Cyberpunk 2077 Dev Talks Microtransactions: "the goal is to get people to spend extra money and be happy about it." (MTX - MP; Expansions - SP)
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Crossing Eden made serious mistake and assumed people on ERA read OPs instead of just hot posting based on title, so now people assume SP is getting MTX :D
Cyberpunk 2077 will get at least same amount of DLC and expansions as TW3, hinted to get even more big story expansion than TW3. Reveal for these plans is "soon" (I guess next Wire show).
CyberPunk 2077 MP isn't expected before 2022 and will be its own thing. They haven't yet decided on if it will be standalone product or add-on to the core game.
Cyberpunk 2077 will get at least same amount of DLC and expansions as TW3, hinted to get even more big story expansion than TW3. Reveal for these plans is "soon" (I guess next Wire show).
CyberPunk 2077 MP isn't expected before 2022 and will be its own thing. They haven't yet decided on if it will be standalone product or add-on to the core game.
This is the same company patching Witcher 3 to next gen instead of making you buy a remaster, they release all their games on PC without DRM (on GOG), there's no shenanigans with cross gen versions with an extra cost for next gen CP2077, they have a history of great games with great story DLC/expansions (far too rare nowadays), and these MTX aren't for single player. So yeah I kinda will give CDPR the benefit of the doubt to do multiplayer MTX tastefully until I see it.
That's gonna be a big "no shit" from me. They are a publicly traded company who are trying to maximize their profits. Their products so far have been pretty well liked and widely considered to give you really good value for what they cost, but there's no way CDPR would completely ignore what makes other publishers so much money as they continue to grow.
You can like their games and practices (free next gen upgrades, beefy expansions, etc.) but they're still not your friends. Don't get emotionally attached to the company or develop weird ideas about how they're "pro-consumer" in a way that makes them fundamentally different from other publishers.
You can like their games and practices (free next gen upgrades, beefy expansions, etc.) but they're still not your friends. Don't get emotionally attached to the company or develop weird ideas about how they're "pro-consumer" in a way that makes them fundamentally different from other publishers.
Are people here really so, so... ahem.. inattentive?
Cyberpunk 2077 is a massive singleplaye RPG releasing this year, which isn't going to have any sort of MTX
Cyberpunk MP is a different project and it's going to be released in 2022 - at earliest .. if it's going to be just a free addon to CP2077, if it's going to be F2P, if it's going to cost around 20,30, 50, 60 dollars? Who knows? There's almost nothing that we know about his project at this time
I got my answer and confirmation. Internet overreacting as usual.
This. CDPR has decided to market themselves as "the good guys", which for the most part they seem to have lived up to. But it's a precarious line to walk as a publicly traded company, their investors are inevitably going to demand they maximize profit. The pushback from CDPR doing stuff like micro transactions will be much more severe because they've gone so hard with their "good guy" image that stuff like this can be seen as a betrayal.
Lol this feels like they're using a loophole. "Technically we didn't break our promise, it's not Cyberpunk 2077 that has monetization its Cyberpunk MP!"
Yup and well priced game and expansion. One of the best games this gen.
Well that didn't take long lol
Is it a loophole when they internally treat these as two fully independent projects?
Blamming the news when the info came directly from the company president is petty as hell lol, I don't think CB2077 single-player will have any MTX, but if he(CD's president) didn't specified if he was talking about the SP or MP mode(or game?), what the hell was people supposed to do?
I even think that the article was wrong in making the assumption that he was talking(only) about the MP mode.
I even think that the article was wrong in making the assumption that he was talking(only) about the MP mode.
Sounds like a good plan. Free Singelplayer DLC and MTX for the Multiplayer that comes later.
But im not surprised that some people already have their gAmEr sEnSe tingling just because they hear the word microtransaction and stop any logical thinking like true Gamers with a capital G.
But im not surprised that some people already have their gAmEr sEnSe tingling just because they hear the word microtransaction and stop any logical thinking like true Gamers with a capital G.
Loophole? They always announced CP2077 as a standalone and SP game only and the MP was a separate product since the beginning.
There is no loophole, only people that can't tell the difference between two separate games.
Witcher 3 and DLC (singleplayer, no MTX) + Gwent (free to play, MTX).
CP2077 and DLC (singleplayer, no MTX) + CP multiplayer (not sure if F2P or CP2077 required, MTX).
I think this is the plan.
CP2077 and DLC (singleplayer, no MTX) + CP multiplayer (not sure if F2P or CP2077 required, MTX).
I think this is the plan.
Some of you lol... just ridiculous takes. There's a ton of legit criticisms to aim at CDPR, this shit ain't it.
Here is how question was asked and answered, from official transcript of investor call. Question was specifically about MP.
Source: https://www.cdprojekt.com/en/wp-content/uploads-en/2020/09/conf-call-h1-2020_en.pdf
Who's asking to get Cyberpunk 2077 for free? Could you please enlighten me?
I can imagine their approach to the Cyberpunk franchise to be somewhat comparable to what they did with the Witcher.
SP game release. Some game updates with fixes/QoL features. Paid SP DLCs. At the same time prepare early access for MP offshoot. Maybe release it standalone at a low price or f2p.
Can't see a modern, long lasting MP game with a healthy user base being tacked on to a AAA SP game at the usual price point in a post Fortnite/Apex/Modern Warfare era.
SP game release. Some game updates with fixes/QoL features. Paid SP DLCs. At the same time prepare early access for MP offshoot. Maybe release it standalone at a low price or f2p.
Can't see a modern, long lasting MP game with a healthy user base being tacked on to a AAA SP game at the usual price point in a post Fortnite/Apex/Modern Warfare era.
Oof, I stand corrected then, I still don't think it was a clickbait tho.
That headline and short synopsis is pretty HC clickbait as either don't even mention it being about MP component that comes later. To me clear intention is to give impression that MTX is coming to the SP component, especially as MP component is still so little known about by larger gamer sphere.
There clearly has been some damage from these kind bait as official account and CM's are out in force now stomping on this.
So they were making fun of EA and other publishers with MTXs in their Multiplayer games, acting that they are above that..... so they can announce that their own MP game will also have MTXs just a year later.
But I guess they are saying that "our MTXs will make people happy to pay for them" and that "we'll be consumer friendly and non-aggressive, just trust us" so all is forgiven.
I'm sure if you ask EA's president about their MTXs he'd say that they are really predatory and not worth the value at all. We all know that the presidents of these huge companies are always looking out for us and they never ever lie about anything. Especially not when it comes to the monetization of their games.
You clearly don't know anything about EA's microtransactions when you compare cosmetics to what EA does. They have games which are basically gambling machines like FIFA or their microtransactions block some crucial content like characters etc.
If it's not in the title, it might as well not exist to some people.
That is exactly why I compared it to EA. Cause if you go ask EA about their MTXs and the crap they pull, they are gonna make it sound like the players are thrilled to pay them more money in their answer.
So yea, hanging on the words of the president of a huge company about how "they are gonna be non-aggressive" with their monetization, is pretty naive.
This especially rings hollow after they were making fun of MTXs in multiplayer games just last year.
That's not what you wrote. What I got from your post is that you basically put an equation between CDPR's way of doing MTX and EA's - the difference is that CDPR has better PR. We don't know how it will turn out but I believe this will be done in the most consumer friendly way it's possible.
You are right, CDPR has better PR so they can sell this bs better, but what I was trying to say in my original post, is that every PR statement from these companies will try to make their monetization look as appealing and consumer friendly as possible. So people shouldn't be so ready to believe whatever they say in their PR.
Again, just this past year these guys were making fun of MP games having MTXs while trying to make themselves look like they are above that.
Bluntly? Yes. They did all those tweets about "leaving greed to others" and mocking the very idea of microtransactions, they were idiots if they thought this wouldn't cause pushback. I don't mind MP having microtransactions, I've never bought any and I won't now, but this is going to piss people off. It's not what people expect from "Good Guy CDPR, Saviors of Gaming". W3 is the GOAT of this gen for me and I'm excited for Cyberpunk, so I'm not one of those people who have been eagerly waiting for them to fuck up so I could pounce on them. Gwent already had MT as well so it's not a first from them either. Just saying that stuff like this conflicts with their PR image and will cause pushback.
Just to be clear: I don't expect their MT to be anywhere near as bad/invasive as EA or Activision. But having any MTs will be viewed as a "betrayal" by some corners. Not me though, CDPR is simply a dev who makes games I enjoy, nothing more.
Yeah lol. I like CDPR, but lol. The best way for them to sell it is as a separate game. CP2077 has no mtx but MP - a separate game - does.
This thread is about MP MTX. Put my comment towards that and you'll understand what I'm talking about.
"The goal is to get people to spend money and be happy about it!"
Well shit, I appreciate the honesty.
Well shit, I appreciate the honesty.
Their Twitter game has been bad in the past few months. They try too hard.
Still, they are right when they say they've been treating me as a costumer with resprect. More so than most of the other big developers or publishers in the game. Till that changes they have some credit in my books.
Still, they are right when they say they've been treating me as a costumer with resprect. More so than most of the other big developers or publishers in the game. Till that changes they have some credit in my books.
Is Night City the expected location of Cyberpunk Multiplayer and are they reusing assets and systems? Perhaps there are new locations, but I can't imagine them not leveraging what was already built.
If so, it sounds like their GTA Online to their GTA 5.
I don't doubt they will have fair microtransaction, but all of that "no mtx here guis" continues to feel like they are trying too hard to win wholesome awards.
If so, it sounds like their GTA Online to their GTA 5.
I don't doubt they will have fair microtransaction, but all of that "no mtx here guis" continues to feel like they are trying too hard to win wholesome awards.
Yes, your post certainly did age well. /s
I'm sure anyone can find issues if they dig deep enough. The single player game will be huge, if it's not worth your $60 then don't buy it, simple as that. The online is a seperate project, this is not an online game with single player campaign added on.