It's also day one on Game Pass though so won't make much of an impact.
Bloomberg is reporting that Sony will reveal its new Spartacus subscription service as soon as next week.
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It's also day one on Game Pass though so won't make much of an impact.
I already pay for PS+ that I barely use so I am not expecting this to move the needle for me personally, but who knows maybe Sony has an ace or two up their sleeves...
Thank god. That was my biggest concern. I'm broadly fine with the rest of it, Sony were never going to commit to a Game Pass model, even if they want in on the revenue.
Thank you. No interest in the NSO approach. Sorta gross to gate classics exclusively behind a paywall. By their nature they're things you'll want to revisit for years to come. Let me own them.
Pass if it doesn't have day 1 first party releases. Had PS Now for a year and once the nostalgia wears off it gets old fast.
I can't see the negativity to start on this especially if you already pay for PS+ anyways. Based on the rumored upgrade pricing, it'll be a no brainer for myself. PS1 games, Free to Start Demos & curated indies would definitely catch my eye, along with some sort of Crunchyroll addition as well. How many people out there just have regular Game Pass? It will be the same with this if it is enticing enough...
Odd. I know for a fact that the HD collection games (MGS2, MGS3, and Peace Walker) were all on there at one point. I know this because I was looking up if PS Now could be an option to play MGS3 or PW if my PS3 died. That's when I learned that playing MGS3 on PS Now is a sub-par experience because analog face buttons are used in that game to perform key actions and the PS4/PS5 controllers don't have analog face buttons.
If they are smart they will. It's launching on game pass - the amount of bad press they'll get if their new service doesn't have it will be large. Probably torpedo any good will from launching a new service.
For that reason I'm almost 100% sure they will - even if no other games are day one moving forward.
Unless classics are also added to the PS Store as standalone purchases, the value proposition of retro games on the PlayStation platform will be terrible to me. I'm not especially keen to want to pay a service charge any time I get the itch to play one of my favorite classics.
Not worried that games won't be day 1, luckily I've held off on buying any first party Sony games this gen anticipating this service was coming
Are you a plain, premium or platinum member?
Edit: actually that's too on the nose but I think the top tier will be called platinum
I think both are quite obvious. There's absolutely no reason to announce the changes to their subscriptions weeks or even months in advance, and they're obviously not going to get rid of the PlayStation Plus branding since it already has 48 million subscribers and is a very well known name. The only question is what the names will be for the 2nd and 3rd Tiers.
Konami delisted all versions of MGS2 and 3 some time ago because the rights to archival footage expired, maybe that's why?
Given how stingy and money hungry Sony has been this generation, I really doubt they are going to give people much credit for their already purchased PS+ and PSNow memberships. I'd guess the conversion ratios are going to be terrible to the new Spartacus tiers.
Whoops, some folks got an Xbox One instead of a Series X pre-order
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Seems like a multiplatform feature
PS Plus Bronze
PS Plus Gold
PS Plus Platinum / Diamond
They'll probably keep the PS Plus name and just add some tier terms to it.
PS Plus Gold
PS Plus Platinum / Diamond
They'll probably keep the PS Plus name and just add some tier terms to it.
I'm not expecting too much, but GamePass isn't even a factor there. I'm personally way more interested in PS1 and PS2 games than in day 1 Sony games anyway.
The thing is, the possibility of convoluted, poorly structured, luxuriously priced tiers + some compromised element to the (re)introduction of classic games and whatnot has me suppressing my excitement. The rumors pretty much line up with my interests. The execution? We'll see.
Microsoft isn't bleeding cash. Xbox is making a profit. Sony can afford a Game Pass style subscription model but it goes against their business philosophy and that's why this thread is so pessimistic about what they'll offer.
The 'to prop up a GP style subscription model' was the important bit of that sentence.
Looking at future classic titles, i just wonder if Ape Escape 3 will ever be available or if the different localizations make it difficult and a remaster would make it easier to get out. My enthusiasm will remain low if all classic titles will be PSNow things, in that case i will continue to sleep.
The xbox side of things might be profitable but they are clearly losing money on gamepass. They are spending shitloads bringing games to that service. Even Tom Warren who is as pro xbox as they come has said that. Ultimately though it doesn't matter, its about making a lot of money long term and bringing players to that ecosystem. Netflix didn't make any money for ages.
If gamepass was profitable, the richest company on the planet wouldn't be the only one doing it.
If Nintendo can get away with $50/yr on barely functional online multiplayer and a paltry dripfeed of games from their back catalog, then Sony will probably do just fine with whatever this is.
I hope it's worth the drawn out rumor cycle and actually shows some respect to the PS back catalogue but I'm not holding my breath. Basically in "I'll believe it when I see it" mode.
I hope it's worth the drawn out rumor cycle and actually shows some respect to the PS back catalogue but I'm not holding my breath. Basically in "I'll believe it when I see it" mode.
I doubt it as well but it would be nice if they did. It would be an easy way to get a heap of subscriptions at once and have some good PR.
I don't think it's so much an answer to game pass as it is an answer to gold and gamepass becoming one thing on the Microsoft side. It makes sense to consolidate the services of Plus and Now just like it made sense for Microsoft to merge since they go hand in hand with online titles.
From what the OP is saying it seems that it's not really an answer to the competition,much more of a being unsatisfied with Now's growth.
i think that is it really. Playstation Now has a negative connotation attached to it as being not great quality. Os instead, merge it with playstation plus introduce tiers, done. I do think people are looking too much into it, probably because of that gamepass comparison made in the original article. It is entirely possible Sony doesn't really see it as a competitor at all, in the traditional sense.
Personally I'm more interested in getting their GaaS games day one, especially Faction, Bungie's third-person action game and whatever Haven is making. But I agree with you, there's potential in this but it depends heavily on the execution i.e. they need to balance sustainability/profitability against making an appealing product and that necessitates a very focused product.
I do hope they have done their market research thoroughly, and found the target audience to make this work.
Thanks for answering on my behalf. Cheers.
Microsoft isn't bleeding cash to prop up Game Pass or otherwise.
Phil Spencer Says Game Pass Is Sustainable, Not Burning Cash
"No. Game Pass is very, very sustainable right now."
www.gamespot.com
Even with Phil Spencer directly addressing your comment you still can't accept it? This is crazy.