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Cyberpunk Refund Mega Thread : Cross-Platform; Cross-Store [See Threadmarks for Store Details]
- Thread starter Loudninja
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You know that's not what's going to happen, sadly.
I'm glad that the CDProjekt is finally getting what they deserve with their shitty policies and anti-trans bullshit but man, I feel really bad for the actual devs.
Yeah sure, more likely Cyberpunk coders getting a case of Red Bull for xmas and a desk-sized sleeping bag.
Didn't help it actually turn profit, did it. It got panned and clowned on about as hard as CP2077, and it fucked the reputation of the studio making it as well but in addition it was a commercial failure. At least CDPR can cry into its millions.
CDPR is not the same company after this, there's most liekly going to be shit tons of resignations and restructuring, so sure, they sold a bazillion copies, but as a studio they have completely and utterly failed.
I listened to some of that investor call and woof...just the brazen incompetence of upper management going ahead with the base console releases.
So does CDPR management have a board of directors they have to answer to? I can't imagine this whole situation not having more than a few heads rolling. Company clearly needs a major shakeup in upper management.
So does CDPR management have a board of directors they have to answer to? I can't imagine this whole situation not having more than a few heads rolling. Company clearly needs a major shakeup in upper management.
To be fair, my experience of ACV was pretty glitchy that I couldn't complete one of the final missions and a NPC got frozen. That said, it was moderately fun, and it sounds small time, compared to whatever management led to Cyberpunk ending up like this.
I don't remotely understand the Polish business environment so forgive my ignorance but: if this does not, in fact, kill CDPR (or force it to be absorbed into Microsoft etc) how do the CEO, senior leadership etc survive this fiasco? No way they're not replaced, right? Would investors not demand it?
Totally agree with all of this and the other pertinent point is that it was all fabrication. They are not big company gaming friends. They are as beholden to shareholders as any other big company.
I hope this proves to the gaming public that you can't get personally invested in a any company. They are not on your side. You don't need to defend them, especially from cultural criticism of their games.
As someone who learned his lesson the hard way via Skyrim on PS3 and stopped buying games day one ever since (except for Naughty Dog) , I've been feeling vindicated for the last few weeks. But today, reading this news on the BBC and Guardian, I'm blown away.
Let's face it though, gamers will never learn their lesson, they will reward companies for shitting in their face, they can't help it. Despite all the bad news I have no doubt the game was still selling ok. So it takes Sony itself to actually do the right thing and step in to prevent further sales.
And yeah, Todd better gulp. I'm glad his janky shit is off the PS anyway.
Let's face it though, gamers will never learn their lesson, they will reward companies for shitting in their face, they can't help it. Despite all the bad news I have no doubt the game was still selling ok. So it takes Sony itself to actually do the right thing and step in to prevent further sales.
And yeah, Todd better gulp. I'm glad his janky shit is off the PS anyway.
Why would this kill them to the point of Microsoft buying them? They already reported the game covered it's Dev costs already, and while I'm sure those numbers are fudged a bit, I can't see how the number of refunds on a single platform will go that far.
I'm ready to be wrong on this but I can't see the refund rate going over 30%, which I think is a high rate even. I assume most just won't bother.
Absolutely, It was at the time and in retrospect even more so. Bravo Rockstar
They still sold 4 million copies on PC on day 1. They also had recent success with Witcher 3 because of the Switch port and the Netflix series. GoG also exists and is still popular for DRM free games. They will survive this and hopefully a lesson was learned.
Why would this kill them, or "force" them to be absorbed by Microsoft? What a weird thought.
Hah, let this be a lesson to greedy companies and shareholders. Don't shit out unfinished products for quick gains. It might work sometimes, but this time it backfired bigtime. Fools. They should have focused on and shipped the PC version this holiday and then sliced and cut the console versions until they ran acceptably - and then release them. Launching these 15 fps, crashing abominations is laughable and people rightfully should not stand for such a shoddy and blatantly unfinished product.
I do love the PC version though, 30 hours in and everything's been peachy. Doing quests, taking in the sights and building my character continues to be a blast.
I have no sympathy for CDPR when it comes to the mess of their own making they're currently in. Greed is always shitty.
I do love the PC version though, 30 hours in and everything's been peachy. Doing quests, taking in the sights and building my character continues to be a blast.
I have no sympathy for CDPR when it comes to the mess of their own making they're currently in. Greed is always shitty.
it's a corporation
if they learned any lessons from this it would be the wrong ones
It rather depends on how big a share of the company the original founders and current management still control. If it's significant / majority control, then they're unlikely to voluntarily stand down. If they're minority shareholders, then the odds are pretty good the board will vote them out.
Sorry, I guess I just assumed if the company got into sufficiently dire straits there'd be some sort of acquisition. It is a massive leap, tbf.
This is what happens when you rush out a hyped game and bait gamers with a piece of junk.
Share price down another 15% and reputation in tatters.
Developers must be sad to read the news and will no doubt be further stressed and under pressure.
This will be an industry
lesson to be learnt.
Edit: correct typo
Share price down another 15% and reputation in tatters.
Developers must be sad to read the news and will no doubt be further stressed and under pressure.
This will be an industry
lesson to be learnt.
Edit: correct typo
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Unfortunate advertising alert. The irony of the "Eurogamer recommended" logo and the XBOX adverts on the same page as the headline.
To get in first: I highly rate Eurogamer (and have no beef with Microsoft), but can't ignore the irony of it all.
To get in first: I highly rate Eurogamer (and have no beef with Microsoft), but can't ignore the irony of it all.
That sounds awful. I had loads of technical issues with Assassin Creed Valhalla, it would crash about every 5 a half hours for me, and that was annoying enough because I kept thinking it would crash just as I cleared a fort or defeated a boss, (a bit of anxiety lol) Every half an hour, whoa. I don't know how you could concetrate on the gameplay, and enjoy it with that consistency of crashes.
Why would MS spend billions of dollars to buy a company that make one game every 5-6 years and who own a distribution platform that MS doesn't need.
Uh oh
It's currently down 18%
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I find this constant connection of Slavs with potatoes really distasteful. Shame on you.
Just kidding, but it's "tatters."
I'm not versed in the Cyberpunk series, but I doubt it's part of the source material based on what Mike Pondsmith has said in interviews.
CDPR's marketing department, social media partners, and some of the studio itself are responsible for any transphobic material and harmful behaviour. What's worse is their hostile reaction to the trans community, because if they actually were sensible and gave a damn they could have resolved these issues.
Yeah, they're essentially as exploitative as the corporations their game "critiques". They just want to titillate people with substandard porn.
It's a shame really. I was looking forward to this game and CDPR just steadily killed any enthusiasm I had for it. Hopefully some other publisher can do justice to the cyberpunk genre in the future. Maybe Warner should make use of the Blade Runner ip.
Unfortunate advertising alert. The irony of the "Eurogamer recommended" logo and the XBOX adverts on the same page as the headline.
To get in first: I highly rate Eurogamer (and have no beef with Microsoft), but can't ignore the irony of it all.
Press were duped like the consumers by being shoehorned into the PC version for review. I do think a lot of them should still make an edit to the reviews with a disclaimer explaining the state the base console versions are currently in.
Board of Directors - CD PROJEKT
The Board of CD PROJEKT S.A. operates in accordance with the Polish Corporate Law, the Company Articles of Associations and the Board Regulations. The prerogatives of the Board include representing the Company in all matters not
www.cdprojekt.com
I wouldn't want to do the job, and says what deserves to be sold, but I think they should have a bit more quality control, than "it doesn't destroy ther consoles."
I get that. But I feel if the game was really in tatters, MS and Sony should never have allowed it to release until it was up to scratch. But that Christmas sales % was just too strong....
Is gog.com worse than Windows Store?
If no, the purchase is probably worth it.
Just woke up, and...
Damn.
Can this get any worse beyond the game being delisted? Stock's been tanking too.
At this rate, we might find out that CDPR been punching Polish grannies for their team building exercises.
I guess it's some retribution for the problematic elements in and around the game. Fuck calling yourself Punk when you court actual bigots.
Damn.
Can this get any worse beyond the game being delisted? Stock's been tanking too.
At this rate, we might find out that CDPR been punching Polish grannies for their team building exercises.
I guess it's some retribution for the problematic elements in and around the game. Fuck calling yourself Punk when you court actual bigots.
They will fully allowed themselves to be duped. They should have known something was up when they weren't given console versions to review.
Also, ignoring the obvious issues there are fundinental things wrong with the game design that don't warrant some of the scores... The pedestrian ai, the wanted system and other gameplay issues.
The Xbox Twitter account hasn't even acknowledged the game at all in the past few days. Kind of doubt they do it now due to the giant elephant in the room.
Unfortuanately I don't think is will be the first nor will it be the last. Skyrim PS3, Asssassin Creed Unity, to name a couple, this sounds worse tbf with crashes.
They don't validate for "runs great" or "doesn't crash" they validate for "does not brick your expensive toy." You know, the shit they could maybe get sued for.
Nothing could be funnier or better socmed right now than Sony doing this then shitting out that laissez-faire, 'here are the PS4 best-sellers, I guess' tweet with Cyberpunk in the number one spot.
