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[Verge] Microsoft’s new Xbox Series S console confirmed in leaked controller packaging
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It's not that simple, though. It has new technology that enables more rendering features, but has less raw pixel-pushing power. So for cross-gen games that don't utilize engines that support new rendering tech, for example, it'll scale very strangely, one would imagine. If Halo Infinite looks functionally the same between One and Series consoles but at varying resolutions and framerates, it's not out of the realm of possibility that, at launch, it'll look significantly better on One X than on Series S.
Xbox One X already selling at ~300 range, not sure which price-point Lockhart will launch but it's going to be in similar ball park. People wont look at the two on shelf with similar prices and think "oh, but that one launch price is $499!"
Just for comparison, 4TF RDNA2 is like 7-8TF CGN, so it will be a bit more powerful than One X and with better architecture. (edit: also 1080p is enough for some, but get ready for people bitching about it being the same that bitch about 4K)
4TF RDNA2 > 6TF GCN
Not all teraflops are the same.
And then factor in the massive architecture differences aside from the GPU - CPU, memory bandwidth, SSD, VA etc. Xbox Series S is a beast compared to Xbox One X.
Yeah, shocking to see like... 4?? of these leaked within two days. Kinda bizarre. And is it true they're all in Chicago? Even more random lol
We'll see it in action soon enough, but yeah - the Series S is going to be a much better console than the One X, at 1080p. But people who want 4k and all the bells and whistles could get the XSX, so it's not an issue.
Gamepass machine fo sho.
I wonder what is Series S now. Is it even a console?
To be fair it took very long this time. So we are improving alot!
It'll have more effects and shorter load times. Even if it's not 4k, it's consistent with the messaging. X1X was the previous "4k" console. You'll need the newer "4k" console to clearly outpace it.
XSS is basically "better than X1X, but limited to 1080p". Outside of some circles, people aren't so hung up about resolution. They understand it's mostly a matter of budget. Halo will play better on XSS than on X1X, even if X1X displays it a 4k.
Feels like a "stolen off a truck" kind of situation to me.
I think we maybe found the source for this leak:
https://www.nbcchicago.com/top-vide...-of-looting-at-lincoln-park-best-buy/2319728/
I really hope this is the case for Halo! This is how I plan on playing.
So they have the new controllers sitting in stores and not any new consoles????
And they'll get similar relative overall value. Unless they're obsessed with 4k, the XSS will do the job just fine. Plus X1X is officially discontinued unless I'm mistaken.
Edit: We see that all the time on PC. Every time a new GPU series comes out, there's this weird place for a few weeks where the previous high-end is at the price of the new mid-end and that's not such a big of a deal as they're overall about the same performance even if the previous high-end might be slightly more powerful overall.
Sitting in the storage in the back maybe - looters breaking into the storage areas grabbing things not on the public facing displays.
Edit: Hit the reply button without actually replying, lol.
I guess what you say it is true but I still think marketing is and will be key to avoid confusion among customers. Wii U was all about the tablet controller and as others have said, the actual console itself didn't look that different from the Wii.
I do wish we had hard numbers on how many times people bought the Wii U thinking it was an add-on for the wii.
TF aren't everything. Just like GHz isn't everything. Otherwise people would say the 360 is faster than the One, as the 360 has 3.2Ghz vs the One's 1.75GHz. There's more to it than just raw TF.
Lol.
Oh man, Microsoft marketing will be upset at you.
Maybe on a subscription/rental model like they've done a few times in the past. Basically, pay $40 a month, and get the machine+gamepass. Possible it won't even be something you can purchase outright.
Yeah, the rumored Series S CPU would chew half a dozen Xbox One X CPU for breakfast, and have an SSD to back it up.
The main question will be : how efficient is the Custom RDNA2 based GPU. I think a 4TF target would allow for 1080p of Next Gen « 4kish » games (some being native, some being reconstructed) and potentially a level of Perf for BC that would compare to an Xbox One X (with probably still improvements due to CPU, RAM speed and SSD)
Maybe they are going to shadow drop the controller after the reveal, so is on storage(that has been looted).
Console wont be in stores until prob the week or two of launch. more than likely the controller was def going on sale Soon
This is so confusing oh my gosh, I don't know what they're doing.
Ah, that would make sense. Most likely after the next Xbox showcase
Man, that's a really good point I hadn't thought of. And super disappointing if that ends up being the case.
This might force Microsoft to announce it sooner, as the Halo free MP leaks ended up forcing Halo's hand?
The X1X has been discontinued. It's unlikely they'll both be on many shelves together.
My bet would be yes (but I can't say for sure). It still has to fit the AA batteries afterall.
Their list is incorrectly ordered. If you go buy the leaked specs we have for Lockhart, the console performance overall would be in this order:
Xbox One
Xbox One S
Xbox One X
Xbox Series S
Xbox Series X
With Xbox One X price now is still $399, I wonder if Series S will be sold at $399 as well at launch, being a more powerful console with 1TB SSD.
The Series S plays next-gen games at 1080/1440p and the One X plays last-gen games at 4K/near 4K
It isn't any more complicated than that gamers
It isn't any more complicated than that gamers
I theorised this a few days back in the "can Xbox compete" thread. You probably have to get it from Microsoft directly. It'd be nice if you can opt for one if you're a GPU subscriber.
Realistically, how is Microsoft expected to compete with Sony next generation? Can they?
My dumb take: •make Lockhart free with new and existing GPU subscriptions. You don't pay up? it's a paperweight - you either resub or send it to an authorised distributor for it to be refurbed. Existing GPU subscribers can have one delivered to your door. •all digital purchases tied to your...
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These being so readily available makes me think (and hope) that MS has a surprise in store for us.
I'm sure Xbox Series S will do well. Not sure why some people are crying over existence of this console when there is also Xbox Series X.
One will be ideal for casual and other for those that want power.
Look at Nintendo Switch, not even powerful but people love their games. Xbox Series S will be enough to play 3rd party popular titles and new games on 1080p.
Certainly, I agree they won't be in a rush (especially since they'll get a lot of mileage out of whatever slim consoles they'll absolutely put out) but I still see a half step console as inevitable.
Not certain. And imo if they want mass adoption, they need an sku with a disk drive.
1) TF are absolutely stupid measure in general. It gets even more silly when people point out the "power ranking" here.
2) There is no reason to be so defensive about MS' naming scheme. It's awful and confusing. Couple in #1 and it gets even more confusing.
3) Very much looking forward to seeing the Xbox Series S details!
2) There is no reason to be so defensive about MS' naming scheme. It's awful and confusing. Couple in #1 and it gets even more confusing.
3) Very much looking forward to seeing the Xbox Series S details!
People are just concern trolling at this point. They already discontinued the Xbox One and Xbox One X, and we'll see how long for the world the Xbox One S is. In any case, it's literally (with estimated price points)
Xbox One S ($150-200)
Xbox Series S ($250-300)
Xbox Series X ($450-500)
I would be very surprised if people cannot deal with that from a consumer/marketing perspective.
This simply isn't true. You can't compare teraflops between architectures. Digital Foundry compared 4.3 TF of RDNA 1 to 6 TF of GCN and found that they're pretty similar power-wise, and RDNA 2 will be even better.