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Xenoboy

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Oct 26, 2017
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This is the same company that can't even release the DQ 3ds games without Nintendo Outside Japan. Same with Bravely
 

Mifec

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Oct 25, 2017
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I'm really surprised I expected PC ports(and eventual Xbox ones) of the collections when Disney dumped all of their games AT ONCE on Steam almost 2 years back. Back then people were saying Disney not allowing games to be digital releases was blocking it. Guess it's just out of touch suits like with Yakuza(until now) and Persona.
 
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Like I said before if it wasn't announced at Microsoft's conference at E3 after the Frozen trailer then it s not happening.

Especially with Sony saying get the collection "only on PS4" the next day.

Square announces shit well in advance so if a collection was coming to Xbox we would have known by now.

Best case scenario would be it comes out after KH3 on Xbox but then who would care at that point?
 
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Liliana

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square just announced *two* new PS4 console exclusives, after just announcing they are finally going to port one of their exclusives to xbox. if you don't think Sony & Square would make business decisions to keep games off xbox, youre being naive. VXIII becoming multiplat XV was because development changed and Sony wasnt about to pay Square for the money they would need to recoup. Even KH3 Square announced it in 2013 when they assumed this gen would be like the last. If KH3 was annonced even a year after 2013 it wouldve most likely been exclusive. Crash was Activisions choice, and they have never made an exclusive anything. DMC4 and DmC were on Xbox so I don't know why you think xbox paying for premiere rights would make a difference there

Proof that Microsoft "paid" for DMC5 "premiere rights" (did you just make up premiere rights...lol)?

Actually, your entire post sounds like conjucture, and given how you never responded to my earlier reply to you on the first page, I'm not even sure I should bite again.
 

Aokiji

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Oct 25, 2017
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Proof that Microsoft "paid" for DMC5 "premiere rights" (did you just make up premiere rights...lol)?

Actually, your entire post sounds like conjucture, and given how you never responded to my earlier reply to you on the first page, I'm not even sure I should bite again.
Marketing deals I always assume was a business deal. It's common. Paid or not, w/e. Premiere games at e3 is a thing. It involves business discussions. Anyways, I didn't see your reply or I would've replied to it. Here I'll go do that now

So Sony couldn't get KH3 as an exclusive but they then decided to make sure these remasters don't release on any other console/PC? That's your logic? Haha. I wouldn't doubt if a moneyhat was involved ala NieR Steam logo photoshopped out of trailer, but I'm more inclined to believe Nomura instead of a random Sony fan on the internet.
I'm a "random Sony fan" b/c I think they're moneyhatting Square? FFX, XII, VII & IX only being on PS4 + KH1.5,2.5,2.8 doesn't seem to signify that Sony & Square clearly have business dealings? If looking at the evidence in front of me makes me a Sony fan then ok lmao
 

bobbychalkers

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Oct 26, 2017
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as convoluted as the series is, I'm baffled why the collection just wasn't made without some special consideration of they are bothering to bring the game over to Xbox in the first place. I say this as a dude who has zero interest in the series and no Xbox.
 

MCD

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Oct 27, 2017
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It's not just this collection. FF10 and FF12 remasters never hit Xbox too.

Square don't give a fuck.
 

Saint-14

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Proof that Microsoft "paid" for DMC5 "premiere rights" (did you just make up premiere rights...lol)?

Actually, your entire post sounds like conjucture, and given how you never responded to my earlier reply to you on the first page, I'm not even sure I should bite again.
Your entire post was wrong anyways, a total of 1 Sony exclusive was announced for Xbox and Sony had nothing to do with that game so I don't know where this Sony is keeping to lose exclusives coming from.
 
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Liliana

Liliana

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Marketing deals I always assume was a business deal. It's common. Paid or not, w/e. Premiere games at e3 is a thing. It involves business discussions. Anyways, I didn't see your reply or I would've replied to it. Here I'll go do that now

Again, sounds like conjecture and tinted shades. I don't believe that any company pays money to have a multiplatform game be premiered at their conference.

All this is irrelevant; Nomura himself stated what was said in the OP.
 

Gustaf

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Oct 28, 2017
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they need to remove sony's dick from their mouth first
 

Aokiji

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Oct 25, 2017
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Again, sounds like conjecture and tinted shades. I don't believe that any company pays money to have a multiplatform game be premiered at their conference.
Remove "paid" from it then. It was a business discussion. Just like Sony getting Capcom to premiere REmake 2 & put a PS1 in the trailer. You're hanging up on a word instead of what we're talking about
 

Popetita

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Oct 29, 2017
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I would jump in for this version if they released the others.

I played KH1 back in the day and liked it. I recall I got the gummy ship to the max level or close, but I never beat I think.
 

bsigg

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Oct 25, 2017
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I'm super surprised Nier got a port, I'm guessing that was Microsoft kicking in some money.

From the Giantbomb interview with Phil Spencer last night, it's not even needing to put in money but for them to get out and connect with the studios to show them that the games can be successful on Xbox One. That's why Monster Hunter World made it to Xbox, the Xbox team was talking to Capcom and not just hoping the game would come.
 

~Fake

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Oct 27, 2017
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Why did you cut out the second half of the quote? He's implying they already own an Xbox One.
But ps3 already very very cheap and he can even get a used ps3 just to know the franchise. Its just like saying 'already waste my money get a Xbox One and don't want anythink' case.
 
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KillingJoke

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Oct 27, 2017
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Has to be money or else why even bother releasing KH3 on xbox? And why the hell would MS pay for a port? (assuming this isn't the norm because i have no idea.)
 

Firima

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Oct 27, 2017
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I'm super surprised Nier got a port, I'm guessing that was Microsoft kicking in some money.

Yoko Taro himself had hinted in that one German interview during the initial press tour that it wasn't exclusive to PS4 and so an Xbox release was not out of the question, which puts him leagues above any of the chucklefucks over at Square Enix, in my opinion.
 
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Liliana

Liliana

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Remove "paid" from it then. It was a business discussion. Just like Sony getting Capcom to premiere REmake 2 & put a PS1 in the trailer. You're hanging up on a word instead of what we're talking about

You're not even making sense anymore. The fact is that Nomura stated what he did. As I said to you before, why would a listen to a well-known Sony fan over Nomura himself?
 

Aokiji

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Oct 25, 2017
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You're not even making sense anymore. The fact is that Nomura stated what he did. As I said to you before, why would a listen to a well-known Sony fan over Nomura himself?
b/c like *everyone* else is saying, it's weird that he would say it needs to be a discussion, when they are the deciding factor of it happening. but by all means call me a fanboy b/c i questioned whether sony moneyhatted something. that surely sounds like fanboy rhetoric
 
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Liliana

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b/c like *everyone* else is saying, it's weird that he would say it needs to be a discussion, when they are the deciding factor of it happening. but by all means call me a fanboy b/c i questioned whether sony moneyhatted something. that surely sounds like fanboy rhetoric

Everyone else? The majority of people are clamoring how stupid this is on SEs part. Also, I never said the word fanboy yet you seem to be having a mental breakdown. I wonder why?
 

SnatcherHunter

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Oct 27, 2017
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I am sure a collection will be announced soon..Phil is super happy KH3 is finally coming to Xbox under his leadership..
It will only make sense to bring the other games to the Xbox audience as well.
 

Aokiji

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Everyone else? The majority of people are clamoring how stupid this is on SEs part. Also, I never said the word fanboy yet you seem to be having a mental breakdown. I wonder why?
I never refuted that it wasn't stupid by square. I gave a reason why they wouldn't be doing it and said agreed that it was weird he would say it needs to be a conferversation. You didn't have to say the word fanboy. It was what you clearly meant. It's easy to read context. And now I'm having a mental breakdown. You have an interesting way of reading things.
 

Saint-14

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Nov 2, 2017
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That's why Monster Hunter World made it to Xbox, the Xbox team was talking to Capcom and not just hoping the game would come.
They did? As far as we know Capcom was targeting the west for this title, that's why they needed it on everything, MH also have MP which Xbox people like, furthermore we don't know how much it sold on Xbox.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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I gotta say it's pretty shitty of Square to put KH3 on Xbox One but not the collections. Just throw people into one of the most convoluted stories in gaming with no context.

Personally I think Square could make some nice money porting 1.5+2.5 to Xbox One, PC and Switch. I know I'd double dip for Switch portability.
 

Lunar Wolf

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Nov 6, 2017
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I think it's odd not even the KH 3 prologue chapter with Aqua came to Xbox One. Liek that chapter alone catches you up to everything more or less with the in-game journals.
I'm guessing KH3 will end up having some sort of "previously on " for the new players.

But yeah, was always a bit saddened by the lack of Xbox One support from Square on some of their bigger IPs. I feel like Final Fantasy ports and KH ports would do fine on the system.
I think it's probably more of a case where Square wants to make on these products rather than break even. Sometimes I wonder if the minimum printing requirements for console games on Xbox One is a large factor of this.

Square still seems mad about the lack of sale of Type 0 on Xbox One (Which I bought). Seems the predicament we're in now would've been resolved if that had sold better. KH3 seems to just be a deal in place they aren't going to break.
FFXV I think would've happened no matter what though.

It's confirmed that Nomura will release a recap video.
 

Illusion

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Oct 27, 2017
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"How much are you willing to pay us to port this game that 90% of your users don't give a shit about?" is the conversation I assume he means.
This. Well, sort of.

I think Square is waiting to be approached so they get paid to put the game on the console, as opposed to making the game themselves. Either Xbox owners complain to Xbox to get them, or they make it known on Social Media they want this game on XB1.
 

coma

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Oct 28, 2017
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Best case, MS should pay and have it on Game Pass to generate interest for 3. Which is something Phil somewhat hinted as an option for niche Japanese games.
 

bsigg

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They did? As far as we know Capcom was targeting the west for this title, that's why they needed it on everything, MH also have MP which Xbox people like, furthermore we don't know how much it sold on Xbox.

Phil Spencer talked about it on the Giantbomb stream last night. He knew Sony had the marketing rights but wanted to make sure Capcom had a reason to bring it to Xbox. It apparently did well according to him.
 

Rejam

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Oct 28, 2017
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Well, it's really up to the platform holder to encourage devs to release on their platform. Sounds like Square is pretty indifferent about it.

There are costs involved in porting, even between xbox and ps4, but more than that is the opportunity cost. If they have other projects that they believe will be more profitable than an xbox port, they will do those instead.
 
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Liliana

Liliana

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Best case, MS should pay and have it on Game Pass to generate interest for 3. Which is something Phil somewhat hinted as an option for niche Japanese games.

When did Phil say this? That's actually not a bad idea given how popular Game Pass blew up to be in such a short amount of time.

Phil Spencer talked about it on the Giantbomb stream last night. He knew Sony had the marketing rights but wanted to make sure Capcom had a reason to bring it to Xbox. It apparently did well according to him.

Yeah, MonHun did surprisingly well on Xbox. I like how he answers these questions, though. Seems to be doing a job in all these big outlet interviews.