I'm 99% sure the voice telling the story was Sterling K Brown. That was N'Jobu talking to Erik.
https://www.popsugar.com/entertainment/Who-Does-Sterling-K-Brown-Play-Black-Panther-44571929
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I'm 99% sure the voice telling the story was Sterling K Brown. That was N'Jobu talking to Erik.
https://www.popsugar.com/entertainment/Who-Does-Sterling-K-Brown-Play-Black-Panther-44571929
If there isn't at least a 20-minute Wakandan botany scene in Black Panther 2, I'm calling BS!
yeah i wouldn't say they were filler scenes, just some scenes that didn't have the same gravitas as it should. Like, its hard to do a casino setpiece when you have things like casino royale and Logan out there (looking at you SW). The casino scene in BP wasn't done well either
It's mentioned in the movie, and mentioned by Ryan Coogler in an interview. It's why I'm little disappointed it is shown as a perfunctory buff of little consequence given its cultural importance to Wakanda, and the dramatic ancestral plane scenes.
You might as well not mention that it gives the Black Panther any powers and just have the herb allow the Panther to speak with the dead as part of the ceremony.
Erik sending weapons out would be the death of Wakanda. His men would die. Weapons taken. Tony studies weapons. Repurposes them. Game over Wakanda. Wakanda now has to give a trillion dollars worth of vibraniuk every year to the UN for the next 50 years as reparations.
Don't get me wrong, I liked the movie, but it seems so rushed. I feel like the movie was completely ruined in post. I felt like there were so many scenes that jumped around too much. Also, the CIA white guy (terrible with names) just felt so....eh. Wish he was done a little better or just removed completely
That being said, I really liked the supporting characters. The General (bad with names) was such a cool character and her husband's (again, bad with names) tribe seemed like just your every day farmers until it turns out they had crazy energy shields and rhinos.
Overall, great movie that I will watch again but not the masterpiece I felt it was hyped up to be and was rushed out the door
That being said, I really liked the supporting characters. The General (bad with names) was such a cool character and her husband's (again, bad with names) tribe seemed like just your every day farmers until it turns out they had crazy energy shields and rhinos.
Overall, great movie that I will watch again but not the masterpiece I felt it was hyped up to be and was rushed out the door
Could've been younger T'Chaka's voice too.
Again, nothing about Erik fits what the child sounded like.
Yeah read that part, Ha.
A political satire sounds like fun.
It's kind of true, though. No nation can conquer the world as uprisings occur. Sure, some people will die but those weapons don't make them invincible as a grenade was able to knock back T'Challa even with the kinetic suit. An AC-130 would crush those weapons. It's a poorly thought out plan to liberate everyone as you handing weapons to tyrants.
you dont know the number of war dogs that there are on the world, so you cant assume that they would have failed
You talking about AC-130s in a Marvel movie. Lol
The budget was 200 mil and alot of it went to costume design and the Wakandan backdrop.
Wakandans travel space. This is a comic book movie. They will show more tech in IW without a doubt.
Killmonger choosing to die made perfect sense to me and it's a mirror on Zemo. Erik was defeated, but he doesn't believe he was wrong. If he was allowed to live he'd never stop trying to achieve his goal. So, that means either T'Challa imprisons him, like Zemo or kills him. And, Erik didn't want to be imprisoned.
I mean...that's the point. His father was taken from him. He was a regular kid before that.
Also, narratively, there's no reason for T'Chaka to talk about this to T'Challa. This is a way for the viewer to have dump of exposition that also benefits the story.
I think history has proven this can't work. Like Ghenghis Khan conqeured a whole lot and when he died well... did his men keep it together? Nope. Like, the USA couldn't deal with Vietnam. Afghanistan crushed Russia. You can't just take over the world. I'm surprised no one from the council or anywhere told Erik how stupid his plan was.
We're not talking about "history", troll.
Wakandans are not like any real world country.
He wasn't an African sounding one though. We even hear him speak while he's playing ball. He sounds like an American nigga.
And there's plenty of reason for T'Chaka to tell his young son that story narratively; it's their heritage. You're telling me with a straight face it doesn't make sense for a kid to ask his father to tell him a story, and for that father to share a traditional one with him, even if it's not the first time he's told it to him? Hell you talking about?
So, nah.
Why are you applying real world history to a fictional nation that would be fighting with technology hundreds if not thousands of years more advanced than any other army on the planet? Conventional military weapons wouldn't put a dent in Wakandan tech.
Tell me this, have you bitched about how stupid Hydras plan was in Winter Soldier? Send out 3-5 planes with lasers around the world to start a Nazi Regime? And Cap was able to take 2 of them out by himself?...
Hulk was still on the planet when they started that plan.
Is that plot dumb as shit to you?
He was going to kill him but he was cheated by the elder who interfered. It is what it is, they wouldn't have let it ride even if he killed him.
That's not the MCU.We're not talking about "history", troll.
Wakandans are not like any real world country.
He demonstrated pretty early on that he doesn't react well to constructive criticism.
They're not head to toe in vibranium so conventional weaponry would easily work. Klau was able to get Wakandan tech so it's not a stretch to say other governments would be able to when Wakanda tosses them out to their fighters.
Yeah, that was dumb. Posted about it on GAF.
We're not talking about "history", troll.
Wakandans are not like any real world country.
They even mention Bast over and over in the movie.
lol. Okay, but:
Brown himself has also played coy about his character, but it turns out N'Jobu has more of a significant role in the film than I expected. In fact, as soon as Black Panther begins, we get a clearer view of who he is. The movie opens with narration from N'Jobu explaining the rich history of Wakanda to his young son, as well as the importance of vibranium, a rare metal that is one of the most valuable resources to the fictitious African nation.
Think what you want, tho.
User warned: trolling. No need to flaunt the fact you have another user on "ignore."
Wait, subpar is posting in this thread? Hmm, couldn't tell
Beautiful shots.
And yeap, even from the very opening there is some absolutely stunning cinematography.
You're quoting an article from an entertainment website with absolutely zero confirmation from anyone who worked on the movie. That ain't an official synopsis. Your theory stinks.
I rest my case.
Thank you.
Erik is a Black Op. He's trained to destroy nation's. He sent the weapons hastily because he was hell-bent but that wasn't the end all be all to his plan. He wasn't going to storm the world at one time. He was going to sow sow seeds of destruction to the world order. False flag attacks, terrorism all that
Once those cruisers left Wakanda, they couldn't be accounted for. God knows where they were headed.
Erik would have destabilized every global government before swooping in to destroy shit. It's a direct fucking parrallel to CIA tactics.
Will W'Kabi ( Daniel Kaluuya) be in Infinity Wars? Do you think his character will be forgiven for the betrayal?
He's not in Infinity War. We'll probably have to wait until BP2 to see him again.
What I've seen suggests the language used for the dialogue in the film is Xhosa. That said, baba is a common alternative to papa, while the film mixes and matches cultural customs because of Wakanda being fictional and used to represent a wide swathe of the continent at once.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/insert...robably-missed-in-black-panther/#26f89e61513c
I mean, others have picked up on it.
But, I guess you need Coogler's word or something.
oooh snap!
but yeah, it has more impact if it is njobu narrating to erik
Like, I was honestly surprised it took a 2nd viewing for people. I figured that was going on when I heard the kid's accent (but, then again, I knew Killmonger's situation from the comics and so already knew he was a Wakandan American).
The kid didn't have an accent when I saw it the second time. It's defnintely Erik and his father.
You're quoting articles from websites that write shit like "under Feige's direction, Marvel Studios has had a string of hits in recent years with Guardians of the Galaxy, Spider-Man: Homecoming, and Deadpool."
That's not a supporting argument. It's you deflecting to "well, others think so too!" instead of addressing how weird it is to think an African kid asking his "baba" to tell him a story is the same nigga we hear cry out "dad!" in a perfect American accent when he finds him dead later on in a flashback.
But if that's really what you want to believe, by all means, believe Forbes and that one guy you saw in a Twitter thread with the same flimsy ass theory.
*shrug* don't make me no difference
Nah, he definitely had an African accent, during both of my viewings.
Erik wouldn't yield. Part of what separates him from T'Challa (and also from his own father N'Jobu's original goal) is that he is too far gone — all he has left in him is his anger. It's whats driven him all that time to do what he's done since childhood. Losing a single fight to T'Challa isn't going to free him of that. He can't let go of it and he knows it, which is why he knows he wouldn't be take a place living among them and live normally and only incarceration would await him. Hence his final line.
I originally thought it was T'Challa & his dad, but upon seeing it a second time, it is definitely Erik & N'Jobu reciting the story of Wakanda. Which also makes more sense anyway because it is thus the "fairytale" the kid from Oakland believes in.
Probably because he was younger when he was asking his dad to tell him stories.
If that's what you wanna go with.
But originally it was "well, he changed when his father was taken from him" when that ain't the case.
Again, if this is what you want to believe, go ahead. Nothing backs it up, but I ain't Coogler.
I didn't know you meant his "accent." I didn't hear anything other than calling him baba. I thought you meant it was weird for Erik to be asking his father to tell him a story.
The narrative backs it up. Sterling K Brown's voice in the intro backs it up.
Yep. GOTG is a beautiful movie and Vol. 2 made it look even more like a space opera novel. I'm not gonna stand by for slander of it.