personally I want a third person perspective and the type of platforming and powers that can come from that and I want a game focused on exploration and atmosphere rather than the absolute mess of Other M
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Acclaimed games that “alienated” you from a franchise you liked
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personally I want a third person perspective and the type of platforming and powers that can come from that and I want a game focused on exploration and atmosphere rather than the absolute mess of Other M
I'm also a big fan of Persona 2 IS and EP all the way down to 4. I don't like the way the series is going forward and I'm scared for SMT main series' future.
Another vote for Breath of the Wild, for all the reasons already mentioned.
The fact that they may be reusing the same map for the sequel does actually give me some hope that they'll focus more on things OTHER than just the open world; using that map and mechanics as the backdrop and then building a traditional Zelda game on top of it would be amazing. The problem with BotW was that all there was was the backdrop.
The fact that they may be reusing the same map for the sequel does actually give me some hope that they'll focus more on things OTHER than just the open world; using that map and mechanics as the backdrop and then building a traditional Zelda game on top of it would be amazing. The problem with BotW was that all there was was the backdrop.
Tomb Raider (2013): This game simply proved that the developers have another vision for the games (And seeing dwindling sales, neither do many people), one I'm not interested in. I have to admit I still had some kind of hope they were just inexperienced from Legend to Underworld.
Nope, they double down on the most uninteresting aspects of their first post-AoD reboot. It's a Prince of Persia/Uncharted pastiche now, with WRPG elements, collectibles, an even more bland storyline, and a completely unrelatable and unlikeable main character to boot. Plus they got rid of everything iconic on Lara Croft. From twin pistols to her color scheme. That was like dressing Mario in a gray tunic and still promising his Cap after three origin games, all while putting him in a walking simulator.
At this point, I hope another dev, any other dev, come in and interpret Tomb Raider however they want. Classic TR is not coming back.
So give us a spectacular disaster or something. But new and fresh.
Nope, they double down on the most uninteresting aspects of their first post-AoD reboot. It's a Prince of Persia/Uncharted pastiche now, with WRPG elements, collectibles, an even more bland storyline, and a completely unrelatable and unlikeable main character to boot. Plus they got rid of everything iconic on Lara Croft. From twin pistols to her color scheme. That was like dressing Mario in a gray tunic and still promising his Cap after three origin games, all while putting him in a walking simulator.
At this point, I hope another dev, any other dev, come in and interpret Tomb Raider however they want. Classic TR is not coming back.
So give us a spectacular disaster or something. But new and fresh.
I was initially put off by Metal Gear Solid 2 and Final Fantasy X in 2001... but after actually giving them a chance 4-5 years later, I discovered they're both great games. Being a baby over not getting exactly what you want, getting in the way of recognizing well-made games, is something one can grow out of. There's hope.
Also, I don't understand how anyone could like Resident Evil 7 but not REmake 2, or vice versa. /boggle
They're both fuckin' delightful, and two of my favorite games of the last 5 years, along with other things people are bringing up... MGSV, Sekiro...
My biggest let down this gen was Persona 5. It's not bad, but I put a lot of value on pacing... and this game's is HORRENDOUS (along with a number of smaller issues).
I'm looking forward to finally playing BotW, probably liking it quite a bit, and then being even more confused by other people's tastes.
Also, I don't understand how anyone could like Resident Evil 7 but not REmake 2, or vice versa. /boggle
They're both fuckin' delightful, and two of my favorite games of the last 5 years, along with other things people are bringing up... MGSV, Sekiro...
My biggest let down this gen was Persona 5. It's not bad, but I put a lot of value on pacing... and this game's is HORRENDOUS (along with a number of smaller issues).
I'm looking forward to finally playing BotW, probably liking it quite a bit, and then being even more confused by other people's tastes.
im not saying persona 5 is a departure because in many ways it is a natural progression of 4, but for me it was like hitting a brick wall to the extent that im probably done with persona period
honestly pokemon sun moon would also count for this but i want to see what the series is like on switch. if i feel just as bad about sword and shield well, guess i am also done with mainline pokemon
so it goes
worth noting i havent liked a single player final fantasy since 12 came out because i hate 12 and have zero interest in 13 or 15 but i still would give the series a chance if a new game were a bit more classic. that being said i may be asking for something ridiculous, because if the series is more successful now than ever, i doubt it will be getting back to the way i would prefer
honestly pokemon sun moon would also count for this but i want to see what the series is like on switch. if i feel just as bad about sword and shield well, guess i am also done with mainline pokemon
so it goes
worth noting i havent liked a single player final fantasy since 12 came out because i hate 12 and have zero interest in 13 or 15 but i still would give the series a chance if a new game were a bit more classic. that being said i may be asking for something ridiculous, because if the series is more successful now than ever, i doubt it will be getting back to the way i would prefer
Final Fantasy might be the biggest one. FFXIII is what did it. I just don't see hope for the franchise going for. XIII was the first bad game in the franchise to me. I've played every FF and XIII was just legitimately bad as a game and especially rpg by my definition of the standard. I didn't get XIII-2, or LR, and skipped XIV initially. I got XV and while I thought it was a step up from XIII (anything is tbh) it still ultimately left me cold. I'm not hopeful at all for the franchise and there's no XVI to look forward to. People keep telling me to play XIV though, and I'm considering just that but I worry how long it'll take to catch up since I'm starting so late in the game.
BOTW
Hopefully they evolve it and take some of the criticisms to heart. The combat needs a MAJOR update as it was really bad in BOTW. Im really hoping BOTW2 is amazing.
- Poor combat in comparison to Wind Waker and TP
- Poor and short dungeons
- Lack of enemies
- Meaningless exploration
- Barren
- Poor story
- Felt like a tech demo
Hopefully they evolve it and take some of the criticisms to heart. The combat needs a MAJOR update as it was really bad in BOTW. Im really hoping BOTW2 is amazing.
Final Fantasy VIII.
I hated the game play and worse I hated the main character Squall. He was not remotely likeable. Why anyone would want to be buds or think he was a leader is beyond me. The guy is a class a douche bag at best and I never before in FF wanted to kill the main character more than I wanted to kill him. Anyone else would have been a better choice. The romance stunk too.
I hated the game play and worse I hated the main character Squall. He was not remotely likeable. Why anyone would want to be buds or think he was a leader is beyond me. The guy is a class a douche bag at best and I never before in FF wanted to kill the main character more than I wanted to kill him. Anyone else would have been a better choice. The romance stunk too.
this very rarely happens to me (I love all of the experimentation in FF and Zelda) but Paper Mario Color Splash did manage to push me away. Sticker Star I was fine with, I just viewed that as a one-off, but when they basically continued down that road? I was done. Even the writing, which a lot of people seem to like, really irritated me and didn't feel like it belonged in Paper Mario.
I agree. In first-person, you simply are going to make compromises with the platforming that is associated with Metroid too. Prime is probably my pick too.
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I honestly think Color Splash has a worse battle system than Sticker Star. Can't believe how hard it is to just do a single normal attack in that game.
Paper Jam. Not due to it stripping out the character, but because it became rather trite, and rather resentful in the long run that it wasn't the series chosen to be the experimental vs Paper Mario. In a weird way, it's the polar opposite of how I feel about Pokemon, where I feel like it shouldve done more to retain features, Mario and Luigi shouldve done away with mechanics that felt more like a one time mechanic.
Batman Arkham series: Origins being incomplete on Wii U damaged it in my eyes, but I wasnt a fan of Knight's mechanics. The Riddler requirements killed my desire to really touch the series anymore.
Actually, Wii U's gamepad requirement ruined Color Splash for me
Pokemon is almost at the break off point.
I don't drop off of series too much otherwise.
Batman Arkham series: Origins being incomplete on Wii U damaged it in my eyes, but I wasnt a fan of Knight's mechanics. The Riddler requirements killed my desire to really touch the series anymore.
Actually, Wii U's gamepad requirement ruined Color Splash for me
Pokemon is almost at the break off point.
I don't drop off of series too much otherwise.
This is true and it's why Color Splash was even worse than Sticker Star for me. The combat couldn't be any worse.
"My favorite niche character didn't get in so fuck the entire thing"
The microtransactions and loot boxes in Gears 4 ruined the series for me, and I was a diehard Gears3 player.
The hero from DQ is a "very recent" character?
DQ is more important to Japanese game history than just about every series represented in Smash— full stop.
"I might look find but I'm not well...
"Cause I'm in hell..."
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I was talking about Joker when talking about recent character. If you read my posts in Smash threads over the last year, I always said Dragon Quest was the most deserving third party possible by its historical significancy to japanese gaming, its genre and even pop media culture (the whole hero/yuusha vs demon lord/maou thing). I always pick 1st party over 3rd for a slot, but if I had to give it to a 3rd party one it would be DQ. I even called the Hero thing back then.
It didn't happen all in one go, but the combination of Fallout 3 / 4 and 76 have killed any love I once had for the Fallout franchise forever. Also freed me from forcing myself through the TES games that I've never liked just because I wanted to see how the tech / studio was going in their work.
I honestly do not understand the Uncharted 3 hate. I loved the more personal focus on Drake, as well as the desert theme. I found the story very interesting personally, and nothing about it seemed like that egregious of a departure from 1 & 2.
As for my answer: Gears of War 2. I was already kinda "meh" on it as I played it, hoping it would get better. Then there was this action sequence where you had to get a worm thing to break open part of a cave wall so you could drive through it to proceed. Well, the worm came and -- nothing, no broken wall. Tried reloading previous saves several times and same result. Later I read online that you had to restart the mission completely to get past it. Since I was already not enamored with it, I just said "Screw it!" and stopped playing. Haven't touched a GrsoW game since.
As for my answer: Gears of War 2. I was already kinda "meh" on it as I played it, hoping it would get better. Then there was this action sequence where you had to get a worm thing to break open part of a cave wall so you could drive through it to proceed. Well, the worm came and -- nothing, no broken wall. Tried reloading previous saves several times and same result. Later I read online that you had to restart the mission completely to get past it. Since I was already not enamored with it, I just said "Screw it!" and stopped playing. Haven't touched a GrsoW game since.