Remember how painful/surreal it was watching Obama and Michelle introducing Trump and Melania into the White House? Now picture Trump doing the same for the Bidens.
Remember how painful/surreal it was watching Obama and Michelle introducing Trump and Melania into the White House? Now picture Trump doing the same for the Bidens.
he will lose if the votes are counted
I don't think they're going to count every vote
they're gonna fight mail in and it can get ugly
I think some part of Trump would relish playing the turd in the punchbowl, but on the whole, yeah, he's too much of a coward to show up at the inauguration if he loses. He'll spend the day hate-tweeting while watching FOX News.
Not that there won't always be a need to protect voting access (which is something that will surely be a legislative initiative in the next Congress), but the current vote-by-mail issue is a unique problem caused by the pandemic, not something that will be repeated in future administrations (fingers crossed).I dont see this... I feel that this Republican admin was dumb enough to telegraph this intent, but future Repub admins wont....
That's not outside the realm of possibilities.
If He plays the wrong move he can end up on trial by the united nations instead since no foreign entity would attack us because of trump if he is on his way out and instead they bring their case to the UN they can and will try him as human rights violations have occurred under his watch which makes him liable to be hung.
If he was a sitting president but once he is no longer all bets are off.Isn't there a (ridiculous and very clearly evil) law that says the US would, like, free him by military force if they even arrested him for that to begin with?
Am not worried about Trump. He can't do SHIT
Am more worried about the idiotic followers. I fear there will def be chaos in the streets this holiday season.
It will be 2 months spent mounting a legal defense. I doubt he'll have time for much else. Or, he steps down and has Pence pardon him, in which case he can't do anything for that two months.
I'm a lot less worried about Trump himself than I am about the radical right wing terrorist cells that he has been stirring up for the last 4 years, but I think we all understand these people are all talk, and they do talk loudly and publicly, and I have no doubt the FBI is keeping tabs on them.
I agree, this is the crux of my concerns too. I'm not all that worried really about what Trump himself does so long as the results of the loss are proven valid, but the real problem is going to be him inciting his mouth-frothing base to commit violence in his name (without him doing it directly enough to be legally blamed for it, of course). Tempers will be running hot and I unfortunately expect a lot of racial violence to unfold.
Is this something he can actually do?Watch him pardon every federal inmate just to burn the country down.
It is scary and that's valid. Remember though he's in a massive minority. Respected retired military, old republican guard etc. all despise him. His base is dumb and cowardlyi think that's the scary part. he and his base are crazy and won't go quietly.
He wont lose. The mail in ballots will be invalidated and the US will scream and moan but nothing will change. America is Trumps bitch and will stay that way. Its 2020, the worst timeline.
Technically, there aren't any limits on who can be pardon at the federal level. He's already pardoned war criminals.
If it does get to that point where he accepts defeat he will make up a reason why he's resigning so Pence can pardon him because the "deep state" will be coming for him.
Once he has definitively lost, and we're in the lame duck session, if he was smart he'd resign, and try to have Pence preemptively pardon him.
He's a moron and a narcissistic sociopath, so I generally doubt he would do that.
But who knows what he's willing to do to avoid the potential prosecution and jail time, once it is conclusive that he lost.
It will be 2 months spent mounting a legal defense. I doubt he'll have time for much else. Or, he steps down and has Pence pardon him, in which case he can't do anything for that two months.
I'm a lot less worried about Trump himself than I am about the radical right wing terrorist cells that he has been stirring up for the last 4 years, but I think we all understand these people are all talk, and they do talk loudly and publicly, and I have no doubt the FBI is keeping tabs on them.
dream scenario, he abdicates the throne and pence pardons him and it all looks shitty to everyone except the most die hard trumpers, who lets be honest, even if putin said "trump is an assett" they'd stay on
What the fuck?In the HBO miniseries Years & Years, heon his last day in office. Obviously that's really dramatic, but this presidency has been stranger than fiction at every turn.nukes china
Like that is what scares me more than anything, what's he gonna do. The thought of him trying to take us down with him... terrifies me.
You really can't underestimate just how tired Americans are of Trump. Even people voting for him want him to disappear.
I don't know what he will do but expect the vast majority to have a really unpleasant reaction to it.
Also the Trump name is thoroughly fucked, and for a company that relies so much on it, he going to have a rough time.
I dont see this... I feel that this Republican admin was dumb enough to telegraph this intent, but future Repub admins wont....
The telegraphing I think massively boosted early voting and in person ballot dropping nationwide. You have sports stadiums becoming voting locations and more. Trump and his team fucked it up by yelling their plans so loud that millions took precautions...
I dont think the next time Republicans try this will be the same. I think theyll be quiet if given the chance then try this shit at the buzzer after the votes are already cast.