Have the Yankees or Cardinals ever been accused of cheating at an organizational level, in recent history?
Whoa whoa whoa, you're thinking of Joey Cora. You leave my crappy Mariners out of this!Hell if you go way back, Alex Cora waa teammates with Alex Rodriguez in Seattle in the mid-late 90s. Dude always aligns himself with cheaters. /s
real rational reasoningThis is the type of shit that makes me hate Boston/New England and every creature associated with that place.
lord I hate them all so much
No one would stop a Yadi Molina from calling games. It'd be like QBs. Lower tier guys need coach in their ear while for the better ones that coach can instead relay relevant data and information, letting the caller be even more effective.Some catchers are actually really good at calling games though. I don't know if I want Shildt or some assistant calling all of the pitches instead of Molina. So I don't know that just giving them earpieces and having calls come from the dugout is always going to be the best solution.
And there are probably some managers who don't want each pitch of every game to be micromanaged by the staff in that way no matter who is pitching or catching. I don't think you can really compare calling plays in the NFL to calling a pitch in baseball.
No one would stop a Yadi Molina from calling games. It'd be like QBs. Lower tier guys need coach in their ear while for the better ones that coach can instead relay relevant data and information, letting the caller be even more effective.
The redsoxs manager in 2018 Alex Cora was with the Astros in 2017 he was one of the main reasons behind the cheating.Wow. It's the same shit that the Houston Astros were being accused of earlier:
Link.
If this shit is true, then both the Astros & the Red Sox World Series Championships should be stripped & be given to the Dodgers.
The redsoxs manager in 2018 Alex Cora was with the Astros in 2017 he was one of the main reasons behind the cheating.
Have the Yankees or Cardinals ever been accused of cheating at an organizational level, in recent history?
Yes the Yankees were fined for stealing signs in 2017. Fun watching their fans pretend to be victims.Have the Yankees or Cardinals ever been accused of cheating at an organizational level, in recent history?
Lifetime ban for Cora and the Astros and Sox titles should be taken away.
Also if the mariners do this then they're fucking bad at it
The Brewers are cheating and still can't win.Can the Brewers cheat their way to a title already?
Seems like a few people getting fired and loss of a few draft picks would totally be worth it. And that's only if you get caught!
The Brewers are cheating and still can't win.
Every team is doing this, at some point people need to accept the reality of the situation.
Cardinals employed a individual that was caught and punished for improperly accessing the Houston Astros scouting databases on undrafted prospects in 2015.
Cardinals had to pay the Astros 2 million, they lost draft picks and the individual who was responsible for the hacking was banned from baseball for life and got a 46 month federal prison sentence.
Cardinals as an organization was found not to be complicit in his actions.
It's not legal to use technology to steal signs and communicate. It's legal to steal signs just from eyesight and deduction.are there actual rules against sign stealing, or is everyone just salty?
cheating implies there are rules
not that I give a shit why am I posting
Every team in the MLB steals signs. Redsox and Astros just got caught.
fuck dodgers should of been back to back champs fuck bostona and houston..
how does bill billachek keep on getting away with it
I don't know why, I'm sure there was a good amount who wanted him fired after the terrible season the Sox had. Just another manager who wins the World Series and then misses the post season and gets canned.Alex Cora fired
Ha
Listening to the WEEI meltdowns tomorrow morning
Fans already melting
Seems like cheating in the MLB is part of the tradition of the sport... i mean even fans are saying shit like stealing signs isn't cheating
Yeaaaah the "but everyone else is doing it" shit never really does pan out.That's because it is. From doctoring balls, corking bats, taking PEDs etc. Baseball players constantly cheat.
Before I type what I'm about to, I'm going to get it out of the way that I am an Astros' fan. I don't really see this sign stealing thing being a big deal. MLB has cheated since its inception. Just because technology has progressed doesn't make this any more egregious than before. You're still stealing signs. And here's a spoiler....everyone else is too. The Astros and Red Sox just got caught. But I'm willing to bet that if every team were investigated, you would find them doing the same.
Not like players in the 90s were clean either 🤷‍♂️Boston Boston everybody knows all your players were on PED's in 2004. Manny taking crazy women drugs. Ortiz in the Mitchell report. I'm pretty sure every year they won the World Series this millennium they probably cheated.