So Metroid Prime 4 is definitely going to have twin stick controls right?

[Ravenwraith]

No question about it? I can't imagine a first person game coming out with those tanky controls from the first few games nowadays. No more having to stop to look around BS. The Joycons mean at the very least they'll have to consider pointer controls in some capacity, and if that's the case they'd have to give us some sort of alternative to handheld mode.

On top of everything great about Metroid Prime I hope we get a decent combat system out of it. I could see a "light" lock on system being included to make moving and fighting easier but I don't even thing it's necessary when you look at how heavily shooters and first person adventure games incorporate movement nowadays.

 

[MP!]

I would think it should have a few options

Dual analog, Gyro, and maybe some other hybrid option

lock on is a staple... I'd expect that as an option as well


the one thing about gyro that is better than pointer is I feel it's more accurate... The one thing that's bad... I feel like I can't play split joycon mode because the right stick is in the worst spot. For games like this I wish the sticks were both up top.

 

[Deleted member 1413]

Prime 3 didn't have the "tank" controls from 1. It'll likely be like Doom switch with gyro as an option

 

[808s & Villainy]

Definitely a maybe
It'll just be like Prime 3 with gyros instead of pointer controls

 

[tadale]

I think it's likely, but I definitely could see it still using similar controls as the two Gamecube games. I agree that just because it's named Prime 4, it shouldn't have to adhere strictly to the control and gameplay legacies of the first games.

 

[YolkFolk]

It'll likely have several options

- Twin Stick
- Twin Stick + Gyro
- Joy Cons w/ gyro pointer
- Classic GCN Prime controls

 

[Deleted member 45414]

I bet it'll have splatoon style motion aiming, but it'll be optional... probably...

 

[Vire]

I would sure as hell hope so, it's 2018. At least the option.

 

[Kindekuma]

I definitely want the game to be able to switch between classic GC-like controls or Gyro Trilogy-like controls.

 

[WarpSpeedMolasses]

Maybe. Hopefully.

But, Gyro Aiming is faaaaar more crucial for me. I know they're not FPS/FPExploration, but BotW/Splatoon have ruined me.

 

[Servbot24]

You never know, but that would be my assumption. Hopefully there is also gyro assistance.

I actually prefer the original controls though. It's slower and more methodical which I feel fits the game more than a control scheme that favors high paced action.

 

[Silvergun-Blue]

I mean it probably will, but Prime 1 and 2 didn't play like traditional fps's anyway.

 

[0MAR10]

How on earth are we supposed to know or even guess this at this point ? At least name the thread something along the lines of "Metroid prime 4 should have the option to have twin stick controls"

 

[60fps]

Joycons make typical first person controls impossible imo due to the horrible right stick placement.

Luckily the Pro Controller is awesome.

What interests me way more is if it will be 60fps again!

 

[Xtortion]

I'm thinking dual stick normally with gyro being enabled after locking on. Or if lock on is ditched completely, dual stick with constant gyro.

 

[Deleted member 37917]

As long as there is gyro I'm good.

 

[Deleted member 135]

Christ, it better.

 

[Dreamboum]

I sincerely hope to god that it gives an option to have the classic prime controls because the draw of a Metroid Prime is not aiming but the flow and pacing of traversal. If I have to focus on aiming like any other FPS out there then I don't have much reason to be interested in the game.

Couldn't even get into Metroid Prime Trilogy considering how much of a downgrade motion control aiming is to a gamecube controller.

 

[ElectricBlanketFire]

I sincerely hope to god that it gives an option to have the classic prime controls because the draw of a Metroid Prime is not aiming but the flow and pacing of traversal. If I have to focus on aiming like any other FPS out there then I don't have much reason to be interested in the game.

Couldn't even get into Metroid Prime Trilogy considering how much of a downgrade motion control aiming is to a gamecube controller.

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Oof I disagree. Wii controls are best.

 

[Dremorak]

More than anything else I'm hoping for the godlike motion controls from Prime 3 and the trilogy.

Its not a traditional fps anyway, but motion controls in fps games are my absolute favourite way to control them. I finished Wolfenstien 2 on the hardest difficulty using them on switch. So good.

 

[Nostremitus]

Yeah, I hope so. I dug out my GameCube disks when I bought a Wavebird a couple months ago. I had forgotten how janky the control scheme was. The trilogy having pointer controls throughout was a blessing when they re-released the first two for Wii.

Need twin stick, or at minimum motion controls.

 

[Aaronmac]

If it doesn't have gyro I quit gaming entirely

 

[thepenguin55]

Frankly, I'm just hoping that they don't go too buck wild with awful gyro functionality that can't be turned off. There's good stuff that you can do with gyro controls in a first person game... there's also a lot of bad shit you could do too.

EDIT: Ugh, the morph ball is going to be motion controlled, isn't it?

 

[Musubi]

Prime trilogy motion controls was one of the only instances where I felt the Wii waggle shit actually really enhanced the experience of a game.

 

[MP!]

Oof I disagree. Wii controls are best.

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I maintain this notion as well. I'm going to miss it.

 

[Alvis]

Of course lol

The old control scheme will maybe be an option. Also there will be gyro support for sure.

 

[Deleted member 18347]

Prime trilogy motion controls was one of the only instances where I felt the Wii waggle shit actually really enhanced the experience of a game.

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It was really smooth and easy to get used to. Definitely one of the few cases where the wiimote actually took a game's control scheme to the next level.

Going back to regular twin stick controls would feel weird.

 

[Darkpyro2]

I made a thread about this months ago! Almost certainly, with optional gyro and motion controls.

 

[Deleted member 24540]

The dream scenario is having pointer controls with combat designed around them, as opposed to the situation of Prime Trilogy where enabling a superior control scheme, while fun, allowed you to be more precise and agile i.e. raising the ceiling for what the player can do but they didn't scale enemies with it so it ends up being an easy mode of sorts. This won't happen though since gaming is not about fine-tuned gameplay experiences anymore, they would probably design the game around twin sticks and enable optional control methods but like I said that's not satisfying. That would be like the scenario of TP releasing after SS where it's like "oh yeah, Zelda still has motion controls for swordplay!" but the game is clearly not built around them like the predecessor, rendering the option pointless.

I would settle for a Prime Trilogy HD release and let them do whatever they want to with Prime 4 (i.e. Modernize it), but the thing is the scheme demands IR based technology, which the Switch doesn't offer... fuck. At least the Galaxy games would still function well despite having gyro, so give me those two games in HD pls

 

[Aesnath]

I don't know. Nintendo seems to have sort of a love-hate relationship with Metroid and its fans. So, maybe they'll try to force something on us. Like touch screen/gyro combo, only. Or some kind of Labo contraption. Maybe you can only play with some sort of amiibo contraption. You know, the kind of stuff long term fans of the series will really love.

Honestly, not a fan of the wii controls. I get why they did it, but it really turned me off of the prime trilogy, although I played through three upon its initial release.

 

[Eolz]

It'll likely have several options

- Twin Stick
- Twin Stick + Gyro
- Joy Cons w/ gyro pointer
- Classic GCN Prime controls

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This.
And the last two will probably be their priority for good reason.

 

[ckareset]

It's Nintendo. Absolutely no guarantees

 

[Deleted member 42484]

I think they should map the controls to what best suits the game design.

 

[NANA]

I mean, Prime 3 and the Trilogy release basically has that? With motion controls instead of a right analog of course, but still. So yes I do think Prime 4 is going to have a twin stick controls option.

 

[Kivvi]

Sticks and gyro are a given imo.

 

[Deadshot]

I heard you need a wii u gamepad to look through to aim.

 

[Pancakes R Us]

I'd like multiple options, please. Whilst I liked the Wii's pointer controls, I didn't mind the OG GameCube controls at all. In fact, I quite like them.

 

[LinkStrikesBack]

Couldn't even get into Metroid Prime Trilogy considering how much of a downgrade motion control aiming is to a gamecube controller.

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In what world is actually being able to aim while moving a downgrade?

 

[Deleted member 5535]

We don't even know how the game will be so it's kind of difficult to see what will happen but the different options are good and I hope they will be there.

I don't know. Nintendo seems to have sort of a love-hate relationship with Metroid and its fans. So, maybe they'll try to force something on us. Like touch screen/gyro combo, only. Or some kind of Labo contraption. Maybe you can only play with some sort of amiibo contraption. You know, the kind of stuff long term fans of the series will really love.

Honestly, not a fan of the wii controls. I get why they did it, but it really turned me off of the prime trilogy, although I played through three upon its initial release.

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Nintendo isn't developing MP4 so that design is kind of irrelevant from it's production and development standpoint into Tanabe and the developers and this post is really stupid in what it's trying to say.

It's Nintendo. Absolutely no guarantees

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Nintendo is a company. Different producers and directors on projects have different ideas around a game and that same can be applied to Tanabe and whoever will be the director

 

[Dreamboum]

In what world is actually being able to aim while moving a downgrade?

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Because being able to lock-on while moving is a better proposition that is much faster and requires much less effort and doesn't break the game design of the first two games. The focus is not on aiming, it is on moving.

 

[LinkStrikesBack]

Because being able to lock-on while moving is a better proposition that is much faster and requires much less effort and doesn't break the game design of the first two games. The focus is not on aiming, it is on moving.

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And it's identical to the GameCube games once you're locked on in prime 1/2. You just have to set the option to keeping the target in the centre.

It's superior any time you're not locked on in combat, which is a lot of the time, and identical the rest of the time. It's easier to actually point at and lock on to a target in the Wii versions too because you don't need to stand still like an idiot while you try and aim.

 

[ZeoVGM]

I maintain this notion as well. I'm going to miss it.

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You won't need to miss it. I would be shocked if motion controls with the Joycons isn't an option.

 

[Deleted member 9290]

If Nintendo screw this up with some BS motion crap as the only option they can go fuck themself.

 

[MP!]

You won't need to miss it. I would be shocked if motion controls with the Joycons isn't an option.

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of course but it won't function identically... well I don;t expect it to anyway.

 

[Demolition_Human]

I sincerely hope to god that it gives an option to have the classic prime controls because the draw of a Metroid Prime is not aiming but the flow and pacing of traversal. If I have to focus on aiming like any other FPS out there then I don't have much reason to be interested in the game.

Couldn't even get into Metroid Prime Trilogy considering how much of a downgrade motion control aiming is to a gamecube controller.

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What the fuck?! The metroid prime trilogy controls is the reason I was able to even enjoy it.

 

[SweetVermouth]

I still remember that the final boss in Prime 2 was broken in the trilogy because aiming at the tentacles sucked for some reason. Like it made everything way harder than it needed to be. I really hope Prime 4 comes with more than 1 control scheme because I don't want to use the motion controls. The IR pointer controls in Prime 3 were good, but the Switch doesn't have a sensor bar and would have to use gyro aiming which I absolutely hate.

 

[Dreamboum]

And it's identical to the GameCube games once you're locked on in prime 1/2. You just have to set the option to keeping the target in the centre.

It's superior any time you're not locked on in combat, which is a lot of the time, and identical the rest of the time. It's easier to actually point at and lock on to a target in the Wii versions too because you don't need to stand still like an idiot while you try and aim.

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I played both versions and it's not, playing with a gamecube controller is night and day. The flow of movement that is able to be had with a controller shows how much the games were fine-tuned for them. Gotta give credits where it's due, every part of Prime 1&2 were designed with the free-flowing movement that it allowed without any need for aiming. I wouldn't call it superior in any way.

What the fuck?! The metroid prime trilogy controls is the reason I was able to even enjoy it.

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Well the GCN controller was the only reason i was able to enjoy it. Not sure how it is blasphemy that i'm commending the work that retro studios has put into the original game. It's better with a classic controller for me.

 

[Mr.Gamerson]

I hope they rip the doom controls and gameplay speed for the action portions to make up for the lack of pointer controls.

 

[WillyFive]

It will have Gyro easily.

 

[Ripcord]

Won't work. It's going to be a Labo VR game where you construct your own visor and arm cannon. No room for twinstick controls, but you get to color your visor/arm cannon any way you want!