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Finale Fireworker

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If Geno gets in to Smash I want YouTube documentaries and retrospectives that examine exactly how we got to the point where a one-off side-character from a 20 year old game became a fighter in Super Smash Bros.
 

Hailinel

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eh, I don't think those two things are necessarily mutually exclusive
No, but that being said, I still don't see modern Square Enix revisiting Super Mario RPG when they have other IPs under their own control that are more recent and relevant. Especially with Nintendo having continued making Mario RPGs of their own for the past two decades without their involvement.
 

The Adder

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That would imply they kick started a project around 2015-2016 for the Switch alongside Octopath Traveler to justify a character being in Smash and still haven't announced it closer to release even though this game would be in development for about 3 years rather than urging Sakurai to use their many other more relevant characters that would be having games in this period.
... Dear god it's Primrose!
 

Metto

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I like to think if Elma doesn't make it, you can then direct your lamentations towards Corrin who took that "advertising a recent game" opportunity Sakurai spoke of for WiiU DLC that would also have lined up perfectly for XBX.
At least it made sense to roll with Corrin and even then it doesn't excuse how they missed Ultimate especially if she was considered then
 

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Ya'll are ridiculous. Like if Geno gets in someone who 'deserved it more' lost a slot?

That's not how it works. The game is not made worse because a character you didn't Stan for didn't get in. If it were, I'd have given up on Smash after Melee.
 

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That is pretty much how I feel, yeah. Geno's cool, but just feels weird to have him playable, despite his apparant popularity.

I feel like him getting in will kinda open Pandora's Box: now basically anyone can become playable as long as they're super popular enough.



Bruh, Geno is a character from an actual Nintendo game that people have been asking for since the first game. *Anyone* can get in? Why weren't we saying that when Cloud was announced? This is just silly.
 

Kyzer

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I remember when Geno was popular as an unknown niche retro pick, to surprise people like duck hunt or something, now it's like waiting for k rool in terms of "popularity"
 

louisacommie

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I think it makes sense to be annoyed that some obscure character from a low selling not as historically important game so it's not like duck hunt game got in over pig ganon
 

Tibarn

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I like to think if Elma doesn't make it, you can then direct your lamentations towards Corrin who took that "advertising a recent game" opportunity Sakurai spoke of for WiiU DLC that would also have lined up perfectly for XBX.
Nah, Corrin was a result of FE being at its popularity peak at the time, promoting the new game as you said, and the Sakurai FE bias. I don't think there's any real reason to not bring Elma to Ultimate, aside from the "everyone is here" and "long-awaited characters" trends that the game seems to follow.
 

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Look guys as a huge Geno fan, no hard feelings. He was just a cool character in my very first jrpg that still is one of my favorite jrpgs to this day. It's magical and Geno was part of that magic. When he's officially announced I hope you can all respect my joy.
 

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both of these statements are true

How obsessive do you have to be to deride roster additions just because it wasn't the one guy you wanted? Character slots aren't a predetermined, limited resource. Characters will either get in or not based on the development team's enthusiasm, legal realities, and marketing potential, not just because a character from a game recently released has fresh mind share. Sans wasn't robbed a slot because Isabelle got in.
 

Jahranimo

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oh wait so is that pic what people are wondering if it's a real leak or not ?
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i legit thought it was something fanmade through source film maker or something when i saw it on twitter, it'd be absolutely rad if it was the real model
Whoa fake or not this is a clean model!
 

L Thammy

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Super Mario RPG is low sellng and obscure? Where did that idea come from? It sold 2.14 million, more than Thousand Year Door. It also did that while missing one major region and being released before the JRPG boom.
 

Hailinel

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What about if the creator of the game loves him and has wanted him in the last two versions? Is that popularity relatively good enough?
He also mentioned he more or less fulfilled that desire with the Mii costume in Smash 4.

And Sakurai also has a history of talking about characters he's wanted to include in past games, but didn't, and who after receiving a trophy never appeared in Smash again.
 

louisacommie

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How obsessive do you have to be to deride roster additions just because it wasn't the one guy you wanted? Character slots aren't a predetermined, limited resource. Characters will either get in or not based on the development team's enthusiasm, legal realities, and marketing potential, not just because a character from a game recently released has fresh mind share. Sans wasn't robbed a slot because Isabelle got in.
Zelda rep

Popular so mathematically probably liked by majority of dev team

Ead 1st party so no legal trouble

Marketing potential

Look at those botw sales figures
 

mopinks

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How obsessive do you have to be to deride roster additions just because it wasn't the one guy you wanted? Character slots aren't a predetermined, limited resource. Characters will either get in or not based on the development team's enthusiasm, legal realities, and marketing potential, not just because a character from a game recently released has fresh mind share. Sans wasn't robbed a slot because Isabelle got in.
you can think certain roster additions are questionable without thinking they ruined the game

it's not that hard
 

Dark Cloud

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Well I think I'll take a break from discussing Geno for the millionth time because I can feel the downward spiral we're about to go into everytime he's brought up.
 

TMaakkonen

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Sakurai has said that Geno is a popular request. Why do people ignore that and just keep saying he is only popular selectively?
 

Zen Hero

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Why Geno when Fawful is better and relevant?
No particular reason why Geno. I would be happy with any Mario RPG character, really.

My personal choice would be Vivian, just because she is a favorite of mine. But the community seems to have gathered around Geno for whatever reason, and I'd be happy if he made it in.
 

L Thammy

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Honestly, if Geno happens, he might be the closest thing to an interesting choice on this game's entire newcomers list.

Either that or Richter. Probably Richter though.
 

PMS341

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Sakurai has said that Geno is a popular request. Why do people ignore that and just keep saying he is only popular selectively?

They'd rather get other characters, as if slots are wasted or something.

Geno is without a doubt the "holy grail" of fan requests and is a huge contender for the final base roster fighter. I always felt him, Ridley and K. Rool were the big three. I won't be disappointed if he is absent, but it'd be incredibly cool to see him.
 

BGBW

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So, in regards to the Geno pic - who is team real and who is team fake?

I'm most definitely on team fake.
 
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