Easily. Any game with a cursor benefits quite a bit from high FPS. Playing Slay the Spire with a smooth as fuck mouse cursor at 144 FPS adds more to the experience than one would think.Utter nonsense.
Even freaking Civilization feels better played above 60 fps.
Playing for almost 30 years now. 30 fps makes me a bit uneasy (and it has gotten worse with age) unless it's a very slow-playing game but anything about 45 and up I'm fine. (GSYNC monitor helps). Given that most displays with vsync work with multiples either 30/60/120 without adaptive refresh rate, ya, 60 is about the bare minimum for me.Honest question, how have you been able to play video games as a regular hobby ever if anything below 60 fps makes you sick? Is 30 enough to trigger that, or are you only impacted by frame rates lower than that? And also, it should go without saying that vision related illnesses or things like epilepsy are valid reasons to prefer or require extremely high refresh rates - getting sick is a 100% valid reason. But that's not what I was talking about, I was talking about people who specifically say things like how anything below 60 is a powerpoint presentation and isn't worthy of them. Getting sick and being pretentious aren't the same thing.
same. the 30fps in R&C feels leagues better than the 30fps in Miles and many other games. also nixed the motion blur and the visual clarity is just sublime. i haven't felt the urge to switch to 60fps like i thought i would, and i'm fairly certain the resolution trade off here is worth it depending on your display.So....Rift Apart has me changing my mind on this.
It depends on the game/how its all implemented. The 30fps option in that game is really, really good. I didnt use 60fps once. Only for seeing which to choose.
Miles I chose 60fps for the most part.
30fps, when perfectly stable, is a non-issue. The funny thing is many 30fps games actually have regular framerate fluctuations which makes the whole thing look bad.
second, plus g-sync for me. I'm used to anything over 100 baseline at 1080p. And I still need to upgrade my GPU.
Corporate deals?Except current consoles don't need to sacrifice, if a game is running at 4k and is a decent engine the odds are you just offer a performance mode at 1080/1440p. Last gen metrics don't apply to damn decent and effective consoles this gen. Ratchet shows it's not necessary to sacrifice like other gens, if a dev is badly utilizing this gen it's not on consoles and their potential. Same for forza horizon 5 which should scale insanely across a lot of stuff.
Almost every aspect of console base spec has improved or been improved decently to massively.
You also don't score really good corporate deals either.
it's unthinkable for any genre lmao. sure there are some where 30 can be more tolerable, but 60 still plays better and has better input responseIt is actually incredible that anyone would prefer 30fps to 60fps in an Assassin's Creed game. Like that is just unthinkable to me.
it's unthinkable for any genre lmao. sure there are some where 30 can be more tolerable, but 60 still plays better and has better input response
This always gets me, when people say unlocked >30 FPS is better than 30 FPS. I prefer 60 and up. But if the choice is an unlocked "60" or stable 30 on console, I'll choose 30 because unstable framerates below 60 are the devil.30fps, when perfectly stable, is a non-issue. The funny thing is many 30fps games actually have regular framerate fluctuations which makes the whole thing look bad.
Lol. No regrets
No they aren't you can choose 30 fps native 4k on factions. Uc4 is however. So yeah I play that one at 60.Both those games' multiplayer are locked to 60 (on PS4) though?
Well explain technically what makes 60fps the baseline for acceptable standards and not 30fps.
Motion clarity and responsiveness. But it's all about what each of us are used to really.
In 30fps games on console, even the best implementations of motion blur obscure detail when turning the camera.
And input latency... Some are better than others, but if I told you really every game at 30 fps feels like Read Dead 2 at 30fps to me you'd probably think I'm crazy, but they just feel ridiculously restrictive.
I recently finished Hellblade (really not a fast paced game) and switched back and forth between fps modes, but it felt like the controls were fighting against me at 30fps.
Exactly what I mean. Many '30fps' games aren't even really 30fps.Yup, this here is the problem. 30 games tend to be less stable and have more dips, which is what makes it so jarring.
Honestly 30FPS people remind me of flat earthers. They are dead set in their ways always spouting unwinnable "arguments", when it's a simple fact that 60FPS is better than 30FPS every single time in every single game in every single genre. i mean just look at all the 30fps arguments in this very thread, there isn't A SINGLE ARGUMENT that makes any sense whatsoever.Thread is big ??? energy with the attempts to defend 30fps in The Year of Our LORD Twenty Twenty-One. Are people just interpreting framerate arguments as attacks on Plastic Box and circling the wagons reflexively? That's the only way this makes any sense at all.
"Let me tell you why 30fps is better than 60--" No, this is valuable oxygen so let's not waste it on turning poo thoughts into poo words
Have you ever played any shooter at 30 fps? Especially against others who are at 60 or more? It genuinely ruins the gameplay experience. There's an objective latency, and when you're completely accustomed to faster gameplay and the world not becoming a blur as you turn the camera, it's not enjoyable to play like that. Maybe you're playing animal crossing or a sidescroller but your statement that 30fps is a fine experience, and people who feel otherwise are invalid, is extremely general and just as annoying.Of course 60 fps feels better. But 30 is far from unplayable, and anyone who says 30 is a 'slideshow' or any other such thing is a pretentious, hyperbolic clown who I just cannot take seriously.
Have you ever played any shooter at 30 fps? Especially against others who are at 60 or more? It genuinely ruins the gameplay experience. There's an objective latency, and when you're completely accustomed to faster gameplay and the world not becoming a blur as you turn the camera, it's not enjoyable to play like that. Maybe you're playing animal crossing or a sidescroller but your statement that 30fps is a fine experience, and people who feel otherwise are invalid, is extremely general and just as annoying.
Maybe you're playing animal crossing or a sidescroller but your statement that 30fps is a fine experience, and people who feel otherwise are invalid, is extremely general and just as annoying.
As someone who is now blown away by 60 FPS vs. 30 FPS, I can't even imagine what 120 FPS looks/feels like. I'm going to ask a stupid question here, but is there a "maximum" FPS before things just start looking/feeling absurd?
Yeah this. I really hope a lot of the "60 fps or die"-crowd is joking and over reacting because holy shit, the 60 fps-elite sounds more and more like crazies furiously typing in their "60fps is my baseline and should be the standard in 2021 and if you disagree you are wrong!!1!!"-opinions while foaming at the mouth lol.As always happens with framerate threads, this thread shows how baffingly assholic people can get in Era.
Let people enjoy what they enjoy, for Christs sake
Thread is big ??? energy with the attempts to defend 30fps in The Year of Our LORD Twenty Twenty-One. Are people just interpreting framerate arguments as attacks on Plastic Box and circling the wagons reflexively? That's the only way this makes any sense at all.
Haha, you might be taking this a bit too seriously, Sam. Don't be a jerk. This is still about preference right? 60fps is the best way to play games, as long as it doesn't make some aspects of a certain game look worse.Honestly 30FPS people remind me of flat earthers. They are dead set in their ways always spouting unwinnable "arguments", when it's a simple fact that 60FPS is better than 30FPS every single time in every single game in every single genre. i mean just look at all the 30fps arguments in this very thread, there isn't A SINGLE ARGUMENT that makes any sense whatsoever.