Well it is the future wasn't a lot of that actually on V retina?They need to have an option to toggle off all the info junk on the screen:
Item and character outlines
Damage indictor
I want a completely clear image for MAXIMUM IMMERSION
Well it is the future wasn't a lot of that actually on V retina?They need to have an option to toggle off all the info junk on the screen:
Item and character outlines
Damage indictor
I want a completely clear image for MAXIMUM IMMERSION
I think most would agree that street-slang and gutter-talk absolutely have a place in appropriate settings. I doubt you'd find anyone suggesting the Cyberpunk cast should be speaking in Shakespearean early/modern English.
My problem was that the dialogue just didn't feel like it was written very well. It felt like it was trying to hard to be edgy. Like an elementary kid just learning to swear, making every third word they speak a vulgarity. The flow doesn't feel natural or authentic at all. It feels forced.
Basically this, yeah. I still hate the writing, but use of slurs shouldn't be disallowed given these people are meant to be actual dregs of society. The fact they're using offensive language is kind of... fitting, isn't it.Really now? I'm comparing two types of media, tell me why are movies, books, comics, graphic novels allowed and not video games.
A) They did, but they shouldn't be forbidden from using any language they see fit to convey their films same as CDPR with their video games.
B) It's a setting filled with degenerates and a society that has collapsed, yes it stands to reason such language would be fairly common like when I walk into a bar.
I couldn't stop laughing when the NPC voice line kept playing "Jesus christ my legs" even after his head got shot off. Quintessential video game idiosyncrasy right there.
Well it is the future wasn't a lot of that actually on V retina?
And it's still open to criticism. Frankly, the dialogue is a lot weaker than the Witcher 3Some futuristic setting can kind of be portrayed however someone wants.
which could probably win a world record for the amount of times the word "arse" is used.
No one said they're forbidden.A) They did, but they shouldn't be forbidden from using any language they see fit to convey their films same as CDPR with their video games.
And they could still be more creative without veering into "ow the edge" territory.B) It's a setting filled with degenerates and a society that has collapsed, yes it stands to reason such language would be fairly common like when I walk into a bar.
Shit Piss Fuck Cunt Cocksucker Motherfucker Tits
*deep gasp* baaaaaaad words
Y'all got no problem turning a dude to mist but this is the debate of the thread? No wonder CDPR didn't want to show anything.
The main character is named V.What's the name of the main character tho? Vi Jaina? is that her name or... nickname? I watched the whole stream on my cellphone, need to get at home to watch it in its full glory. The name sounded dumb to me.
The writing is indeed awful, but its not because of the inclusion of the c-word. It's much more about how its used, imo.And it's still open to criticism. Frankly, the dialogue is a lot weaker than the Witcher 3
No one said they're forbidden.
And they could still be more creative without veering into "ow the edge" territory.
The protagonist's name is V. Jaina is Spanish slang for "girl."What's the name of the main character tho? Vi Jaina? is that her name or... nickname? I watched the whole stream on my cellphone, need to get at home to watch it in its full glory. The name sounded dumb to me.
Well, Watch_Dogs 2 was certainly an improvement over 1 in that area. There were some crowded places.That was an unreal demo. This scene was especially jaw-dropping considering what other open-world games tried to do with human density in a city...cough, cough..Watch Dogs...cough, cough
True. But in this game it kinda works, i think.Looks great but SO MUCH CHROMATIC ABERRATION, first thing im gonna do is turn that shit off!
What's the name of the main character tho? Vi Jaina? is that her name or... nickname? I watched the whole stream on my cellphone, need to get at home to watch it in its full glory. The name sounded dumb to me.
V. So can be a male or female.What's the name of the main character tho? Vi Jaina? is that her name or... nickname? I watched the whole stream on my cellphone, need to get at home to watch it in its full glory. The name sounded dumb to me.
But when it's said by your protagonist's partner and your protagonist doesn't react to it (or get the option to react to it), the game also kind of implies that it's not a big deal and there's nothing wrong with it. They could've also opted to have their futuristic society be past homophobia, racism and sexism and still shown all the worst sides of humanity. People can just all treat each other like shit equally :p. As BossAttack said, if these terms actually refer to narrative themes and issues like homophobia and sexism are addressed in the story, it's fine. But if they aren't and they're just throwing these terms in as random standard swear words without any kind of reflection, I'll view that very critically.It's supposed to be an ugly and terrible world through and through.
If someone thinks calling someone a pussy is okay because a THUG in a video-game says it, well then he/she is no better than the thug
It shows that despite the advancement in tech humans are still as awful as ever, we STILL haven't grown up
You could also say it's a reflection of our current society, the worst parts made obvious.
So when you hear "pussy" in the game, you have the same gross reaction you would as in real life, that's the point
Like "I'm cleaner than a cunt at a convent." That is hella ow-the-edge.The writing is indeed awful, but its not because of the inclusion of the c-word. It's much more about how its used, imo.
This is such a disingenuous read on what people are saying.Shit Piss Fuck Cunt Cocksucker Motherfucker Tits
*deep gasp* baaaaaaad words
Y'all got no problem turning a dude to mist but this is the debate of the thread? No wonder CDPR didn't want to show anything.
The dialogue flowed fine besides some of Jackie's lines and I really don't see the issue with the voice acting in this demo.I think most would agree that street-slang and gutter-talk absolutely have a place in appropriate settings. I doubt you'd find anyone suggesting the Cyberpunk cast should be speaking in Shakespearean early/modern English. People (including myself) adore Tarantino movies and those push the limits of vulgarity.
My problem was that the dialogue just didn't feel like it was written very well. It felt like it was trying to hard to be edgy. Like an elementary kid just learning to swear, making every third word they speak a vulgarity. The flow doesn't feel natural or authentic at all. It feels forced.
It's incredibly disheartening coming off of Witcher 3, which basically wrote the book on nuanced and sophisticated character interplay. Perhaps only rivaled my Naughty Dog or Rockstar's impeccable work in script and voice acting.
I'm still on board with 2077. And I fully understand that it's a work in progress. I'll be there Day One.
It's just that about the very last thing I expected to walk away with feeling underwhelmed was the quality of writing and voice acting. It's almost like seeing a mainline Mario debut video where the jumping mechanics looks like crap.
hype ded :(
its just Deus ex with GTA V fps driving.
Its such an FPS...boo.
As I've already mentioned, I don't give a fuck about there being swear words, it's about the particular swear words being used:
agree i ampretty underwelmed after how good ghosts of tshushima, last of us 2 and spider man all look, graphicswise. not to mention it doesn't really look all that much better than horzion or god of war and nowhere near as good as detroit.
underwelmed like many others in this thread with what is essentilly a watch_dogs 2 clone with rpg elements...
What's the name of the main character tho? Vi Jaina? is that her name or... nickname? I watched the whole stream on my cellphone, need to get at home to watch it in its full glory. The name sounded dumb to me.
It's not about the terms being "glorified" or "legitimized", it's about those slurs in particular feeling especially targeted at certain types of people - people who deal with more shit than the majority on account of, y'know, being the ethnic or gender or sexual minority.Having mercenaries who are killing people for money with no apparent reservations using pejoratives like pussy and cocksucker is not, like, an endorsement of using those terms. You're not exactly playing as a great person.
I generally try to avoid language like that in my day-to-day, so it's not like I disagree that using those terms those ways is bad. But to me it honestly would feel weirdly sterilized if every bad person in the game meticulously used non-bigoted insults. It doesn't feel like speaking that way is being glorified or legitimized. To me, anyway.
Hopefully more people buy this than bought Deus Ex: MD, Dishonored 2, and Prey!
Looks great but SO MUCH CHROMATIC ABERRATION, first thing im gonna do is turn that shit off!
You're kidding me, right? Got any more false equivalencies to throw around?
For starters, don't use "pussy", use something generic like "weak shit" instead. Don't use "cunt" (especially if the game is supposed to take place in LA and not in Australia or the UK), use literally anything else that isn't a gendered slur.
And fictional universes use made-up slurs all the fuckin' time. This isn't a new problem specific to Cyberpunk 2077. Don't make excuses for them.
Like "I'm cleaner than a cunt at a convent." That is hella ow-the-edge.
underwelmed like many others in this thread with what is essentilly a watch_dogs 2 clone with rpg elements...
You could have not taken the corrupted chip and just bought the robot without resorting to violence.
But yeah, I don't think people should expect that much depth from the conversation system when it comes to RPG features, it's probably based more on actions than through requirements, it looks deeper than Witcher 3 in some ways but less than New Vegas.
Witcher 3 had a super basic skill check system so I assume they got rid of that since it was basically a waste.
I mean I get if you don't like it, but that's literally the point.Like "I'm cleaner than a cunt at a convent." That is hella ow-the-edge.