Captain America is not the gotcha that you think he is. If anything he's an exception that proves the rule about how men are portrayed in media. Especially in regards to how pointing out his perfect butt is meant to be something the audience is supposed to chuckle at compared to say, Black Widow posters.
It's not a "gotcha", it's a "you're 100% wrong in thinking consumers don't appreciate male butts".
It reminds me of with smash. The whole thing about Snake's ass became a meme, whereas gamers legitimately got pissed about Samus being "nerfed".
That's my bad as I misread the intent behind posting America's Ass
Exactly yea.
To me at least, they both look awkward and lazy. It's coding for femininity in a stereotypically sexual way.
The thing about Hades is that Aphrodite is literally naked and still reads as less offensive than many many fighting game(and other games tbh) women. Which is not especially to praise her design so much as to shit on just how bad fighting games often are.
edit: like compare aphrodite to the fleshpit mileena skin in mk9
These are essentially identical concepts. Naked with strategic strands covering up some bits. But doesn't Mileena just feel so much grosser? This does to me anyway.
the thing about aphrodite compared to say that mileena thing is aphrodite is accurate to her mythological inspiration, aphrodite is almost depicted as a highly beautiful half naked or fully naked woman, It's hard to really separate aphrodite from sex, love, and nudity because that is an innate part of her depiction and her name is used for other things that involve those things,
The thing about this is you only ever see Aphrodite as a static image. If she were a fully animated fighting game character she would be just as bad as that Mileena skin.The thing about Hades is that Aphrodite is literally naked and still reads as less offensive than many many fighting game(and other games tbh) women. Which is not especially to praise her design so much as to shit on just how bad fighting games often are.
edit: like compare aphrodite to the fleshpit mileena skin in mk9
I dunno, this feels like excuses. In my head, when I hear, "well it's from a different time / it's an established look" just reads as, "I don't have enough creativity to not rely on tropes for visual intent." The studio thing is... well. I don't know how much ground I'm willing to give to a studio just because in the past they made some cool stuff.
Yeah I agree. Aphrodite's design is a good example of tasteful nudity. The design doesn't feel pandering or male-gazey either. I don't see any sexism here.
What about the coding / design reads this way to you? Something with the line work, facial presentation, lack of full body presentation, visual side-view versus frontal; posing? Something else?
This is the one thing Street Fighter always does right with female characters.
I can appreciate this. Willing to admit my own Catholic upbringing has probably, whether intentional or not, embedded some amount of prudishness in my own reading of visual metaphors. I think it's my own upbringing which has presented this kind of iconography in a way that poisons my personal understanding of these sorts of designs. Always more to learn though, and this is easier for me personally to parse, so thanks for this!
The thing about Hades is that Aphrodite is literally naked and still reads as less offensive than many many fighting game(and other games tbh) women. Which is not especially to praise her design so much as to shit on just how bad fighting games often are.
edit: like compare aphrodite to the fleshpit mileena skin in mk9
These are essentially identical concepts. Naked with strategic strands covering up some bits. But doesn't Mileena just feel so much grosser? This does to me anyway.
I will say that on this point, you are indeed wrong. They've been using Mileena as kind of a "gotcha" in personality since the mid-2000s. Highly seductive until she a. removes her mask, or b. gets overly bloodthirsty.
Pretty cleanSo, I remember an old thread about it, and I've been playing a few other nu-XCom inspired games, and it was on sale so I grabbed a copy of Troubleshooter on Steam.
It's essentially XCOM+anime made by a Korean studio (Dandylion). I've only played about 2 hours and haven't seen everybody yet, but a lot of the female character designs are pretty...normal? Considering my usual exposure to Korean character designs, which tend to be grossly oversexualized, I was quite surprised. Game is kinda janky but fun. Clearly a case of ambition beating out talent and budget.
Speaking of janky nuXcom clones. I really like Maggie Dyrer's design in Empire of Sin.So, I remember an old thread about it, and I've been playing a few other nu-XCom inspired games, and it was on sale so I grabbed a copy of Troubleshooter on Steam.
It's essentially XCOM+anime made by a Korean studio (Dandylion). I've only played about 2 hours and haven't seen everybody yet, but a lot of the female character designs are pretty...normal? Considering my usual exposure to Korean character designs, which tend to be grossly oversexualized, I was quite surprised. Game is kinda janky but fun. Clearly a case of ambition beating out talent and budget.
I need to know if they are a couple. ;_; Waiting on new story content to crush my hopes.
Welcome to the thread! You've found the right place to voice these thoughts.
I like Irene's design and from watching my GF play the game, she's a very useful character in the game. She's a lone wolf type (mechanically) character so she thrives off taking on enemies by herself.
