'White lives matter' is a white supremacist slogan. She's advocating for the interrogation of the term and how it relates to how white supremecy asserts itself in society.I don't quite get it, what does she mean by "As white lives."?
'White lives matter' is a white supremacist slogan. She's advocating for the interrogation of the term and how it relates to how white supremecy asserts itself in society.
She is rejecting the 'whiteness' part I think. Saying that lives mattering is not dependent on whiteness, which is what 'White Lives Matter' is seemingly suggesting since it's only deployed in opposition to 'Black Lives Matter'I don't quite get it, what does she mean by "As white lives."?
The 4chan campaign was racist and homophobic and fueled with hate towards the lecturer. As a response to the hate, she was promoted.Is that a paper?
Is it a title?
What's going on there. Because the fact that 4chan led a campaign to get her promoted makes this suspect as fuck.
She is rejecting the 'whiteness' part I think. Saying that lives mattering is not dependent on whiteness, which is what 'White Lives Matter' is seemingly suggesting since it's only deployed in opposition to 'Black Lives Matter'
The 4chan campaign was racist and homophobic and fueled with hate towards the lecturer. As a response to the hate, she was promoted.
Is that a paper?
Is it a title?
What's going on there. Because the fact that 4chan led a campaign to get her promoted makes this suspect as fuck.
That sounds like "All lives matter" rhetoric.
Lives, the verb, as he lives or he dies. Not the noun.I don't quite get it, what does she mean by "As white lives."?
What? You're suggesting that white lives matter isn't a racist dogwhistle? It literally is. People chanted it while throwing nazi salutes in the capital like less than 2 weeks ago.
This is why twitter is an absolutely shit medium for trying to insert serious social discourse.
I see.
Well, actually, no I don't.
No, I agree, it is, which is why I can't make heads or tails of that tweet.
Same. It's hard to interpret what she really means by that.
She is rejecting the 'whiteness' part I think. Saying that lives mattering is not dependent on whiteness, which is what 'White Lives Matter' is seemingly suggesting since it's only deployed in opposition to 'Black Lives Matter'
I agree, Twitter is garbage. The thread in the OP explains the point pretty well though.This is why twitter is an absolutely shit medium for trying to insert serious social discourse.
I see.
Well, actually, no I don't.
No lives is being used as a noun there, read the thread in the OP
Yes that's what she means, which is what I was trying to say. She is rejecting the value of a life being tied to whiteness.Hmm... That's would the same as the ALM rhetoric, in that it's only trotted out to undermine BLM.
I'm thinking maybe she's means that White Lives Don't matter in regards to the whiteness of the life?
Either way not very clear.
Holy fuck she recieved a organised hate campaign, literally read the thread. This isn't about dumb whataboutisms about whether white lives matter or not.
The way I read it I think it supposed to be this:I have read this tweet a dozen times and pondered it and still don't understand WTF she can possibly mean with "As white lives."
If she had said this out loud in a spoken conversation, I feel like I'd be even more confused as to what she meant
Hmm... That's would the same as the ALM rhetoric, in that it's only trotted out to undermine BLM.
I'm thinking maybe she's means that White Lives Don't matter in regards to the whiteness of the life?
Either way not very clear.
It's been explained, people don't care.People in this thread are literally trying to parse the English of her original tweet. I don't understand at all what the sentence "As white lives" even means.
It means that the value of a life is not tied to the whiteness of the person.People in this thread are literally trying to parse the English of her original tweet. I don't understand at all what the sentence "As white lives" even means.
The way I read it I think it supposed to be this:
As white lives. As in, not the pronunciation in "white lives matter", but the meaning in, for instance "that man lives in a house". The world is biased to making sure the white person lives through scenarios that would be fatal for others.
"White lives don't matter as white lives."
The emphasis is on the second white. Basically, a white person's life doesn't inherently hold value on the basis of whiteness.
Okay, my confusion here is cleared up.I saw this in passing earlier - she was receiving absolutely vile abuse.
Her point required people to actually understand the wider point she was making. Alas, it's 2020 and people don't do that and instead use it as an opportunity to be incredibly racist and horrible to her.
They stood by her.
The way I read it I think it supposed to be this:
As white lives. As in, not the pronunciation in "white lives matter", but the meaning in, for instance "that man lives in a house". The world is biased to making sure the white person lives through scenarios that would be fatal for others.
Of course people aren't going to read criticisms of white supremacy and the normalization of whiteness in good faith. Doesn't matter how clear you are about it.People aren't gonna read stuff in good faith, britsh identity is intrinsically tied to whiteness and people react badly to it even if they claim to support the BLM movement.
It's basically the experience of being a person of colour in the UK, there was a similar harassment campaign because a non-white woman did the henious crime of taking a photo with an orange ice lolly after a terrorist incident, people where doing whataboutisms then too.
Considering how it is linked to how COvid is being handled, they should. Literally killing them, but they fight for the right to be dumbOf course people aren't going to read criticisms of white supremacy and the normalization of whiteness in good faith. Doesn't matter how clear you are about it.
Considering how it is linked to how COvid is being handled, they should. Literally killing them, but they fight for the right to be dumb
Whiteness doesn't care if it loses a foot, as long as a "lesser" loses a legEmancipation for many sections of the UK isn't making your own material circumstances better, but making them worse for people you see as 'lesser than you', with the countries colonial past left unacknowledged it's not a hard guess where that leads to.
Can't muster up even the faintest glow of sympathy.Considering how it is linked to how COvid is being handled, they should. Literally killing them, but they fight for the right to be dumb
That's awesome that her university had her back like that, fuck 4chan racists.
That's an unnecessarily obtuse tweet tho. You have people explaining what she meant in a whole paragraph what she tried to truncate in like one sentence that looks weird. Obviously" White Lives don't matter" is a pretty inflammatory statement without the context. You have 250 characters, use them!
Of course people aren't going to read criticisms of white supremacy and the normalization of whiteness in good faith. Doesn't matter how clear you are about it.