• Light/Dark
  • Ever wanted an RSS feed of all your favorite gaming news sites? Go check out our new Gaming Headlines feed! Read more about it here.
  • We have made minor adjustments to how the search bar works on ResetEra. You can read about the changes here.

Brad Sams - I'm Hearing from Multiple Sources that Game Pass isn't coming to the Switch, at least Near Term

jschreier

jschreier

Press Sneak Fuck
Verified
Oct 25, 2017
1,107
Spyder_Monkey said:
I know you mean well, but you're inadvertently sending people to potentially harass him.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
No, I'm trying to figure out why this particular rumor got so much traction. This is a news outlet reporting on information in the public record, information that has been spreading far and wide. That outlet's history deserves scrutiny.

I saw a Game Informer article citing this DirectFeedGames channel, which from a quick Google search has a history of being incorrect. Game Informer also cites their own sources - can't speak to that one. But as I posted earlier, what I've heard echoes what Brad Sams has heard.
 
IIFloodyII

IIFloodyII

Member
Oct 26, 2017
24,246
Ganondolf said:
I don't understand what's going on with these rumours.

Obviously MS wants GamePass on switch and we can assume Nintendo would be reluctant.

But what I don't understand if a GP deal is not being neogatiated between the 2 companies why is MS releasing Ori and possible Cuphead on Switch (MS don't give a shit about revenue from sales of these games on Switch).
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
Could be the devs pushing for it. It's happened with Sony a couple times and they allowed the devs to put the game on Steam/mobile (Helldivers, Everyone's Gone to The Rapture, Flower and Journey).
 
gofreak

gofreak

Member
Oct 26, 2017
7,820
jschreier said:
No, I'm trying to figure out why this particular rumor got so much traction. This is a news outlet reporting on information in the public record, information that has been spreading far and wide. That outlet's history deserves scrutiny.

I saw a Game Informer article citing this DirectFeedGames channel, which from a quick Google search has a history of being incorrect. Game Informer also cites their own sources - can't speak to that one. But as I posted earlier, what I've heard echoes what Brad Sams has heard.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...

Yeah, I heard your take on that podcast you participated in last week. But the speculation was a runaway train at that point. The source and their on/off history definitely deserved more caution I think.

I totally think MS would like this to happen, I definitely think MS might be prodding Nintendo about the possibility, but I also think there's many reasons Nintendo might not want full-throated gamepass access on Switch, or why it might take some time to figure out how it might happen. People were very dismissive of the potential risks for Nintendo in gamepass as a distraction from their own direct platform offerings, be they first or third party, particularly longer term, but I think those probably weigh heavily, especially for a company with Nintendo's history and how it's operated to date.
 
Mezoly

Mezoly

Jimbo Replacement
Member
Oct 25, 2017
4,404
I don't condone harassment and I hope people don't do that to the linked people here.

But it's time to recognize and point out the people who have a bad record. We already don't allow some Twitter insiders to be postsed here, I think it's fine to expand the number of banned sources or at least point out their record. We need to stop keeping people in the dark out of fear of harassment.
 
LewieP

LewieP

Member
Oct 26, 2017
18,161
Yeah Game Pass on Switch never made sense to me.

Xcloud on Switch does make sense, and game pass on Xcloud makes sense (Xcloud is the platform, the platform is not the device used to access Xcloud), but unless MS are doing native ports of all their first party games, Game Pass (a service by which you pay a subscription and then download many games) makes no sense for Switch.
 

Deleted member 6730

User requested account closure
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
11,526
jschreier said:
No, I'm trying to figure out why this particular rumor got so much traction. This is a news outlet reporting on information in the public record, information that has been spreading far and wide. That outlet's history deserves scrutiny.

I saw a Game Informer article citing this DirectFeedGames channel, which from a quick Google search has a history of being incorrect. Game Informer also cites their own sources - can't speak to that one. But as I posted earlier, what I've heard echoes what Brad Sams has heard.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
I get that and I even said that. But linking his Twitter is just going to send a bunch of negativity his way and no one should have that because they got a rumor wrong.
 
ccieag

ccieag

Banned
Oct 28, 2017
1,339
Vail, CO
I think it grew out of the very strong rumors of certain Xbox properties on Switch, such as Cup and Ori, and even Lucky Tales ... I think those games if multiple sources are right are instead native in nature, and published by MS. Like Minecraft
 
Kouriozan

Kouriozan

Member
Oct 25, 2017
21,248
All those journalists and insiders decided to collectively lie about it, I find it pretty funny.
 
Jonneh

Jonneh

Good Vibes Gaming
Verified
Oct 24, 2017
4,538
UK
cw_sasuke said:
I dont see it happen because of this - people who get pissed of because such news would probably look up the person themselves to send them a message.

But maybe im too naive.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
From experience I can say people are nuts. I received death threats for saying that Smash Grinch rumor was fake
 
Diarrhea Day-Lewis

Diarrhea Day-Lewis

Member
Oct 27, 2017
20,790
The "will he won't he" of whether Bonesawisready5 buys an Xbox continues.

I'd love it on Switch but I'm tempted to buy another Xbox after a year or two off. Waiting until e3 seems best maybe that $200 Maverick model will release tho original models can be had used for $150 some places
 
cw_sasuke

cw_sasuke

Member
Oct 27, 2017
26,548
ccieag said:
I think it grew out of the very strong rumors of certain Xbox properties on Switch, such as Cup and Ori, and even Lucky Tales ... I think those games if multiple sources are right are instead native in nature, and published by MS. Like Minecraft
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
Ori and Cuphead makes sense because they want people to get familiar with the IPs and the buy or get the Xbox for the sequels. Pretty much what 3rdPartys do when they drop the new AAA title on PS4/Xbox and the old Remaster on Switch.

Jonneh said:
From experience I can say people are nuts. I received death threats for saying that Smash Grinch rumor was fake
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
Okay - thats obv. messed up....didnt know people take this shit so serious.
 

Deleted member 30005

User requested account closure
Banned
Nov 2, 2017
305
What of the near-term @schreier. If Ori is releasing on Switch, it makes sense to do that under the PlayAnywhere banner, right?
 
Ganondolf

Ganondolf

Member
Jan 5, 2018
1,079
IIFloodyII said:
Could be the devs pushing for it. It's happened with Sony a couple times and they allowed the devs to put the game on Steam/mobile (Helldivers, Everyone's Gone to The Rapture, Flower and Journey).
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...

Maybe but I don't know why MS would put Xbox exclusives on Switch and devalue the Xbox Platform & GP with their future roadmap needed their exclusives to sell consoles & GP.
 
JayWood2010

JayWood2010

Member
Oct 27, 2017
3,120
iswasdoes said:
Some are but I don't think it's that simple

I think either in this case, the rumour is true and as this guy is prominent his sources are pouring cold water on it to quell the rumours

Or, and I think this is more likely, the PR people are starting to spread misinformation to catch leakers. With what went on with Metroid Prime Trilogy, and now this, they clearly are being told stuff that's not true.

I don't think they're just making it up.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...

Ive always wondered about this, and whether they would try to spread false information to weed out leakers.
 

Deleted member 18161

user requested account closure
Banned
Oct 27, 2017
4,805
Says something specific isn't happening between MS and Nintendo but then says something is happening between them but he doesn't know what it is... lol.
 
Mobu

Mobu

One Winged Slayer
The Fallen
Oct 28, 2017
5,932
the last two years havent been very good for Nintendo insiders, Yikesboyardee
 
Aokiji

Aokiji

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
6,265
Los Angeles
notsurprisedkirk.jpg
 
DMVfan123

DMVfan123

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
7,363
Virginia
Mezoly said:
I don't condone harassment and I hope people don't do that to the linked people here.

But it's time to recognize and point out the people who have a bad record. We already don't allow some Twitter insiders to be postsed here, I think it's fine to expand the number of banned sources or at least point out their record. We need to stop keeping people in the dark out of fear of harassment.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
It would be a shame if you got warned/banned for this because this comment is 100% fax
You and a few others like bear force one have been spot on in this thread
 
OP
OP
Iichter

Iichter

Member
Oct 29, 2017
1,369
Rion said:
Says something specific isn't happening between MS and Nintendo but then says something is happening between them but he doesn't know what it is... lol.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
It's the other way around, he first said that he confirms that something is happening between them but that he couldn't confirm if it was gamepass, and now he was told that Gamepass/xCloud ain't it.
 
IIFloodyII

IIFloodyII

Member
Oct 26, 2017
24,246
Kouriozan said:
All those journalists and insiders decided to collectively lie about it, I find it pretty funny.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
Could've just been a bad source. Or Brad and Jason don't have the right sources. I hold Jason extremely highly though and there'd likely be many people involved in something like this, so if he hasn't heard anything, I'm more likely to lean on it's not happening.
 
evilmonkey

evilmonkey

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,481
Canada
This rumor always felt like the result of people misunderstanding what the XDK's upcoming Switch support would look like. It didn't help that much of the press were reporting it as "Xbox Live coming to Switch", which at best indicated they had no idea what they were reporting.

While the XDK stuff on its own would mean MS is invested in the platform on some level, there's a huge difference between that and one of MS's services actually running on the system.
 
N.Domixis

N.Domixis

Banned
Oct 28, 2017
9,208
Nintendo making their own gamepass confirmed.

MarioPass play all Mario games for $299/month!

Day one.
 

Deleted member 4093

User requested account closure
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
7,671
jschreier said:
No, I'm trying to figure out why this particular rumor got so much traction. This is a news outlet reporting on information in the public record, information that has been spreading far and wide. That outlet's history deserves scrutiny.

I saw a Game Informer article citing this DirectFeedGames channel, which from a quick Google search has a history of being incorrect. Game Informer also cites their own sources - can't speak to that one. But as I posted earlier, what I've heard echoes what Brad Sams has heard.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
Just give us star fox grand prix and we straight
 
ccieag

ccieag

Banned
Oct 28, 2017
1,339
Vail, CO
MS just might want some of those sweet Switch sales. I imagine they look at performance numbers, and the fact that most Indies sell better on Switch has not escaped their attention. Also, the sales of Minecraft on Switch have been pretty impressive. Smoke has definitely been there, even before the GP rumors

I could see the less demanding games such as Ori and Cuphead as a possibility. Hell, Ori cannot be that intensive because I can play it in Steam via Wine on my MacBook Pro - which is way harder to do
 
IIFloodyII

IIFloodyII

Member
Oct 26, 2017
24,246
Ganondolf said:
Maybe but I don't know why MS would put Xbox exclusives on Switch and devalue the Xbox Platform & GP with their future roadmap needed their exclusives to sell consoles & GP.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
They are already on Steam, so they probably don't mind as much about that. And Ori on Switch would be great marketing for Ori 2 on Xbox/Windows.
 
TuMekeNZ

TuMekeNZ

Member
Oct 27, 2017
1,278
Auckland, New Zealand
I can imagine them bringing Ori and/or Cuphead to Switch and allowing you, if you choose to, to log into Xbox Live and earn achievements while playing on Switch. That is where the Xbox Live on Switch will end for the time being. The other option is obviously to play without having a Live account and at least MS will still get your $$ for the game purchase.
 
Ganondolf

Ganondolf

Member
Jan 5, 2018
1,079
nekkid said:
Their roadmap needs them to sell more GP, not more consoles.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...

That's what im saying. How does putting 2 exclusives (Ori & Cuphead) on Switch sell more GP when there is 2 less games that are exclusive to GP/Xbox Platform. If either of them were key games I wanted to play I just purchase them on switch instead of GP.
 
Dancrane212

Dancrane212

Member
Oct 25, 2017
13,969
evilmonkey said:
This rumor always felt like the result of people misunderstanding what the XDK's upcoming Switch support would look like. It didn't help that much of the press were reporting it as "Xbox Live coming to Switch", which at best indicated they had no idea what they were reporting.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...

Yeah a lot of the articles that were written about that panel lost the plot and stacked a lot of fuel for the GamePass rumor to run with.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.