shows it.
I literally just went to Google News Technology and one of the stories was about a faceplate company rebranding PS5 faceplates. 😄
clever video....... but it's not just the haptics. the speaker in the controller does a lot of the work to signal to your brain what that rumbling should "feel" like. as I co-wrote at Ars:
arstechnica.com
Hands-on with the PS5’s synesthetic DualSense controller
Haptic rumble + synced sounds from controller speakers = a unique gaming experience.
arstechnica.com
Great article, thank you.clever video....... but it's not just the haptics. the speaker in the controller does a lot of the work to signal to your brain what that rumbling should "feel" like. as I co-wrote at Ars:
Hands-on with the PS5’s synesthetic DualSense controller
Haptic rumble + synced sounds from controller speakers = a unique gaming experience.
Watching the triggers fight you back seems "next gen"
I really hope that third party devs can implement this on PC if I plug in my DualSense
I really hope that third party devs can implement this on PC if I plug in my DualSense
clever video....... but it's not just the haptics. the speaker in the controller does a lot of the work to signal to your brain what that rumbling should "feel" like. as I co-wrote at Ars:
Hands-on with the PS5’s synesthetic DualSense controller
Haptic rumble + synced sounds from controller speakers = a unique gaming experience.
Great article! So excited!
One thing If you could answer please! .. Is the experience diminished when using headphones in the controller instead?
something tells me it was unlikely you would be a fan almost no matter what.
It definitely is, I don't think people understand how the haptics will add so much more to being 'in' a game.
The Dualsense is awesome.
On a not-so-much sidenote :
This video is fucking amazing, I don't know much about Dave and his channel, but he does such a good job explaining all the tech insinde the controller and how it feels to the user, and all in under 6 minutes, I am amazed by.
On a not-so-much sidenote :
This video is fucking amazing, I don't know much about Dave and his channel, but he does such a good job explaining all the tech insinde the controller and how it feels to the user, and all in under 6 minutes, I am amazed by.
Deathloop from Arkane is doing something like that where your guns can jam and the trigger will lock up on you until the jam is cleared.
The controller is shaping up to be the most 'next-gen' thing about these systems outside of the SSD.
Dreaming.
No varying resistance in the sticks. I think there might have been some patent applications around that which is where that chatter might have come up way back when. But that didn't make it into this product.
Sony needs to start writing checks to ensure devs make use of the DualSense features. It would be a waste see it only used in first party games. Jim better make sure he's dropping bags of cash.
Seems everyone is raving about the controller and is good to have a differentiator between these systems.
Seems everyone is raving about the controller and is good to have a differentiator between these systems.
Oh ok, thanks for that. I don't know why in my mind it was a thing where Cerny mentioned the various degrees of resistance on sticks when walking on different surfaces like lose on ice and heavy in the mud .
It's all going to come down to build quality. My early DualShock 3 lasted 10 years and thousands of hours, and that's all I want from the new controller.
Can't wait to "see" how it feels to stealth kill a Clicker or catch the Leviathan Axe with the Dual Sense.
Ahh, you've just reminded me, I think you might be thinking of the Wired report. This commentary from the author:
So I think that's just an indirect impact of the haptics on the 'feel' of the traversal through the thumbsticks, on his perception of how things felt, rather than anything actually directly physically changing about the thumbsticks.
Yep, I didn't mention the exclusives cause at the end of the day that's very subjective and MS seems to have increased their portfolio substantially for this gen, but the controller is simply objectively better. It's really a shame there's no demo kiosks this time around.
How much extra development resources do you think this will take for a developer to implement? Do multi-developers try not do too much for one platform over another for feature parity sake? I hope they do incorporate these in their game as it will only add to the game experience.
Yes, this is what I was talking about. Either they were dabbling on this tech before and discarded it or just mistake on interviewers part
Tbh that was one of mark Cerny's key points with the road to ps5 video earlier this year. They (Sony) want to have features in the ps5 that truly differentiate it from the PS4. 'If all we're doing is upgrading the systems power and specs, then that's not a true generational leap'. Roughly quoting. Console wars aside, Sony being a Japanese company is such a selling point for me. They're just so clinical and attentive to all the details over there. It's crazy!
They are saying that the controller haptics are what made it feel sluggish because of the surface, not the sticks directly. It is poorly worded.
The controller seems very cool but my only concern is the lifespan of the triggers.
With my DS4 I had to replace the triggers twice due to the spring/resistance feeling very "loose" and "light", likely due to my hours of playing FFXIV with the triggers and holding them down and using them so much playing that.
With the DS4 it sucked but was a simple enough fix and the shoulder buttons and springs were dirt cheap on eBay (like a set of 10 or 20 or something cost next to nothing) but with the DS5 how strong/long will the motor last for the triggers? What happens if/when it wears out? Seems like a much more complex and expensive thing to fix.
It's the same with the Xbox elite v2. Problems with the face buttons and shoulder buttons but it's much more expensive and harder to get into meaning harder to fix those problems compared to other controllers. Even the Switch with it's terrible drifting is a fairly easy and cheap replacement (not the whole controller, I mean just the stick part).
I REALLY hope they last but it seems more and more controllers recently have bad build quality and just don't last like they used to compared to how much I played games previous gens compared to now with work and shit.
With my DS4 I had to replace the triggers twice due to the spring/resistance feeling very "loose" and "light", likely due to my hours of playing FFXIV with the triggers and holding them down and using them so much playing that.
With the DS4 it sucked but was a simple enough fix and the shoulder buttons and springs were dirt cheap on eBay (like a set of 10 or 20 or something cost next to nothing) but with the DS5 how strong/long will the motor last for the triggers? What happens if/when it wears out? Seems like a much more complex and expensive thing to fix.
It's the same with the Xbox elite v2. Problems with the face buttons and shoulder buttons but it's much more expensive and harder to get into meaning harder to fix those problems compared to other controllers. Even the Switch with it's terrible drifting is a fairly easy and cheap replacement (not the whole controller, I mean just the stick part).
I REALLY hope they last but it seems more and more controllers recently have bad build quality and just don't last like they used to compared to how much I played games previous gens compared to now with work and shit.
From a dev at Activision
If you listen to the Giant Bombcast this week Jeff misspoke and talked about the adaptive tension on the sticks when he meant to say triggers. Other than that, I haven't heard that said anywhere else.
I have no desire to fight with the controller, regardless of how 'difficult' what I'm doing in the game is. Maybe I'm just worried for my old man hands, but it seems like something that would be cool once in a while, but ultimately a gimmick that gets immediately turned off in the options menu.
Trying to imagine this controller with God of War Ragnarok and the incredible sound design...
recalling the axe is gonna be so fucking good