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Games so good they ruined other games
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Devil May Cry 4 made all other combat systems less enjoyable and since I played it before any GoW it made GoW 3 a slog to play. GoW 2018 is the best combat system the series has had but DMC and Bayonetta series are just on a different level. Haven't played Nioh tho.
RDR1, TLOU, MGSV. They made me stop gaming for a while.
I sold my PS4 after MGSV because I didn't believe I would see anything as good in the short term.
I sold my PS4 after MGSV because I didn't believe I would see anything as good in the short term.
Exactly, same thing happened to me. Couldn't play FO4 for more than 10 hours, everything felt so dull and meaningless.
La Mulana 2 killed most metroidvanias for me. They just don't compare. Legend of Grimrock 2 did similar for dungeoncrawly games.
It's just not the same when the challenge is only in combat and getting stats. That's why something like Nioh just bored me to tears. Dark Souls at least hast neat exploration going for it, but games just feel so lacking when it's just combat, no real puzzles.
Pillars of Eternity, finally, killed modern RPGs for me. Something like the Witcher series was just so terrible in comparison, so juvenile. But eh, modern RPGs like the Witcher or Dragon Age 2 haven't even managed to be equals to the Ultima series :/ It's kinda a shame how this genre just isn't getting somewhere, with few exceptions (like Pillars, Tyranny or Torment) that at least *try* to be more than combat gauntlets with a thin veneer of plot and male power fantasy to fill out the rest.
It's just not the same when the challenge is only in combat and getting stats. That's why something like Nioh just bored me to tears. Dark Souls at least hast neat exploration going for it, but games just feel so lacking when it's just combat, no real puzzles.
Pillars of Eternity, finally, killed modern RPGs for me. Something like the Witcher series was just so terrible in comparison, so juvenile. But eh, modern RPGs like the Witcher or Dragon Age 2 haven't even managed to be equals to the Ultima series :/ It's kinda a shame how this genre just isn't getting somewhere, with few exceptions (like Pillars, Tyranny or Torment) that at least *try* to be more than combat gauntlets with a thin veneer of plot and male power fantasy to fill out the rest.
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If you were eating literal feces your whole life and then someone gave you cake would you go back to eating feces?
Metal Gear Solid 5 ruined gunplay in third-person shooters for me, specifically due to the gun customization. Sweet Christmas, the last game I played with customization that good was Army of Two: The 40th Day.
Why is good gun customization so hard to find?
Why is good gun customization so hard to find?
The Witcher 3 for open world RPGs and a lot of open world games in general. There are a few exceptions though
The stealth gameplay and animations and sheer things you can do in MGSV really sets the bar for 3rd person action games. Just too bad the world was uninteresting. Maybe the cover system could have been a bit more "sticky" with a button press instead of leaning up against something, but other than that, the gameplay is so smooth.
This is true. Playing Spider-Man after RDR2 is hard. The world just feels so lifeless in comparison to RDR2.
Tomb Raider 2013/Rise ruined Uncharted a bit for me.
The superior combat, the focus on gameplay, exploration and RPG Lite mechanics over narrative. For me, they're the perfect Uncharted games.
The superior combat, the focus on gameplay, exploration and RPG Lite mechanics over narrative. For me, they're the perfect Uncharted games.
Into the Breach
... I am having a hard time playing another turn based strategy game without asking myself, "why am I not just playing ITB?"
... I am having a hard time playing another turn based strategy game without asking myself, "why am I not just playing ITB?"
The Crew 2 wasn't great to begin with, but man Forza Horizon 4 ate its lunch. Aside from being a better game, it launched the same week as The Crew's first expansion, and consistently delivers more in terms of live and new content.
XCOM:EU/XCOM 2 ruined pretty much all prior turn-based strategy/tactics games and a lot of games that released afterwards. They just set the bar so high in so many aspects that even if a game is very different, it's hard to not compare it to XCOM and find it potentially lacking in some ways.
Really? Yeah, that's a totally fucking sane comparison that perfectly translates to what we're talking about in the least bit.
Why were you eating feces in the first place eh?
This thread is ridiculous, Nioh has garbage level, world, and enemy design compared to Bloodborne.
Harder for me to enjoy open world games since BotW. I don't want every open world game to be like it, and I'm glad these other kinds of open worlds exist, but BotW is my perfect open world ideal.
BoTW.. every other open world game I've played after it felt like a huge downgrade, like they were a generation behind of it. Just the fact that you can almost climb anything to anywhere, the fact that you can leave the dungeon or whatever you were at in any moment.. and that you can actually go straight to where the final boss resides at any point.. and the physics, how the realistic part of it serve the game thoroughly and how you can interact with the world around you in many ways
Umineko.. ah, how could be 99% of games dialogues being so shity and meaningless like this lol
Umineko.. ah, how could be 99% of games dialogues being so shity and meaningless like this lol
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The level and enemy design was really good, not interconnected like BB but good.
But the combat just obliterates BB in every way. From the 60fps to the challenge and depth, BB is just nothing in comparison
Any action/open world game that doesn't play like MGS5 is automatically inferior. More games need a grapple/takedown system like MGS5.
Sleeping Dogs is on that list as well, if not purely for the melee combat. If you're a realistic-ish action game, all mechanics should be a blend of Sleeping Dogs and MGS5.
Sleeping Dogs is on that list as well, if not purely for the melee combat. If you're a realistic-ish action game, all mechanics should be a blend of Sleeping Dogs and MGS5.
I don't know if I'd say that any one game "ruined" others but I will say that getting into other open world games after The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild is a bit tough with how how snappy the game is and the nice sense of flow it offers compared to the rest. Only certain open world games, like Spider-Man, are still fun enough to traverse for me to get into. That being said, I'm not typically into a lot of other open world games precisely because of their overall game feel so I'm not sure if Zelda had any impact on that