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Hopefully.

It's incredibly difficult to identify your own patterns of behaviour, including self destructive ones. At some point this vast wealth of information, and the use of it, will mature past the point of selling me things and into the realm of genuine behavioural studies.

Facebook (or the equiv) could tell you "Tonight, you're planning on going out. This will cost you on avg. £80. £60 of that will be spent after you are drunk. £20 will be spent on food you have a 75% chance of either not eating or throwing back up. Tomorrow you will take on avg. 8 painkillers for your hangover and feel 72% less """happy""" than you do during a normal 3 day weekend day.

Why don't you <insert suggestions based on productive and already established healthy patterns of behaviour here> instead? If not - have a great night."

That's where I want to see this data being used.

Yes, what we need are companies directly influencing our spending habits and free time, what could go wrong?
 
Oct 26, 2017
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They all know what you're doing and the smaller companies do too. We are past the tipping point.

Everyone and anyone knows and keeps track of all your boring shit and daily life and interests, hobbies and ramndom activities.

Stop being outraged that they are just admitting to it.


You want to get off the grid? Then don't have a fucking phone (which is the equivalent of the microchip implant in your brain, the shit we saw in sci-fi movies).

Burn off your fingerprints, hunt and kill your own food (or grow your own plants you vegans)

Otherwise it's not just the NSA, all these tech companies know more about you than your loved ones, probably even you
zoggy take a deep breath.

And I'll be there in 5 minutes with 2 suits to bring you to the re- education center.

truth isn't truth
privacy isn't privacy
2+2=5
 

Narroo

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Feb 27, 2018
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They all know what you're doing and the smaller companies do too. We are past the tipping point.

Everyone and anyone knows and keeps track of all your boring shit and daily life and interests, hobbies and ramndom activities.

Stop being outraged that they are just admitting to it.


You want to get off the grid? Then don't have a fucking phone (which is the equivalent of the microchip implant in your brain, the shit we saw in sci-fi movies).

Burn off your fingerprints, hunt and kill your own food (or grow your own plants you vegans)

Otherwise it's not just the NSA, all these tech companies know more about you than your loved ones, probably even you
Oh Eff off. There's a difference between being a Ludite and wanting some basic security for yourself. Hell, the only reason that we even ended up in this situation with Google, Apple, and et cetera is because of dumbasses like you screaming "it doesn't matter." Go back and crawl into your hole.
 

Netherscourge

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I think this is about people complaining that Facebook sells your "like" history. Or reading your text messages. Stuff like that.

Threatening to quit Facebook and whatnot.

It's not just Facebook. Hell, Google probably logs and sells ALL your clicks you click on in Chrome.

If you want to truely control your privacy, you have to quit the internet. Period.
 

PeskyToaster

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If youtube is any indication of the strength of their algorithms then it's just the last video I clicked on which defines what I want to watch for an eternity.
 

LL_Decitrig

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Every time somone says this I remember that google keeps surfacing ads in spanish to me......I dont speak spanish.

I once (and only once) liked a post in Portuguese on Google+, now more than half my spam folder is in Portuguese, and much of that is trying to sell me English lessons. Although I can read Portuguese because it's a romance language, I neither understand nor speak the spoken language and wouldn't know enough even to say good morning in written Portuguese.
 

PaulloDEC

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I've never really cared, but I'm glad there are people who do. It's those people who balance out all the uncaring chumps like me and stop the world sliding into 1984.
 

Monkeyball

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People now: "I don't care, I have nothing to hide LOL!"

People in 10 years when these profiles will affect your life: "Oh shit."
 

mutantmagnet

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They all know what you're doing and the smaller companies do too. We are past the tipping point.

Everyone and anyone knows and keeps track of all your boring shit and daily life and interests, hobbies and ramndom activities.

Stop being outraged that they are just admitting to it.


You want to get off the grid? Then don't have a fucking phone (which is the equivalent of the microchip implant in your brain, the shit we saw in sci-fi movies).

Burn off your fingerprints, hunt and kill your own food (or grow your own plants you vegans)

Otherwise it's not just the NSA, all these tech companies know more about you than your loved ones, probably even you
Some day I'll see this talked about seriously again but today is not that day.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Attn OP:

You're being a flippant asshole

Yes people are aware being online means the barriers of privacy have been removed, but it doesn't mean people can't speak up and protest in hopes of getting some semblance of balance back.
 

Diablos

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OP is kinda flippant. Yes they're sharing data but it's not quite 1984-ish.
 
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People said this same stuff ten years ago, and I have yet to be impacted by Google and Facebook knowing what I like.

Sometimes the bigger picture goes beyond how it impacts your life.

Social Media, and people's "privacy", being leveraged in ways to incite political violence and/or predator spending is a problem
 

RionaaM

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Oct 25, 2017
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OP, you've been 10 years late with this announcement. I mean, you're not wrong, it's just at this point everyone knows that's the case.
 
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FunkyPajamas

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Oct 27, 2017
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I don't care.

Have fun NSA looking through my 10 hours of porn and lets plays.

Have at me and my data, I'm pretty boring

I don't care. Nothing to see here.

:3
This is my position as well. I'm probably the most boring person in the world. I look at vanilla porn (mostly in GIF form because I only need like a minute), I read this forum and barely post (though I've been more active lately), I post/view hiking/dog/cat pictures on Instagram/imgur. I use Gmail for business. I buy camping stuff on Amazon. I guess that's it. No facebook/twitter/etc, but not because of privacy concerns, I just find those things boring and a waste of time (plus I get angry at all the idiotic shit people post/share all the time).

I guess I'm concerned with privacy regarding financial stuff. I wouldn't want my bank info out there, but then again my bank probably "owns" that stuff so not much I can do unless I decide to get a cheque and cash out every month.
 

Possum Armada

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Attn OP:

You're being a flippant asshole

Yes people are aware being online means the barriers of privacy have been removed, but it doesn't mean people can't speak up and protest in hopes of getting some semblance of balance back.

Well, it is a Zoggy thread.....

Also, I have no issues with people wanting more control over their data.

That said, how many of those people are willing to pay more for email, web searches, websites, map software, social media accounts, and what not?

The value of your data has allowed for very expensive software and apps to be given to consumers for free...
 
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zoggy

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Attn OP:

You're being a flippant asshole

Yes people are aware being online means the barriers of privacy have been removed, but it doesn't mean people can't speak up and protest in hopes of getting some semblance of balance back.
How are you going to organize and build up up that mass protest


Please tell me the logistics of it all
 

IDreamOfHime

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Yup. Even then i was surprised i got a notification telling me my hotel reservation was coming up in a few days when i had booked it all through email correspondence, not through a booking site.
So google had read my private email and decided to remind me of that information without me asking it to.
 

hibikase

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The way I see it, varying your ecosystem usage makes sure that no one entity knows too much about you.
 
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zoggy

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Sometimes the bigger picture goes beyond how it impacts your life.

Social Media, and people's "privacy", being leveraged in ways to incite political violence and/or predator spending is a problem
It's not like we'll ever have a presidential election compromised by social media propaganda or something
 

Deleted member 32563

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Is privacy still a right if you knowingly give it away? Like with Instagram and Facebook people volunteer a lot of info about themselves and indirectly about others. Isn't it a bit of a dig a hole situation. People are literally telling on themselves.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Well, it is a Zoggy thread.....

Also, I have no issues with people wanting more control over their data.

That said, how many of those people are willing to pay more for email, web searches, websites, map software, social media accounts, and what not?

The value of your data has allowed for very expensive software and apps to be given to consumers for free...

I know nothing about this poster so I'm sure it's a trap, but a cultural shift in the way we use services needs to change. We used to pay for software and no one batted an eye over it. You say "expensive software" but I'm willing to bet the vast majority of "free" software that is of extreme value could not be repackaged into affordable options.

How are you going to organize and build up up that mass protest


Please tell me the logistics of it all

I mean, any news story that helps to shed light on the way progmattic advertising works goes a long way. No one in here is saying we need to immediately take to the streets with rifles knocking on data center doors. Education on places like here or anywhere else which then allows others to educate.

It's far better than your attitude of "FUCK IT GET OVER IT"
 

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Known issue. OP you can always not use social media services, run traffic through a VPN, and use duckduckgo for search.
 

sayuuna

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A solution (for those who may be conscientious about this concern, like myself) is to check every site you use and investigate their ToS and Privacy pages (e.g. email services, shopping sites, forums, etc.) and navigate to the "opt-out personalized ads" screens. They often provide links to purveyors to investigate popular target marketing organizations like NAI which [live] track your browsing history and virtually follow you while you net on the world wide web. Also included are (separate) opt-out requests for this and potentially 100+ more third party companies (to which zoggy alludes) responsible for other, but similar aspects of online ad targeting, marketing, and data collection schema.

I implore you to check the following links if you so dare:

Oath, a Verizon Company, on their "tracking rationis" for Yahoo & AOL accounts:
https://policies.oath.com/us/en/oath/privacy/controls/index.html

NAI & the Digital Advertising Alliance (DAA) with information on cookie data collection for all common U.S. browsers, as well as options to opt-out of data collection:
http://www.networkadvertising.org/understanding-online-advertising/what-are-my-options
 

Possum Armada

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It's not like we'll ever have a presidential election compromised by social media propaganda or something

That kind of thing has happened for literal centuries. Fake astroturfing ads have existed in print, radio, and tv for many many years. Groups would send out leaflets spreading lies and sowing dissent. At some point you really should put down the beer and read a history book Zog.
 

PrimeBeef

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I don't care.

Have fun NSA looking through my 10 hours of porn and lets plays.
From my understanding they never did that. Unless your info came up in the algorithms used to search for threats and potential links to threats. There has not been enough hours since the NSA program has started for the agency to physically go over every phone call and shit.
 

Dingens

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Oct 26, 2017
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I always assumed Americans lack experience with nice institutions like the Gestapo or the Stasi and therfore can be stupid about this.
But after countless treads about China and Russia gate, you guys are running out of excuses, from my pov at least