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TBH, I'd be pretty OK with some kind of managed "Windows as a Service" for my less-computer-literate family members who get me to build PC's for them, but then balk at the cost of Windows/Office and want to pirate it or dig out their old XP + Office 2000 discs. Being able to say to them "hey just pay this small annual fee and you'll get full OS, Office, some cloud storage and support", and the knowledge that I won't get random support calls because they've broken something, I'd go for it. It's not something I'd ever use myself, but it would save me drama if it were an option for others.

Sure, it's purely hypothetical now, but such a concept could have some use in the consumer space.
 

Lurcharound

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Makes sense for business environments I guess. Not my area of knowledge but concept seems sound and presumerably looks to offset maintenance costs vs subscription.

Another bunch of workers will lose jobs though as that's where the bulk of cost savings would be I'd presume.
 

Jonnax

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The topic is about enterprise services for corporate workstations. It has nothing to do with a home user. It would be like coming into a thread about a Nvidia Tesla and complaining about how Nvidia sucks because it is designing cards for ML and that's not what you personally want.

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Actually this topic is about some clickbait from ComputerWorld that said that microsoft is coming for your desktop also with the recommendation to turn off automatic updating.

As the truth of the clickbait came through the thread title was renamed because it was about microsoft's enterprise offering.

My point about talking about games was to counter how hard linux is to use and using it as an example of a common bit of software that most on this site would know (steam)

Then you come along multiquoting everyone to tell us how dumb people are for having a different conversation.
 

neoak

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Lol someone turned off Windows Update based on this thread and the BS article?

What the...
 

borges

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The title, even after the update, is completely fake. Discarding the ridiculous assumptions that this affects gamers or end users in general, Enterprise users wont be "forced" to nothing. This is for a very specific, already existing type of corporate users that use thin clients like Citrix. And I can tell you, as a former Citrix user, this is nothing but great news. Citrix is the worst thing that can happen to you in a corporation, specially if you live far from US and you cannot even type a character in notepad without noticeable input lag.
 

Falcon511

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This thread was fun and predictable.

Yeah this is meant for enterprises. MS is not taking away your operating system like that in the age of iOS/Android.
 

low-G

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What a weird statement. It's possible now. It's been possible for years. With the success of Office365 and the downfall of Windows the only question is why they haven't done it earlier. And yes, it absolutely will be a thing on consumer PCs.

What an odd comment. MS could never get people to move to a subscription based Windows today, plus current versions of Windows already have dedicated support for many more years (by MS), hence my informed opinion.

But it does suck that some day this could potentially become a thing on home PCs.

So, NO, it isn't possible today. Can you imagine if MS rolled out a subscription based OS when users got a supported non-sub alternative until 2025 minimum (Windows 10)?
 
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Zephy

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Every single digital product will eventually be turned into a service so the providers can keep a steady income as well as maintain control over the customers' use of their product.
 

rebelcrusader

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You make that sound unlikely or unusual. I know two people who have been sysadmins professionally for around 10 years and primarily administrate Windows computers. Both hate tons of Microsoft processes and systems.

Injections about ownership in software are not at all bizarre in any Saas thread.
For their mental health they should probably administrate something else than - I often have frustration with Microsoft (especially lately with their patching being on fire) but i don't hate their systems - would make my job very unhappy

They are bizarre in a discussion about what is an enterprise feature and has nothing to do with consumer software ownership
 

Antrax

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The title, even after the update, is completely fake. Discarding the ridiculous assumptions that this affects gamers or end users in general, Enterprise users wont be "forced" to nothing. This is for a very specific, already existing type of corporate users that use thin clients like Citrix. And I can tell you, as a former Citrix user, this is nothing but great news. Citrix is the worst thing that can happen to you in a corporation, specially if you live far from US and you cannot even type a character in notepad without noticeable input lag.

This thread was fun and predictable.

Yeah this is meant for enterprises. MS is not taking away your operating system like that in the age of iOS/Android.

Yeah this thread is laughable. OP should catch a warning for this dumb shit
 

X1 Two

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What an odd comment. MS could never get people to move to a subscription based Windows today, plus current versions of Windows already have dedicated support for many more years (by MS), hence my informed opinion.

But it does suck that some day this could potentially become a thing on home PCs.

So, NO, it isn't possible today. Can you imagine if MS rolled out a subscription based OS when users got a supported non-sub alternative until 2025 minimum (Windows 10)?

Depends solely on how they do it. If every new PC instead of an OEM copy of Win 10 comes with 12 months sub to Windows there really is not much choice. And then roll out new features to the sub first. If I could get a Windows sub for say $50 a year and have a current version for all our four Windows PCs and laptops in the household, I would probably jump in. Bundle it with Office365 for $100 a year and I am there day 1. Saving money while always having the newest version is great.
 

RooMHM

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I was banned for saying Microsoft annoucing agressive investment in gaming was bad.
I must be absolutely crazy.
 

low-G

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Depends solely on how they do it. If every new PC instead of an OEM copy of Win 10 comes with 12 months sub to Windows there really is not much choice. And then roll out new features to the sub first. If I could get a Windows sub for say $50 a year and have a current version for all our four Windows PCs and laptops in the household, I would probably jump in. Bundle it with Office365 for $100 a year and I am there day 1. Saving money while always having the newest version is great.

I think they'll have to wait until Win 11, because even dumb people can see that >5 years of support for $100 or $200 is better than $100 a year.

At that point they'll do the OEM thing.

If they're wise, they'll do "6 years for $200 / OEM" or so, but that'll be a hard deadline. It won't be an option if you don't keep paying.

After that they'll have normalized mandatory subscriptions to the OS.
 

Lukas Taves

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Oct 28, 2017
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Basically.

People are reading this completely wrong. This isn't a true DaaS at all, which is VDI or Virtual Desktop Interface. This would still keep your OS on your PC. You just won't have much control over it. So for those in the enterprise market (like me) I don't have to worry about using SCUM or another software utility to push updates or yell at people to do their damned OS patching. It is handled for you. CW has this article completely off the wall and is causing panic for zero reasons. As an enterprise pitch/solution, this is great.

For home markets, MS should know this would never fly. Or at least, I hope they do.
I don't know, I think there's plenty of users that would benefit from a device being kept clean and up to date.

I think it should definitely be offered as an option to consumers (specially if they lease the hardware as Mary Jo reported), never the only option though.
 

Jawmuncher

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This thread has run its course with discussion. If more information about DaaS and it's enterprise features comes out. Feel free to make a thread on the ETC side.
 
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