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So Metroid Prime 4 is definitely going to have twin stick controls right?
- Thread starter Ravenwraith
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This is ridiculous.
If you wanted the garbage GameCube controls back you could pretend you had them by just not moving the reticle unless you were standing still.
Nobody would want to do that though because it's a damned Terrible control scheme.
Theres a big difference between gyro aiming and IR aiming so games like prime 4 and pikmin 4 are already crippled by not having the IR sensor.
No, it will play like GoldenEye 64. You both aim and move with the left stick, and you adjust your aim thanks to A B X Y (C buttons)
oh god this thread has now made me worry about all the bullshit they could potentially do with the controls.
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That's where I'm at. A light lockon would be best for those who prefer it but let's also try and ease people into aiming at the same time. I want the combat to be more attentive and intense without it being too difficult.
GCN controls or bust. I can't play with regular FPS console controls. Too used to PC. But Metroid Prime 1's controls were perfect.
I prefer Z lock which makes the second stick useless, but occasionally I want to aim manually with a second stick. But really Z lock is arguably the #1 thing that made Prime what it was and twin stick shooters are a dime a dozen.
All options should be supported including traditional, dual stick, pointer, and motion.
All options should be supported including traditional, dual stick, pointer, and motion.
I dont know if itll be the standard but it will be an option for sure. Lock On should remain in addition to free camera movement. Prime 3 made it work.
Also: optional gyro aiming is coming for sure.
Also: optional gyro aiming is coming for sure.
Being developed by an third party didn't save the last star fox though, did it?
Sometimes Nintendo likes to force "new ways to play," especially if it is with a franchise that they see as less primary. Now, to be fair, may last post was really sarcastic, but I do think that there is truth to the idea that Nintendo is willing to shake things up in terms of structure and control schemes in ways that some in their audience may not enjoy. On the other hand, Samus Returns got a lot right when it comes to Metroid, so I have a lot of hope that M4 won't try to do something drastic in terms of control scheme.
Personally, I'd think that GCN controls, with the sole change that holding R turns on Gyro, would work really well for what Metroid is, but we won't get that.
Why would it not be exactly like all their aiming solutions for the last couple of years.
Not worth worrying about.
Probably as an option but gyro will be the default, as it has been with every Nintendo title involving aiming on Switch. Hopefully lock on targeting is still a main mechanic since it correctly prevents the series from becoming too action focused and leads to a more deliberate style of combat
Judging from the imprecise gyro controls of Okami HD on switch, I'm afraid we won't get the same pixel perfect pointer controls we were spoiled with on the Wii.
I do wonder if they could implement Wii remote backwards compatibility in a software update and release a USB sensor bar or something ala the smash bros/gc controller situation. And maybe that sensor bar could be used with the right joycon pointed at the screen. It would be less than ideal, but it could work.
Yes. There's no chance in hell that it doesn't when even Zelda and Mario games have embraced standard dual stick controls for aiming projectiles.
I suspect it'll use the gyro also, though whether that's just gyro assist or a full blown MP3 style alternate control mode, remains to be seen.
I suspect it'll use the gyro also, though whether that's just gyro assist or a full blown MP3 style alternate control mode, remains to be seen.
I certainly hope so. I don't mind the Prime 1 and 2's controls, but dual analog controls are simply more fluid and less cumbersome. The Switch also has more buttons than a GameCube controller (clickable sticks and an extra shoulder button), so the developers have more options control-wise than Retro did with the GameCube titles.
I would not mind seeing an option for the original controls, however; people who are not experienced with first person games may find dual analog controls daunting, and the original games' control scheme was a big strength in that regard. All movement and aiming was handled entirely on one stick (with the latter needing the assistance of a button press), meaning that it was very simple to control even for the uninitiated. I definitely think that such a thing should be an option for accessibility.
As for prospective Prime 3/Trilogy-style controls... I would love that, but without an IR reference point like what we had with the Wii, I can't imagine it would be too accurate. Plus, holding the right Joycon upside down not only feels a little awkward, but completely cuts off access to a trigger and shoulder button - while also making the face buttons harder to reach. If aiming is completely gyro-based, on the other hand, then it would get very tedious to constantly re-center the aiming, especially for a first person title. Gyro-assisted aiming would be a superior option, IMO.
I would not mind seeing an option for the original controls, however; people who are not experienced with first person games may find dual analog controls daunting, and the original games' control scheme was a big strength in that regard. All movement and aiming was handled entirely on one stick (with the latter needing the assistance of a button press), meaning that it was very simple to control even for the uninitiated. I definitely think that such a thing should be an option for accessibility.
As for prospective Prime 3/Trilogy-style controls... I would love that, but without an IR reference point like what we had with the Wii, I can't imagine it would be too accurate. Plus, holding the right Joycon upside down not only feels a little awkward, but completely cuts off access to a trigger and shoulder button - while also making the face buttons harder to reach. If aiming is completely gyro-based, on the other hand, then it would get very tedious to constantly re-center the aiming, especially for a first person title. Gyro-assisted aiming would be a superior option, IMO.
Star Fox Zero: never forget.
If there is a company who would fuck with industry standard controls for first person games it's Nintendo.
Wii Motion Plus Only!
I used to change to Turok style. Move with the C Buttons and Aim with the stick. That's why I was so kick ass back then.
I used to change to Turok style. Move with the C Buttons and Aim with the stick. That's why I was so kick ass back then.
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Twin stick aiming controls have been a mainstay in the industry for years so I never got the argument that anyone rolling up on the fourth metroid prime wouldn't be used to them.
I hope not you didn't need dual analogue in Metroid Prime. You have a lock on and the second sticks use for weapon switching is great.
They can totally use a combination of stick and gyro just like almost every other fps on switch and I'd be totally fine with that (TBH I'd be super surprised if they didn't at this point)
Wolfenstein 2 felt a lot like playing MP3 :) Which is funny because a lot of people complained about the shooting in that game, I've only played it on switch with gyro and it was awesome for me.
I hope so. I went into the original games expecting something like Halo and was disappointed at first because I didn't know what the games were all about.
