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Who watches the Watchmen? Barack Obama
- Thread starter MadLaughter
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Man, I had so many mixed feelings about Watchmen. Great show, excellent structure, and one of my favorite episodes ever. However, I really don't feel like it should have had any connections to the comic. Didn't feel like Lindeloff really grokked it
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Ah, dang. I mostly made this topic because it's amazing to me that he both watches and wants to shout out The Boys, though I couldn't think of a title as catchy for that :(
What was the relation to the comics other than name anyway? I was curious about that.
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It's a sequel set 30 years later. Ozymandias, Silk Specter, and a few others return. My problem is that it does nothing to address the themes or idea of the original comic, but in mundane callbacks. It just doesn't measure up.
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It heavily features Ozymandias, Silk Spectre and Dr. Manhattan, and a faction inspired by Rorschach
It's a continuation, I don't know how you would make it and not make it have some connections. If anything it uses the comic as a vehicle for a completely different set of problems that plague the world. Even if it is connected, it feels so disconnected from the original.
I mean, at its best I kind of think The Boys is lampooning the exact kind of corporate oligarchy that Obama served during his presidency. I imagine he doesn't internalize that when he watches it, just like how the broader critiques of the failed American infrastructure in The Wire don't prevent him from loving that show, but it still shows a kind of cognitive dissonance.
Also, foreign policy wise, Obama kind of is Homelander...
Never got around to watching The Boys and only watched some of The Good Place, but Better Call Saul and Watchmen are excellent.
Yeah it was already known that he watched Watchmen, that he also watches The Boys is new and is the interesting bit.
He understands perfectly well what those shows are about. Unfortunately, he is not God Emperor of the world or the USA. What exactly did you think he could get done with a Republican controlled Senate? He couldn't even seat a Supreme Court Justice.
He could have tried at all to hold Wall Street accountable or not bail out the auto industry.
Or not drone bomb Yemeni weddings.
He's not the God emperor to us but he may as well have been to Afghani children who grew up fearing cloudless days.
Hold Wall Street accountable? Sure, he could've done that although he had his reasons. I don't agree with those reasons but they can't be outright dismissed.
Not bail out the auto-industry? Why the fuck would he not do that?
Why on Earth would he have not bailed out the auto industry? That saved thousands of jobs and the economies of several large cities.
I've still yet to see The Boys (don't fret, it's on my long list of things to watch), but The Good Place, Better Call Saul, and The Watchmen are all top tier shows. 44's got very good taste.
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Can't imagine caring about this. He's a person that watches popular tv shows. So?
Yeah, it was an odd use of the IP and really just felt like, 'we have this well known property and superheroes are big now so might as well attach it to this unrelated story for more eyeballs' or something like that. May or may not have been how it actually happened but that's how it felt
But anyway, yeah. Obama.
Probably he is the kind of person that thinks nite owl did the correct thing and the seven got so bad beacause it wasn't the goverment that made them.
It went straight to executives, those people all got screwed anyway.
A 10.3 billion dollar bailout lining the pockets of executives, allowing them to decimate labor costs and run the unions out of town? What could go wrong? It's not the bailout in and of itself that was the problem, it was the mentality and execution. It was never designed to actually save working people or even retain jobs in the long run. Just look at where GM and the rest are now. Obama served the oligopoly, not the people. Just because he vibes and has chill spotify lists and watches the golden age of TV with the rest of us does not make him our friend.
His job was to recover the American economy from the worst financial disaster since The Great Depression. He can't prevent GM from cutting jobs in the long run, but the bailout did keep jobs afloat in the short-term and saved the American auto-industry. It's kinda hard to argue that he should've just let them collapse in the middle of the Great Recession.
Idk it basically addresses the same issues/themes but with heavy emphasis on racism.
seriously how is this not people's takeaway instead of "huh good taste." It's like Paul Ryan being into rage against the machine
Who cares what this war criminal likes?
Probably relates most with Homelander and cheers on Vought.
Probably relates most with Homelander and cheers on Vought.
He would. Guy likes cop propaganda and hollow things under a shiny guise which have no deep meaning or truths.
Definitely the stupidest post ive seen here today and that's a stretch considering it's era. You could have also ignored the topic.
OT, I need to do a rewatch of Watchmen. It was so good.