Does anyone know if the new display will be compatible with Windows laptops too? I'm assuming it should be, wondering if HDMI to USB C cables will work.
Does anyone know if the new display will be compatible with Windows laptops too? I'm assuming it should be, wondering if HDMI to USB C cables will work.
Thanks. In which case I'll likely avoid it. I use both Windows and Macs, so need something that'll play well with both. I'll stick to my Dell monitor for now.It's probably going to be like the XDR display.
You won't be able to access all the features and settings from windows.
There might be a workaround now but when the XDR released it was seriously hindered on Windows.
Thanks. In which case I'll likely avoid it. I use both Windows and Macs, so need something that'll play well with both. I'll stick to my Dell monitor for now.
Best Buy also had a couple of configurations available when they were sold out everywhere else.
Thanks again. I'll wait for the reviews. In fact I may end up buying a bigger screen, perhaps a nice 32 or 34".I that case it's likely fine. On the XDR you needed a Mac to change between picture profiles for example and you could only change the brightness on Windows.
If you have a Mac at hand it won't hurt that much, but I would wait for a review because going by the specs it doesn't look that hot for the price.
Roughly speaking, the Mac Studio consists of 5500 Duct Tape Gamecubes. (114 billion versus 21 million transistors). The number of transistors is not a good measure, but the order of magnitude should be the same. So the Mac Studio is 3 orders of magnitude more powerful and the upcoming Mac Pro could be 4 orders of magnitude more powerful.
I don't see how the screen tech is wasted. It's amazing for watching movies/videos with HDR, it's great for smooth scrolling, it's good for video editing. As far as I can tell, allowing full MacOS wouldn't do anything for the screen. Except let you make it look worse by running it at a lower resolution In screen preferences.After moving to a Surface Pro from an Ipad I really wish Apple would just follow that hybrid approach. It's a shame that these awesome chips are wasted on iPadOS. Same for the awesome screen tech they use.
Them saying "that's everything upgraded to the M1 family, except the Mac Pro" was pretty eye opening. Considering the last three places I've worked have been almost entirely 27" iMac machines.
I guess people can get the iMac 24", or a studio monitor + Mac mini to meet the same needs.
But it's interesting to me that the standard 'studio workhorse' iMac 27s direct replacement seems to be modular, and more expensive. $4000 minimum (if getting the apple official keyboard and mouse at $300).
With macOS running on Apple silicon, honestly they should make an iPhone dock that turns your phone into a Mac desktop. It'd have to be expensive to justify the risk of potentially cannibalizing Mac sales, but I'd buy one in a heartbeat so long as it was reasonably cheaper than a Mac Mini.After moving to a Surface Pro from an Ipad I really wish Apple would just follow that hybrid approach. It's a shame that these awesome chips are wasted on iPadOS. Same for the awesome screen tech they use.
I don't see how the screen tech is wasted. It's amazing for watching movies/videos with HDR, it's great for smooth scrolling, it's good for video editing. As far as I can tell, allowing full MacOS wouldn't do anything for the screen. Except let you make it look worse by running it at a lower resolution In screen preferences.
With macOS running on Apple silicon, honestly they should make an iPhone dock that turns your phone into a Mac desktop. It'd have to be expensive to justify the risk of potentially cannibalizing Mac sales, but I'd buy one in a heartbeat so long as it was reasonably cheaper than a Mac Mini.
Them saying "that's everything upgraded to the M1 family, except the Mac Pro" was pretty eye opening. Considering the last three places I've worked have been almost entirely 27" iMac machines.
I guess people can get the iMac 24", or a studio monitor + Mac mini to meet the same needs.
But it's interesting to me that the standard 'studio workhorse' iMac 27s direct replacement seems to be modular, and more expensive. $4000 minimum (if getting the apple official keyboard and mouse at $300).
I messed up while writing that. I mean I wanted those screens on a Surface or a device that was more flexible software wise. Sorry.
I really like what Samsung and Microsoft are trying with their hybrid approach. Apple wants you to have several devices and while I see the advantages I really like having one device and it makes me more "productive" since I can just quickly do something if I want to instead of having to go and grab a laptop.
I would switch to an iPad if that were available. On the other hand, looking at other OS like Windows trying to fill the gap for both devicedesign or some Android distros. They're better off sticking with two different operating systems.Honestly, the "only" thing iPad OS is missing (aside for proper window management) is a usable Files app that's closer to a computer device rather than a mobile device, then API hooks so apps can connect to it to save/load stuff in a more intuitive way without having to invoke something as convoluted as Share -> Files in order to save files locally or on iCloud, or being able to load files saved by other apps. Being completely open to Mac apps outside of a store or turning the iPad into a proper coding machine is something that we all know is never happening since they want people buying an iPhone, iPad AND Mac, though.
Them saying "that's everything upgraded to the M1 family, except the Mac Pro" was pretty eye opening. Considering the last three places I've worked have been almost entirely 27" iMac machines.
I guess people can get the iMac 24", or a studio monitor + Mac mini to meet the same needs.
But it's interesting to me that the standard 'studio workhorse' iMac 27s direct replacement seems to be modular, and more expensive. $4000 minimum (if getting the apple official keyboard and mouse at $300).
Correct. Sorry!People probably already mentioned this but I need to choose either a stand OR a vesa mount for the Studio Display?
Honestly, the "only" thing iPad OS is missing (aside for proper window management) is a usable Files app that's closer to a computer device rather than a mobile device, then API hooks so apps can connect to it to save/load stuff in a more intuitive way without having to invoke something as convoluted as Share -> Files in order to save files locally or on iCloud outside of their own private walled and unacessible space, or being able to load files saved by other apps. Being completely open to Mac apps outside of a store or turning the iPad into a proper coding machine is something that we all know is never happening since they want people buying an iPhone, iPad AND Mac, though.
The thing is that being open is what I want lol also, non full screen apps would be nice. The fact that every app needs to account for touch also sucks.
The thing is that Apple already has an operating system that does the things I want, is MacOS. They just don't want to turn iPadOS into that or have that into an iPad.
I'll be interested to see how the graphics perform when reviewers get their hands on them. The Studio Display is definitely in my future. I suspect a Studio Ultra is, too, once all my essential software is Arm-native.If only gaming would come to MacOS I'd be all over this Mac Studio.
I guess I'm not talking about what competes as much as what's the default buy now for a "studio" that would typically buy a 27 inch iMac "'complete computer in a box" capable of medium workloads.Honestly though, the Mac Studio competes with the iMac Pro, not the 27" iMac. An iMac Pro with Xeon, 32GB RAM and 1TB SSD was about $4999. If you go for the base Mac Studio with 32GB and 1TB plus a Studio Display, it's $3798.
I guess I'm not talking about what competes as much as what's the default buy now for a "studio" that would typically buy a 27 inch iMac "'complete computer in a box" capable of medium workloads.
Like I said, these machines are by far the most common machine I've seen in studios using something like creative suite for the last decade plus.
Prior to yesterday the purchasing advice would be "wait for the 27 inch m1 iMac"
But after yesterday, with no 27 reveal, and the words at the end alluding to only the Mac Pro being unaddressed, it's a little bit on a weird spot. Now to replace this workhorse you are either downgrading the screen to a 24 inch or getting some kind of Studio Monitor + Mac Mini + keyboard + mouse combination separately? Even if I personally like the modular nature, it's not as elegant a solution for the average consumer.
Apple seems to have little interest in going after that market, even though now they have the machines to really do it justice.If only gaming would come to MacOS I'd be all over this Mac Studio.
I'd go for something bigger if I were you. I like what they are doing, but a 27" 5k panel is not ideal. If I were in the market, this would be an easy pass.Thanks again. I'll wait for the reviews. In fact I may end up buying a bigger screen, perhaps a nice 32 or 34".
And GameCubes were just G3s….
Holy shit Apple is buying Nintendo.
With WFH webcams are now a big deal for a lot of people.If anyone is tempted to get that 27" 5k monitor, just realize that for the same price or less, you could get a 49" Samsung ultrawide curved monitor with 1000 nits HDR, 5120x1440 with support for 120hz or 240hz refresh. And it works just fine with Apple devices (I use mine with last year's Macbook Pro M1 Max). The only thing you are missing out on is a built-in webcam.
Sure, not everyone needs such a crazy huge monitor, but it's just to put the price in perspective.
If anyone is tempted to get that 27" 5k monitor, just realize that for the same price or less, you could get a 49" Samsung ultrawide curved monitor with 1000 nits HDR, 5120x1440 with support for 120hz or 240hz refresh. And it works just fine with Apple devices (I use mine with last year's Macbook Pro M1 Max). The only thing you are missing out on is a built-in webcam.
Sure, not everyone needs such a crazy huge monitor, but it's just to put the price in perspective.
Yeah, but a webcam is cheap, attaches to the top of the monitor, and doesn't need to be built-in. I have a really nice Dell 4k webcam I use, I think it cost $150. Really the biggest thing you get from using Apple's monitor is aesthetics - and for some people that's important, but in my book, if you are staring at your screen for hours, it better be a damn nice display.With WFH webcams are now a big deal for a lot of people.
I do agree that the monitor seems pretty expensive though. Especially if you don't need the webcam.
You make a lot of good points but in Apples defense one of the things you buy their products for is the seamless integration.Yeah, but a webcam is cheap, attaches to the top of the monitor, and doesn't need to be built-in. I have a really nice Dell 4k webcam I use, I think it cost $150. Really the biggest thing you get from using Apple's monitor is aesthetics - and for some people that's important, but in my book, if you are staring at your screen for hours, it better be a damn nice display.
I guess they figure at this point most people may already have them so they keep them optional extras. I don't really need either, but wouldn't mind the new keyboard.You make a lot of good points but in Apples defense one of the things you buy their products for is the seamless integration.
It is still nice that you can pick the monitor you want.
Strange it doesn't come with a mouse and keyboard though. For $2000 give me a magic trackpad (would rather nothing than the magic mouse).
I think it has always been like this? Mac Mini / Mac Pro no input devices while iMacs come with mouse + keyboard (the 24" still does).I guess they figure at this point most people may already have them so they keep them optional extras. I don't really need either, but wouldn't mind the new keyboard.
With macOS running on Apple silicon, honestly they should make an iPhone dock that turns your phone into a Mac desktop. It'd have to be expensive to justify the risk of potentially cannibalizing Mac sales, but I'd buy one in a heartbeat so long as it was reasonably cheaper than a Mac Mini.
I messed up while writing that. I mean I wanted those screens on a Surface or a device that was more flexible software wise. Sorry.
I really like what Samsung and Microsoft are trying with their hybrid approach. Apple wants you to have several devices and while I see the advantages I really like having one device and it makes me more "productive" since I can just quickly do something if I want to instead of having to go and grab a laptop.
I assume at least part of the holdup is that running two OSs on 64GB devices would be hideous from a usability perspective 32GB partitions stinks. Restricting dual booting to say the iPad Pro line could work, but it comes with some weird complications.Honestly, the "only" thing iPad OS is missing (aside for proper window management) is a usable Files app that's closer to a computer device rather than a mobile device, then API hooks so apps can connect to it to save/load stuff in a more intuitive way without having to invoke something as convoluted as Share -> Files in order to save files locally or on iCloud outside of their own private walled and unacessible space, or being able to load files saved by other apps. Being completely open to Mac apps outside of a store or turning the iPad into a proper coding machine is something that we all know is never happening since they want people buying an iPhone, iPad AND Mac, though.
It's not listed on the site anymore so it looks like the Mac Studio plus the Studio Display is the 27" iMac replacement.
I don't think that they should straight up port MacOS to the iPad. But iPad OS fucking needs more love. My M1 iPad Pro is faster than my desktop (I think) and all I get is a fucking joke version of Lightroom for example. Now that it' will be all ARM at some point there has to be a way to let us install MacOS apps. Like it's already happening the other way around, when you install iOS apps on M1 Macs.I assume at least part of the holdup is that running two OSs on 64GB devices would be hideous from a usability perspective. Restricting dual booting to say the iPad Pro line could work, but it comes with some weird complications.
Perhaps Apple could swap to a MacOS GUI layer when an iDevice is connected to a display/mouse, but how much work is that for what is probably a small audience.
Still all of the pieces are there with M1, I personally would love to use my iPad Pro in a dual configuration, but Ive been stumped about how to imagine it gracefully.