I second this.I don't know who to ask, so I'm asking out in the open. Hopefully that's not against the rules:
Can the mods just make a separate thread for the "language" discussion? If people wanna have that debate, cool. I can't stop them. But at least take it somewhere else so the rest of us can talk about the actual game. Thank you.
Again, if me asking openly like this is against the rules, my apologies.
Since when has belittling woman ever been about logic or common sense?
Three times is quite a lot considering that the game takes place in LA and NOT the UK or Australia.Just finished watching the demo, skimming through the thread, and I see a discussion about the c-word... did they really say it that much? Honestly, I noticed it a total of 'just' three times ('a c**t in a convent', the guy talking about the corpo lady, and the Maelstrom gangoon using the plural).
You fuckin' kiddin' me with this shit? Who the hell wants Sesame Street for adults in this fuckin' thread? Goddammit, man...Saw a tweet recently that said people seem to want art that's basically just Sesame Street for adults and yeah, that person was not wrong.
It's the same allegory - actually make a better arguement or stop with your disengenious, well, I'd say "points" but you didn't actually make one.Stop with this comparison it doesn't make sense and only weakens your argument.
Glad I'm not the only one. The number of NPCs is impressive but other than that the overall way the game looks is good. Not out of this world. Definitely doable on current consoles from the looks of it.Journalists were screaming next gen by this demo,so I expected next gen level of shit,but nothing is really out of this world.
Just have the discussion, nobody is forcing you to agree with or respond to any posts you dislike or disagree with. Plenty f people have only commented on other aspects of the video.Can the mods just make a separate thread for the "language" discussion? If people wanna have that debate, cool. I can't stop them. But at least take it somewhere else so the rest of us can talk about the actual game. Thank you.
Yeah, it's kind of derailing the thread. I'm suprised it hasn't been done already.I don't know who to ask, so I'm asking out in the open. Hopefully that's not against the rules:
Can the mods just make a separate thread for the "language" discussion? If people wanna have that debate, cool. I can't stop them. But at least take it somewhere else so the rest of us can talk about the actual game. Thank you.
Again, if me asking openly like this is against the rules, my apologies.
Three times is quite a lot considering that the game takes place in LA and NOT the UK or Australia.
You'd think they'd put in a bit more effort towards representing the fact that the game takes place in America...
You fuckin' kiddin' me with this shit? Who the hell wants Sesame Street for adults in this fuckin' thread? Goddammit, man...
Nah that person was pretty wrong. They were attacking a strawman.Saw a tweet recently that said people seem to want art that's basically just Sesame Street for adults and yeah, that person was not wrong.
Imagine that you're a woman, that's had a terrible day at work. Your boss, which sees himself as a womanizer, consistently says some gross sexist stuff when he thinks he's not being heard. And, you know, sometimes he's being heard. But he's been there for 35 years, so you have to close your eyes, sigh and keep doing your best at work because bills and crap.
Then you get back home, tired as hell and wanting to play some game as a form of escapism. You boot up Cyberpunk 2077, a nice looking title which stars a self-insert power fantasy character with whom you can wreck shit and everything. And then, you meet this dude, who calls you X or Y. And, you know, it normally wouldn't be a problem. But today, since you've had a bad day, it does.
Now I question. Does this character being sexist makes any sense? Is it an important part of its character? Is it necessary? If the answer is yes, then go ahead. But most of the time it isn't, and it's just something that's used to add some "flavor" to the character. If it had never existed, you'd never have noticed. So, if it's not necessary, it's not important and it can make people feel like crap, why wouldn't you just change it for something that's not gender-based?
I mean, TW3 toned down how much Geralt is hated and distrusted for being a mutant A LOT compared to the books. If they toned down the amount of irrational hate that people feel towards him in order to make that title more palatable, I don't see why they couldn't do the same here.
You literally did not read my posts if you didn't get my argument.
Once again, I'm sick and tired of gendered insults like "pussy" and "cunt" being normalized, I'm sick of my entire gender being constantly insulted and read as "weaklings" and "cowards", and I don't care about any of the other harsh language being used in the game within this video, so it's not just a matter of fuckin' "pearl clutching" or whatever other stupid straw man you want to put up.
Ignore list for you.It's the same allegory - actually make a better arguement or stop with your disengenious, well, I'd say "points" but you didn't actually make one.
I mean yes girls' blouse does mean that, and does imply that. And yet those phrases are completely different.So does being a girls' blouse - it also means the being a woman is seen as cowardly in the UK too.
The word here has nothing to do with degrading women. As Lashley said above, the word bitch (female dog - aka logic) is used to degrade women.Since when has belittling woman ever been about logic or common sense?
First learn to make an argument without a strawman fallacy.
Wow you dont know when to quit do you? You're not going to win this argument. Devs will continue to show games early and change shit. When downgrades or outright lies are caught, and they are caught, people will rightly complain (see: Mighty No 9, No Mans Sky).
You're making mountains over molehills.
I'm highly skeptical they can maintain that quality of NPC interaction across the whole game. The high quality animation and body language applied to each character interacting with you and other NPCs in a dynamic context with the depth of choices promised
Expecting a Watch Dogs scenario where all the bits and pieces are there just of a lower quality than this reveal
I liked it. Def, looking forward to it.
My only complain is the Spanglish the big guy was speaking.
I get he speaks Spanish, but normally you don't need to mix both languages at the same time when you speak.
Of course unless you are forcing it for some reason.
I have always found it weird. It's better just to choose one and stick with that one.
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What? Aren't they representing that fact quite well? It's supposed to be a harsh insult and use of the word. In the UK and Australia, it's not used quite derogatorily.Three times is quite a lot considering that the game takes place in LA and NOT the UK or Australia.
You'd think they'd put in a bit more effort towards representing the fact that the game takes place in America...
You fuckin' kiddin' me with this shit? Who the hell wants Sesame Street for adults in this fuckin' thread? Goddammit, man...
This is basically what people are saying. Like, the witcher was hilariously liberal with it's use of the word "arse" everywhere, but the writing quality and delivery were a lot better than what's in this demo. I mean....Regarding the language stuff, I dont have a problem with the words you guys are discussing.
I do have a problem with the writing though. I would never ever said this was something out of the creators of TW3.
The side character dude is an walking stereotype.
This is legit GTA try hard kind of writing and I am not sure I like it.
Denny old chap, they only added HDR into Witcher 3 years after the fact.I have formally requested CDPR delay this game to 2020 in order for Ray Tracing capabilities on GPUs to have advanced enough for me to be satisfied with graphics.
Sucks for you guys who would settle for less but can play RDR2 to ride you over.
I'm sick of that Hispanic seterotype. Not all of us Hispanic/Mexicans speak like that. It's just nitpicking though. Not really a big deal.Regarding the language stuff, I dont have a problem with the words you guys are discussing.
I do have a problem with the writing though. I would never ever said this was something out of the creators of TW3.
The side character dude is an walking stereotype.
The entire entertainment industry is built around the US.You'd think they'd put in a bit more effort towards representing the fact that the game takes place in America...
It looks very good but it was obviously a case of 'I've seen something no one else has so am going to exaggerate the hell out of it' for those previews.
Some of them said the game was the second coming...
It looks very good.
You all could have used these posts to talk about the game you know. It's not like anyone is stopping you.
HAH. You're SO good at listening to women. You definitely proved that.
Yeah except it's a fucking VIDEO GAME. I do not want nor expect a 1:1 representation of reality in my video games, especially when I literally just want to relax and have fun and maybe, y'know, escape from every day problems in a VIDEO GAME.CDPR has earned the right to use whatever language they want. They are known for making quality games with detailed, realized worlds. Just like the real world, not everything is going to swing your way just for you. Some things may shock or offend you. I do not believe for one second that this game is coming from a source that hates women. So I don't think it's worth complaining about.
He's calling the two characters trying to kill him cunts out of an act of anger. It's life or death. This isn't someone serving you at a kiosk who says "hurry up you cunt" when you drop your wallet whilst trying to get your change out because they are agitated the queue is really long.
What's with all of these elaborate comparisons to real life combined with stripping all the context out of the scene?
Shit we're running out of numbers here