1917 has to be the most Oscar bait film of 2019
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Trying to sell the movie as some heroic journey is missing the lessons of WWI a bit, doesn't it?
Yeah really didn't care for this. A complete fake of a movie imo.
Strongly disagree, favorite movie of 2019. I was moved to tears twice and was in awe of the entire thing.
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There was that horror film indie film called Silent House, heard things about that
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Weird take. It's a well made movie with a clear purpose. How can you call it style over substance when literally the entire movie is about the two main characters and their mission to save 1600+ lives? You're hating on its immersive single-shot style just because it's unconventional. Cool.
Once again Era confirms movie literacy is at an all time low.
Once again Era confirms movie literacy is at an all time low.
Why would anyone need to justify a device used to create immersion in a war movie? The purpose is self-evident.
Perhaps you mean that you forgot the script along the way. I saw the movie this afternoon, and it doesn't for one second lose sight of the characters' motivations.
One shot fakery actually has the opposite effect, all it does it draw attention to itself
I think what makes it not that oscar baity, is that it's not very actor-centric (similar to Dunkirk). You have to remember that by far the biggest voting block at the Oscars is actors.
When I think of blatant Oscar baits, I think of blandly directed inspirational based-on-a-true-story dramas with BIG performances. So films like King's Speech, Hidden Figures, Ray and The Theory of Everything.
From this year's Oscar hopefuls Ford V Ferrari, Judy, Bombshell, A Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood and Just Mercy feel like the most Oscar-baity.
When I think of blatant Oscar baits, I think of blandly directed inspirational based-on-a-true-story dramas with BIG performances. So films like King's Speech, Hidden Figures, Ray and The Theory of Everything.
From this year's Oscar hopefuls Ford V Ferrari, Judy, Bombshell, A Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood and Just Mercy feel like the most Oscar-baity.
I genuinely believe it has more heart and human emotion than any movie I've seen in the past few years. Deakins is getting a lot of deserved praise, but I think the technical achievements getting so much attention has overshadowed just how moving the performances--especially from George Mackay--are.
Great movie Imo, probably is my favorite of the year alongside parasite. I don't understand how else this movie could be marketed or get any money other than being released in Oscar season.
I do think it does a lot of intentional simple things that don't make it stand out all that much and almost predictable when you notice whether it was the one shot, the quite moment -> hey its this actor -> action scene -> quite moment -> action scene -> quiet moment -> hey its this guy etc it was still good enough for me to enjoy it, and far from the typical oscar bait. I hope this movie becomes the standard for Oscar bait if its going to be called Oscar bait
I do think it does a lot of intentional simple things that don't make it stand out all that much and almost predictable when you notice whether it was the one shot, the quite moment -> hey its this actor -> action scene -> quite moment -> action scene -> quiet moment -> hey its this guy etc it was still good enough for me to enjoy it, and far from the typical oscar bait. I hope this movie becomes the standard for Oscar bait if its going to be called Oscar bait
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The motivations were there but rather not fleshed out enough to care enough or serve an impact as was intended, more rather oh yeah, they're dead, well that sucks.
Comes back to having to move onto the next thing and to keep moving forward, even at the sacrifice from giving the characters more time to give the viewer a reason to care, again it's probably just the effect of the one take editing style I would assume.
I thought it was okay, but definitely not Oscar worthy. Parasite losing to this film in any category is legit xenophobia.
I'm honestly surprised George Mackay isn't getting Best Actor buzz. It's a stacked year but I thought he did a wonderful job, especially acting so much of the film through facial expressions.
that's the whole point, death is completely unceremonious in this as the heroes, and the war, carry on their path
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For it to be realistic, there were a couple of instances that just takes you out of the film due to some of the terrible choices that the characters perform.
that's a different point I guess, I thought some of their acts of valour were a bit weird but it speaks to their naivety so I can easily look beyond it...your initial point I thought was just about how death was depicted in the film
Hate it or love it, it's pretty central to how Birdman works and the penultimate moment of that movie wouldn't have really happened without it
Oscar bait is stupid,
Ah yes, you must be a professional on how someone should act in the middle of a war
Ah yes, you must be a professional on how someone should act in the middle of a war
I enjoyed it a ton, though I also see how other people are just writing it off as a stunt rather than an actual film. It's gorgeous, and I think the central gimmick works for the story that the movie is telling. It's about the experience of war on the individual, so it justifies the need to tell it in real time. The trickery is noticable, but I didn't really mark that as a negative.
It's also a pretty solid script, humanizing its' heroes through subtle & relatable moments.
Overall, I'd easily rank it above both Once Upon A Time In Hollywood & The Irishman, and about parallel with Parasite if I were voting this year.
It's also a pretty solid script, humanizing its' heroes through subtle & relatable moments.
Overall, I'd easily rank it above both Once Upon A Time In Hollywood & The Irishman, and about parallel with Parasite if I were voting this year.
One storytelliny strategy modern Hollywood seems to have really mastered is being careful to render certain characters pivotal to a drama as complete ciphers, so as to prime the audience into doing all the shading-in work for the filmmakers, while they focus on effects, pulling the right heartstrings (always emotions in BIG CAPITAL LETTERS, rote family ties bonds, slow-mo, lots of screaming and crying, drawn-out death scenes, etc.). Like today's popular quickie, "cooking-without-cooking" recipes, it really has become a devastatingly-effective formula for serving up sure-fire audience-bait for lazy filmmakers.
How about, for a welcome contrast, a big war film free of theme-park set pieces?
"Oscar Bait" isn't a thing and I really hate people using it as it assumes motivation of the filmmakers and dismisses their intent or artistry. At best it's a term that should be reserved for movies that are actually bad or utterly fail because a movie like 1917 is still a good movie and an impressive technical achievement at the end of the day. The story is told through one simple thruline and one character's POV and meant to be taken in real time. Mendes felt attempting one singular shot was the best way to convey that and I think he and Deakins, neither of which are desperate for Oscars at this point in their careers, presented that well to serve the purpose of the plot.
The idea that people, here or elsewhere, think that any movie is made with the intention of winning an Oscar is absolutely fucking hilarious. You guys really need to get a grip
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More so rather a cherry on top as it's pretty much like a Super Bowl trophy for anybody working in the film industry.
Not everybody has an Oscar, might as well go for one.
I still think it's asinine. The idea that the Oscar voters generally lean towards certain genres/styles/etc is absolutely true to an extent, but I don't for a second believe Sam Mendes made this movie out of any motivation than passion for the material, and I think it's pretty rude to suggest so.
Nope. 1917 is almost a masterpiece. The story is a bit on the bad side as it feels like a shooter game with each set as a new level.
After the Wedding is the biggest oscar bait of the year. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7985692/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_6
After the Wedding is the biggest oscar bait of the year. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7985692/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_6
I have to disagree, it was a very good, very tense journey with 2 characters in a horrible situation. They showed the horrors of war without lingering on it and having to see a guy staggering around holding his own intestines, the performances were great, and the cinematography was obviously extremely well done. It was great. It's not one of those movies that I'd put on multiple times to have a good time, but if you're in the right mood, it can scratch an itch. I felt for both characters and I think the movie did well in informing their characters and fleshing them out as they went along. Little glimpses, but enough to make them feel like real people.
Oscar bait? Eh, whatever. Sometimes people want to tackle nasty parts of history and do it in an interesting way, doesn't mean they're coldly calculating the best way to get votes from a bunch of academy voters.
Oscar bait? Eh, whatever. Sometimes people want to tackle nasty parts of history and do it in an interesting way, doesn't mean they're coldly calculating the best way to get votes from a bunch of academy voters.
More like this movie wishes it was Dunkirk and Sam Mendes is nowhere near on Nolan's level. ;)
1917 is a very good film, but I wouldn't rank it highly on a Best Picture ballot. The cinematography is fantastic- it's an incredible visual film. There's just not a lot to the story/characters in a way that makes it kind of hard for anything but that visual aspect to stick with you after.
The middle sections of the film felt like you they were pulled straight from a Diablo game, not a FPS shooter. And I loved that approach to a war movie like this.
The middle sections of the film felt like you they were pulled straight from a Diablo game, not a FPS shooter. And I loved that approach to a war movie like this.
Agree with this. Personally I really enjoyed it, but wouldn't put it as 'best of the year' or anything like that. An excellent cinema experience.
One thing on the "horrors of war" in the film, I agree it did quite a good job - but I think it could have done more here.
Particularly around the portrayal of the Germans in the film. I have very limited knowledge on the historical accuracy here, and that isn't what i'm complaining about, but I think it's notable that every interaction with German's in the film was one of them being ruthless and showing no compassion. Maybe it just helps with the tension of the film, but I think it could have been powerful to show even a small moment of understanding/compassion between soldiers in a meaningless war.
How many have actually seen it? Hot takes from articles one has read are bit silly.
1917 seems to ambitious to fit the "Oscar Bait" definition, as fat as we've mostly known it to be used.