As long as his content is fun and doesn't include his oppinions on troubled matters I don't care what he believes in.
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"Channel Not So Awesome" - Ex-contributors of Channel Awesome detail a history of abuse (READ OP)
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As long as his content is fun and doesn't include his oppinions on troubled matters I don't care what he believes in.
The only reason I don't see it happening is if people think it's too derivative of the NC. Like, if you're going to re-brand, why make it almost a 1:1 replica? Why not change things?
I think the best example of this is Phelan in To Boldly Flee, because half the time he's doing Doug's style and the other half he's in his default style of not giving a shit. And it's hilariously clear which is which.
In one image in the background, he looks completely dead inside.
Man JewWario...
Not that I was personally attached to him but I can't imagine being someone who was and then finding that out...having lost a friend to suicide who I idolized recently makes me horrified if I ever learned something like that about them.
YT celebrities continue to be a mess.
Not that I was personally attached to him but I can't imagine being someone who was and then finding that out...having lost a friend to suicide who I idolized recently makes me horrified if I ever learned something like that about them.
YT celebrities continue to be a mess.
Is that the one where he sarcastically and overdramatically taps the buttons? Or the one where he falls asleep?
Background Phelan was the best part of To Boldly Flee.
I remember that creep. Everything MarzGurl said about him is true. And there's more too, probably more than even she remembers. I certainly remember that time the creep threatened to murder Elisa and Paul's at-the-time newborn child.
Doug actually had that in a video, though I can't remember which. I remember the line mostly because of how it's where I really became consciously aware of how much my worldview differed from his, and is where my critical interests began to diverge. He's an edgelord basically, but one who doesn't want to be seen as an edgelord, so he tries to frame his views as that of reasoned, self-evident critique.
Trying to catch back up after my break last night. Looks like Tamara and Malcolm are tweeting in defense of Channel Awesome still after yesterday's revelations:
Obscurus_lupa tweeted this:
I can say there was more than one Jane Doe involved, and ones we are still learning about. At least one said that she did NOT want him named in the document to protect her and other victims, and only one is enough.
MarsGurl:
There are at least two people I've spoken two who say that, if he was told the real reason why he was let go from the site, he didn't give that reason to his friends. They were told something totally different by him. Other close friends of his had no idea.
Holly on her "resigning":
yup. CA told me I was done, had me sign something that said I resigned, but as the chat log shows, that's not exactly the truth of the matter. Legally, my hands are pretty tied.
And, they're down another another 1800 people so far today with yesterday losing 3500.
That's about it, I think.
Edit: Oh, and their forums turned into hell. And their subreddit has more activity than ever, and it's people dunking on them.
Obscurus_lupa tweeted this:
I can say there was more than one Jane Doe involved, and ones we are still learning about. At least one said that she did NOT want him named in the document to protect her and other victims, and only one is enough.
MarsGurl:
There are at least two people I've spoken two who say that, if he was told the real reason why he was let go from the site, he didn't give that reason to his friends. They were told something totally different by him. Other close friends of his had no idea.
Holly on her "resigning":
yup. CA told me I was done, had me sign something that said I resigned, but as the chat log shows, that's not exactly the truth of the matter. Legally, my hands are pretty tied.
And, they're down another another 1800 people so far today with yesterday losing 3500.
That's about it, I think.
Edit: Oh, and their forums turned into hell. And their subreddit has more activity than ever, and it's people dunking on them.
No, I think it was a 'Critic' video. Like, he referenced Daffy Duck, I think? I've found a vid from 2015 - 'When Does a Joke Go Too Far?' where he says 'As mentioned by myself and others, all comedy is based on some form of misery', which suggests the source is something earlier still. He really does genuinely think comedy is inherently something sadistic.
I'm gonna need a full rundown of this whole thing because I feel like I missed so much. I watched the "Fallen Titans #3" youtube video last night but apparently more has happened since then?
That's... not true at all. One of my favourite types of humour is absurdist humour, and most of the jokes I tell either witty remarks or aren't jokes so much as they are absurd non-sequiturs. I really don't know how Doug knows that not all humour derives from pain.
Yeah, at this point, their "wait for all the information to come out, wait for another horrible CA reply" shit is irrelevant. They protected a rapist and praised his memory, knowing full well what he did, and they benefited financially from it. There is nothing anyone at CA can say to make themselves look better.
Honestly? I think he just doesn't understand that there's another underlying aspect to the type of humour he grew up with and enjoyed. I'm pretty sure he has actively cited Daffy Duck as an inspiration. So when trying to explain why Daffy getting hurt all the time is so funny, he concludes: "It's because he's in pain, which must be somehow inherently entertaining." rather than "Because something that causes pain is generally unexpected, thus subverting our expectations, and it is the subversion that proves entertaining."
And also; because with Daffy, there's an element of him deserving it for his haughtiness that makes it amusing, as is his tendency to cause his own suffering. Overall it's less the suffering itself, and more the way it happens to Daffy that makes it funny.
They're done. They arrived after a lot of this shit went down and have no business commenting on it, much less acting like assholes about it.
And no, Tamara, this isn't "the most NORMAL thing ever." If the Chicago crew got paid for putting up other talents' vids then said talent should have been paid for the work they did and for driving traffic to the shitty CA website. Especially if, as we've already seen proven, they were turning profit based on other peoples' works. But, as I've said a lot now, these guys didn't have reps or lawyers and CA preyed on them as a result.
Or is this "you're getting paid for exposure" bullshit?
Yep. I was tired of it as it was happening, but at this point? It's clear cut. Anyone who wants to stand on the side of CA can sink with the ship, fuck'em.
Yep. While it is subversive, it also loops around into a way of making 'sense', even if only thematically. Thus a painting of a road 'becomes' a road - because it depicts a road - but it's also just a wall because hey, you saw it's just a wall. It ain't the pain, it's the logic. But Doug doesn't see that, because that doesn't fit his wider perspective of how media works, which as I've said, I think is rather... that of an edgelord.
They weren't even consistent in payment. Some got paid in the blip days for videos hosted, others didn't (MarzGurl).
...I gotta say..
For once, a hashtag movement actually caused major damage. Channel Awesome will probably never fully recover from this.
For once, a hashtag movement actually caused major damage. Channel Awesome will probably never fully recover from this.
Which is why he writes all of his characters as assholes (even if it's out of character during crossovers), as he doesn't know any form of comedy that doesn't involve suffering, so the person has to deserve it (which is probably why I hated the Nostalgia Chick, as I only knew her from crossovers and he always wrote her as the most abrasive character in all the crossovers for some reason).
Yep. I'm getting secondhand embarassment from reading their tweets.
Brad might have left(?) So I'm giving him a pass for now.
The Channel Awesome website has been abandoned at the moment so who knows what is happening.
They uploaded the rest of the crossovers sith Doug of that guy that left
They got rid of the dead sections. Moved the archived shows. And they haven't removed gaming wildlife despite confirmed leaving
They got rid of the dead sections. Moved the archived shows. And they haven't removed gaming wildlife despite confirmed leaving
He hasn't said anything about anything that I know of, so giving him a pass for now too.
I will say he usually RTs if a new video is cross-posted on CA. Nothing for a few weeks now despite CA putting some things up.
They're gonna try very hard to convince The Blockbuster Buster to make an appearance
First they have to find the rock he lives under. Last I checked there are a lot of rocks on the planet.
Well, this certainly put a smile over my face, thank you for sharing this!
Doug firmly believes that comedy/humor requires misery. He brings this up a lot and that seems to be the extent of his understanding about humor. This actually explains a lot, doesn't it?
Alternate source: http://channelawesome.com/nostalgia-critic-when-does-a-joke-go-too-far/
Edit: I somehow missed a whole page already explaining this, sorry for the repeat.
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Yeah they've drunk the kool-aid and they're loving it. From all this it seems like the Chicago office is operated less like a business and more like a cult.
Which, i mean, it'd be one thing if he were to have just said his preferred form of comedy is one from misery, but he always capped it off with "Everyone knows comedy from misery."
Jewario's 999 review was what got me into that game and VNs in general and his many other import videos were amazing. Sucks to hear about these things about him. His death actually shocked me so I would rather remember the good things about him. He's dead already so I'm just gonna move on.
Well, let's begin with the title: why Melvin of all names? You would think that if Joker ever had a brother, he would have a fitting name for a supervillain, like Jester, or The Comedian, but since obviously all comedy is founded on suffering, the character for a bad guy has a drab name because the character itself is a woeful man who's just trying to get out of his brother's shadow, still lives with his mom (that's costantly nagging him because isn't comedy based on misery?) and it's overall unhappy with his life. Playing with the concept of how a famous villain's brother will live his life it's certainly beneath Doug, and any form of humour that doesn't derive of some sort of pain is inherently inferior, so he just took the laz-I mean, ingenious route.
Overall the plot of the first (and only, for reasons unknown) episode is Melvin trying to come up with something that would make him look treathening to the world (more specifically, a raygun, because superhero cliches, amirite fellas?) only for him to fail to conjure anything substantial and it concludes with him promising to redeem himself in the future and grabbing a bat in order to beat up his annoying mom (again, this is the superior form of comedy, demonstrated with him feeding her sleeping pills to try to shut her up unsuccesfully).
In conclusion, this is not a pilot for a series that couldn't possibly have the means to go on for more than three episodes at best. It's a thesis on why all of comedy is based on suffering. The theme song, the setting, the filming, the dialogue, the character's personality, it's all trying to convey to the viewer the idea of torment and affliction (succeding quite well at it), which proves once again that Doug is the king of comedy and movie analysis. Take that, Lindsay, or should I... NOSTALGIA CHICK?
Which thing in particular are you referring to? I know for me this entire week has been pretty damned surreal.