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You're never forced to patch, you can cancel the patch install but you'll need to make sure you turn off automatic updates as well. You'll be missing the day one patch though and any fixes that contained. I'd try the game with the latest patch first and if you really think you'll notice a difference after trying it, just reinstall from the disc fresh.
That's about what you'd expect given the resolution the Series X and PS5 run at.
Loaded up the game on PS5 and I don't notice any frame rate drops so far. Seems perfectly fine to me. Took a torch out and it's still fine.
It's totally ridiculous that when you switch between quality and performance mode the game has to load entirely from the beginning, back to opening title screens. I expected having to reload the checkpoint at worse.
It's totally ridiculous that when you switch between quality and performance mode the game has to load entirely from the beginning, back to opening title screens. I expected having to reload the checkpoint at worse.
That's a bit unfair. People paid money for it, why do they get saddled with the burden of something Ubi didn't do well?
It's like when a developer goes through hell to get a game done, it doesn't review well, and they complain and bring up why and want review scores changed. Doesn't ultimately matter things got shitty, a consumer pays for that game regardless.
Either have a patch that works or don't have it. Not so different to release the game when it's ready, or don't.
Anybody else playing this game on PS5 with the PS4 physical copy?
I'm having a problem where EVERY SINGLE TIME I turn on the PS5, it starts to copy the PS4 edition of the game from the disc. Every time. And I have to go into the downloads list and cancel the install. I don't get it.
Edit: I just clicked to unfollow the PS4 version that shows up every time I turn the system on, and it seems to have maybe fixed the issue? At least it's not installing this time when I turned the system on. So that's promising.
I'm having a problem where EVERY SINGLE TIME I turn on the PS5, it starts to copy the PS4 edition of the game from the disc. Every time. And I have to go into the downloads list and cancel the install. I don't get it.
Edit: I just clicked to unfollow the PS4 version that shows up every time I turn the system on, and it seems to have maybe fixed the issue? At least it's not installing this time when I turned the system on. So that's promising.
Not right now while prices are still high, but if it becomes within means to get a VRR-compatible display sometime down the road, I do highly recommend it if your display is going to be used mostly for gaming. It's been a killer feature for years on PC and it saves some of the odd little quirks with this game and has the potential to save others down the line, too.
Just like PC, I would not mind "VRR Performance" modes where it's tuned to just run kinda rampant above 60fps. On my gaming laptop (which has a FreeSync display), running Doom Eternal with gradual fluctuations between 80fps and 120fps (the display's max) is pretty damn sublime and it looks and feels completely solid with VRR engaged. You can still feel really harsh dips, like if the reduction from 120 to 80fps in Doom Eternal was instantaneous and not gradual it'd be very noticeable, but since it isn't, it feels like I'm just playing a consistently smooth game. I have a similar experience with Gears 5 on my laptop as well, which runs anywhere between 60fps and 85fps on near max settings (1080p) -- completely feels smooth and consistent thanks the VRR, despite the fluctuations.
AC Valhalla on Xbox Series X looks and feels fine other than cutscene stutter, before and after this patch, to me because I'm playing on an LG CX. It is a premium display with a premium price, but do investigate options in your budget later down the road when it inevitably becomes more affordable -- it's such a great feature for gaming.
Just like PC, I would not mind "VRR Performance" modes where it's tuned to just run kinda rampant above 60fps. On my gaming laptop (which has a FreeSync display), running Doom Eternal with gradual fluctuations between 80fps and 120fps (the display's max) is pretty damn sublime and it looks and feels completely solid with VRR engaged. You can still feel really harsh dips, like if the reduction from 120 to 80fps in Doom Eternal was instantaneous and not gradual it'd be very noticeable, but since it isn't, it feels like I'm just playing a consistently smooth game. I have a similar experience with Gears 5 on my laptop as well, which runs anywhere between 60fps and 85fps on near max settings (1080p) -- completely feels smooth and consistent thanks the VRR, despite the fluctuations.
AC Valhalla on Xbox Series X looks and feels fine other than cutscene stutter, before and after this patch, to me because I'm playing on an LG CX. It is a premium display with a premium price, but do investigate options in your budget later down the road when it inevitably becomes more affordable -- it's such a great feature for gaming.
This is stupid shit. I get around this by literally having an external hard drive, filling it up enough so there's not enough room to install AC Valhalla PS4 version, and setting my PS5 to install PS4 games to external drive. Then I just get an error message saying not enough room to install rather than it trying to install the stupid game. Sony should really fix this problem. Have the PS5 version install a dummy 5mb PS4 install or something for the check, I don't know.
can automatic updates on PS5 be disabled on a game-by-game basis? Or will I have to shut off updates for everything, or just deny the patch each time I play?
Please stop trying to be rationale about titles and systems that are two weeks old!
Then why not leave the game the way it was before on PS5? Why bother "optimizing" the PS5 version only to make it worse? What's the point?
So do you both think the sort of near parity we're seeing in multi-platform games between the two systems is likely to change? Or just that in future the PS5 will never have the better version?
Because my guess is that the rest of the gen we'll likely see similar differences between versions as these launch titles, eg minor differences with advantages alternating between either platform (though in future potentially more titles likely going in favour of the XSX, maybe lol).
I legitimately feel like the audio is even worse after this patch
NPCs are either insanely quiet or so loud it blows out my headphones, the quality is absolutely horrid, the mixing is legitimately the worst I have EVER heard in a AAA game.
This is straight up unacceptable. Has Ubi even acknowledged that it's a problem? I don't think I'm going to make it through this game unless they fix it. I can't enjoy this game with headphones when I have to turn up the volume to hear NPCs just to have my ears blown out by a wolf barking and not even being able to tell where it's from because the directional audio is completely fucking busted.
NPCs are either insanely quiet or so loud it blows out my headphones, the quality is absolutely horrid, the mixing is legitimately the worst I have EVER heard in a AAA game.
This is straight up unacceptable. Has Ubi even acknowledged that it's a problem? I don't think I'm going to make it through this game unless they fix it. I can't enjoy this game with headphones when I have to turn up the volume to hear NPCs just to have my ears blown out by a wolf barking and not even being able to tell where it's from because the directional audio is completely fucking busted.
Frame rate analysis within a matter of minutes from console captures?
I am sure you are discounting the extraordinary hard work and time which goes into this, please stop marking down the effort it takes to make such analysis.
Been trying to calmly say this in all the threads all week. We'll have zero idea how these consoles can perform for 6+ months.
It seems clear MS has some tools issues and also a bunch of cross gen games came out during a global pandemic. Like did we benchmark PS4 or Xbone capabilities off of Black Flag?
They are both very very capable boxes and I am enjoying my time with both of them.
The only real lesson of the early launch is PS5 needs that VRR stat. I've been playing this game since launch and it's butter smooth on my CX despite being a year fest on the XSX.
Of course, it was a figure of speech. My meaning was that you just play a few segments of the game with the frame rate analysis readings on (exactly as these YouTube channels have been doing), and if the performance is notably worse (eg drops to 40fps where previously there were none), you simply don't release the patch. The act of doing this with the subsequent gear, isn't something that should be beyond the purview of Ubisofts QA testing, obviously.
Digital Foundry covered this in their analysis, I think the Series X version has some weird camera frame timing glitch. Surprised they didn't sort it in this patch, bit afaik it isn't performance related.
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The cutscenes have to be a weird bug. It's the only stutter I have on my CX77 with VRR. I'm guessing it's loading assets in the background or dropping frames or something real weird. Unless the FPS is hitting sub 40FPS which it shouldn't given that these scenes are often less taxing than gameplay.
This game is an absolute mess, glad I returned my copy last week.
Making the sound quality even worse somehow would be impressive.
Making the sound quality even worse somehow would be impressive.
Right now, I'm glad I'm just renting from Gamefly. Besides, with the current situation, I don't want to give Ubisoft my money.
Maybe something specific to headphones? Played for a few hours today and didn't notice any audio differences, though I'm just using the speakers on my TV.
It very well could be, and that could explain why this doesn't seem to be as widespread as an issue as it'd seem to me. There's quite a few threads on reddit, but as far as I've seen Ubi hasn't even acknowledged it's an issue.
Odyssey didn't have this issue though. Valhalla is so bad with headphones that it's almost unplayable for me. Everything keeps throwing me off. And I'm not an audiophile by any means. I'm on PC and I don't have speakers, so... welp.
Wow, while I'm obviously not glad this has happened, it's made me reconsider my purchase to 'some time in the future' when all this performance crap is resolved satisfactorily.
So, couple questions:
1. Has DF/anyone else told us what relative settings the XSX/PS5 version used compared to PC graphical options? The game runs better for me post patch on PC and looks as good at 1440p as XSX does at 4k, with better shadows, et al.
2. Is the tearing issue not very obvious early in the game? I am literally like 30 minutes in and I just keep wandering around the opening province testing stuff because I can't decide what platform to play on. I notice very little tearing on my budget TCL 4k gaming TV, and (of course) absolutely none on my LG OLED. HDR is strangely overpowering bright though.
Curious if anyone has any info on this stuff. I actually bought both versions, then rented the disc version from gamefly and did a month of uplay plus on PC (for this and Watch Dogs) to test. So far, I am not actually any closer to deciding what version to play.
Oh - post script though - the cross progression works absolutely flawlessly for me so far - super cool feature. Wish they would include a PC copy with console purchase like MS does - would likely get me to buy digital at full price ASAP if they did instead of getting discs with intent to resell.
1. Has DF/anyone else told us what relative settings the XSX/PS5 version used compared to PC graphical options? The game runs better for me post patch on PC and looks as good at 1440p as XSX does at 4k, with better shadows, et al.
2. Is the tearing issue not very obvious early in the game? I am literally like 30 minutes in and I just keep wandering around the opening province testing stuff because I can't decide what platform to play on. I notice very little tearing on my budget TCL 4k gaming TV, and (of course) absolutely none on my LG OLED. HDR is strangely overpowering bright though.
Curious if anyone has any info on this stuff. I actually bought both versions, then rented the disc version from gamefly and did a month of uplay plus on PC (for this and Watch Dogs) to test. So far, I am not actually any closer to deciding what version to play.
Oh - post script though - the cross progression works absolutely flawlessly for me so far - super cool feature. Wish they would include a PC copy with console purchase like MS does - would likely get me to buy digital at full price ASAP if they did instead of getting discs with intent to resell.
I find it ironic that the Series S is now the best performing version when many used this game as "evidence" the Series S would hold back this generation or not be able to maintain framerate parity.
Really impressed by how stable the 60fps mode is on Series S. The PS5 version will definitely get patched, we know it's capable of a lot more.
Really impressed by how stable the 60fps mode is on Series S. The PS5 version will definitely get patched, we know it's capable of a lot more.
The only problem I have with the game and I believe with the update is just the audio the dialogue sounds so low and the sounds for an attack just doesnt seem loud enough. They really got fix that, same problem in Odyssey
My audio just completely died when I went into photo mode. Came back out and audio didn't come back. Ran around for about 5 seconds and then the game completely hardlocked. Had to go into task manager just to be able to close it.
All good on my end. No major performance boost though, maybe 5fps more on average?
People should realise the hard job developers have now supporting 6 or so platforms. Making all this stuff run "equally good" on all platforms is a nightmare, everything has dependencies.
Reading your impressions I have a feeling there are 126 versions of this game, based on improved/worse comments.
Uhhh . I think Ubisoft has completely broken the AI in this game for the PC at least ..... Enemy does not react to my stealth, I was able to take out an entire camp because they were just standing still without attacking me despite me walking past them or assasinating people right in front of them. They were in complete unaware phase, even had the same instance with a mission where I had to kill some bears, the bears spawned but were supposed to attack me, but I had to go to them and kill them and they were completely unaware that I was there.
It feels like the previous build was far more stable tbh becaues this just breaks all immersion lol.
It feels like the previous build was far more stable tbh becaues this just breaks all immersion lol.
yeah lol, sure feels like ubi is doing some weird a/b testing with these patches
