Theres a pretty big difference between a personal business making $160,000 a year, a lot of which is going back into the channel, and a company like Bethesda who does $50 million a year or whatever in revenue. I think it's disingenuous to equate the two.Who said he should change it?
It's just silly for him to act like he is beholden to chasing pageviews when he has a fairly massive and reliable income stream.
One could just as easily make the converse argument -- because he covers such an extremely narrow field of topics and so frequently retreads the same opinions, his ability to gain Patrons is ultimately limited.
Now that he's fashioned himself as anti-capitalist, these profit-driven justifications ring all-the-more hollow. He frequently criticizes all manner of developers and publishers who claim "Well we can't do things better or different because we'll make less money!" "I can't give up ragemongering or I'll make less money" is the same line of thought and motivation.
Absolutely.Honestly I wish more people who work in the industry had to hutzpah to tell their fanbases to Sit The Fuck Down. Maybe if enough folks did with consistency we could begin to stamp down and minimize Gamer Outrage.
Absolutely.
I don't even have any love for Bethesda, but I felt Pete's tweet 110%.
The ability for a certain subset of Gamers to go wild with expectations for no reason, only to turn around and get outraged at others when their insane fantasies don't pan out, is maddening at times.
Also somewhat disingenuous to say I'm equating Sterling with Bethesda when I didn't even mention Bethesda in passing.Theres a pretty big difference between a personal business making $160,000 a year, a lot of which is going back into the channel, and a company like Bethesda who does $50 million a year or whatever in revenue. I think it's disingenuous to equate the two.
I can't remember if it was the Banjo stream or the Terry stream, but at least one of the Smash DLC character showcases was appended with a warning along the lines of "this presentation will ONLY be about the character; there will be no announcements."I've brought this up in threads that I could tell were hyping out of control and been accused of 'not allowing people to have fun' and whatnot. I've been around long enough, every goddamn Nintendo direct has had people pump themselves up for Metroid/Mother 3/F-Zero then complain and temper tantrum there's no news on them (or the news isn't enough), people need to stop deluding themselves into expectations reality isn't going to confirm. Especially when it's the same cycle over and over again.
I just used bethesda as an example. Insert any other publisher.Also somewhat disingenuous to say I'm equating Sterling with Bethesda when I didn't even mention Bethesda in passing.
I'm not equating them -- I just said it's a similar line of thought and philosophy, but the scale is entirely different of course.
EDIT: Ok, I'm reframing the thread as a discussion thread that questions why Bethesda's VP of global marketing would reply to a fan of Elder Scrolls with this:
EDIT: I've removed the YongYea video and am trying to reframe this thread into a discussion thread.
I apologize for mentioning YongYea.
A Youtuber releasing a 10+ min video everytime a game company does something else than release a game.
That's the part that bugs me, especially lately. He just drones on and on, going over the same bit of info over and over, just to hit the ten minute mark. I stopped watching when I realized his videos could be condensed down to about two minutes and not lose any actual content.A Youtuber releasing a 10+ min video everytime a game company does something else than release a game.
That's the part that bugs me, especially lately. He just drones on and on, going over the same bit of info over and over, just to hit the ten minute mark. I stopped watching when I realized his videos could be condensed down to about two minutes and not lose any actual content.
People would be asking for TES VI with or without that teaser. Bethesda can't win for losing here.Probably would have helped if they didn't release that "teaser". Makes ppl expect to not have to wait 5 years to see something lol.
But at the same time Idk why ppl think they're gonna see something about Elder Scrolls when we haven't even seen anything about Starfield
YongYea creates tabloid because it gives him clicks.
There needs to be a name for this phenomena, because this exact same thing happened to me. I was subbed for like two months a few years ago and caught the same thing you did.That's the part that bugs me, especially lately. He just drones on and on, going over the same bit of info over and over, just to hit the ten minute mark. I stopped watching when I realized his videos could be condensed down to about two minutes and not lose any actual content.
He's a bigot. Went all in on gamergate-style rhetoric when there was controversy over the firing of a female employee of ArenaNet (the firing was the result of a similar social media exchange to this current incident ironically, 3 guesses why that one blew up the way it did while this one is fizzling), took an "anti-SJW" stance on trans representation in Cyberpunk 2077, and caters to the alt-right adjacent brand of "gamer rage" generally.I don't understand the backlash of linking a Yongyea video.
I agree that he's not a good content creator and seems to have most of his work just reading out tweets, but that just kind of makes him a boring pundit/gaming news guy. I haven't heard of him doing anything truly vile like being a bigot or whatever.
If the worst thing you can say about him is that he's bad at video producing, I don't see the big deal about linking his stuff.
Ah, okay. Nevermind then. I rescind my statement. Backlash away.He's a bigot. Went all in on gamergate-style rhetoric when there was controversy over the firing of a female employee of ArenaNet (the firing was the result of a similar social media exchange to this current incident ironically, 3 guesses why that one blew up the way it did while this one is fizzling), took an "anti-SJW" stance on trans representation in Cyberpunk 2077, and caters to the alt-right adjacent brand of "gamer rage" generally.
I didn't read the responses, but you're absolutely right.Reading the responses to his tweet just confirms the sentiment that gamers are impossible.
Both of Jim and Yong get off on stirring drama. While their videos definitely do cover legitimate issues, the presentation they usually go with seem to be counterproductive. Instead of educational tone, and level headed analysis, they spread outrage and drama. It's why I actually stopped watching both of them. Yong in particular seem to take it even further.Sterling is great. His videos skirt the line between trolling and genuine concern but he usually covers legitimate issues that erupt into drama because it exposes the ridiculousness of some people.
Fuck YongYea. Also If YongYea is banned Jim Sterling should be too, they're both shit stirring clickbaiters.
They've been absolutely clear about it being a very long way off. I don't understand why people keep bugging. Having said that, he could've responded in a more respectful way. These people are the ones keeping the lights on at Bethesda. There's definitely a strong sense of entitlement coming from some of those replies, but the majority seem to be respectful.
I feel the same. I still, however, play and enjoy Fallout but yeah it's no ES.I love the Elder Scrolls games and don't really care about Fallout, so it hasn't been fun waiting. Still going to be a very long time.
Fuck YongYea. Also If YongYea is banned Jim Sterling should be too, they're both shit stirring clickbaiters.
So where is the line? Can we only post puff pieces? Jim Sterling does SOME good work.
YouTubers pad out their videos to be 10+ min for higher engagement, so people watch longer and more space for ads. That's how your success is judged now, not subscribers. With YongYea's channel, it's really blatant.That's the part that bugs me, especially lately. He just drones on and on, going over the same bit of info over and over, just to hit the ten minute mark. I stopped watching when I realized his videos could be condensed down to about two minutes and not lose any actual content.