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US PoliERA 2019 |OT2| #PresidentPelosi
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What the fuck you blithering idiots
Has Forma weighed in yet
Also what makes this situation different for Gillary than Franken?
Great screencap though kcp.
Is anyone else ever incredibly, irrationally, angry at how bad at this they all are? Every time I read a new piece of news about Stone, or Page, or any of the other Little Russian Rascals some part of me is seriously pissed off at how STUPID they all are. Collusion with a hostile foreign government to install a compromised President of the US should be something out of a le Carré novel! It should be byzantine, deep, complicated, and difficult. Something in my very bones screams that it should require carful planning and exquisite execution.
It shouldn't be the fucking PRODUCERS!
It shouldn't be the fucking PRODUCERS!
Seriously this shit response disqualifies her from my primary vote.
Waiting to hear what Forma says. I hope she weighs in. Glad Kamala responded quickly, even though Castro beat her.
Anyone who has a shit response like Gillary is not getting my primary vote, period.
Just saw it myself. Thank fucking god.
Ewarren and Kamala are still at the top of my list.
He should have changed his name to Centrist Independent before laying the groundwork for a run.
I think Northam could have weathered this, if he'd attacked his past self as a racist and could reveal a "moment" that turned him around. He's also hurt by this happening late on a Friday night; he doesn't have a weekday to address it with a proper news conference and his shitty little Twitter soundbites won't cut it. I don't want to hear what he's going to do going forward for the people of Virginia blah blah blah, I want to hear, "I was a racist. I was raised by racists, I attended school with racists, my friends were racists [I thought the person in the KKK getup was a date, but VMI was male-only until 1997, so I guess it's a fellow cadet], etc." But nobody wants to do that, so they offer up "That's not who I am" and it rings hollow. And rehabilitation has to follow punishment. Northam needs to resign.
Some of these candidates shouldn't run if they don't have a stance against this. One thought I had is that we should listen to how they answer the question of if Trump is a racist, depending on how they answer it that demonstrates the type of people they are trying to court. This may not be different.
"Has not seen the photos"? This is a hedge.
Impossible to believe in the age of smartphones that somebody can hear about the issue, doesn't have the 30s to Google the offending images, but does have the time to form a position/statement.
Yep.
Resign and then show that you've become a better person. You don't get the benefit of the doubt while you retain public office.
So you're saying that Gillibrand should withdraw and Hillary should enter.
Not shocked at Gillibrand's hedging. I don't think that her previous political focus on brown and black folks through the conduit of immigration was something she just did to please her constituents.
Not shocked at Booker, either, who is one of the seven black people in America to still think that respectability politics works in the Year of Our Lord 2019.
Not shocked at Booker, either, who is one of the seven black people in America to still think that respectability politics works in the Year of Our Lord 2019.
Yeah if Brooker can't have a strong stance against racist things like this then he may not survive. The primary is going to be more liberal and more diverse, I don't think voters are going tolerate anyone being soft in the face of any racist situations like this.
What about Julian Castro though
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Harris is going to win the nomination. She has the combination of Q-Rating and ability to actually navigate the politics of the Democratic base that no one else really has.*
*And that includes the likely entrants into the primary who have not yet done so.
*And that includes the likely entrants into the primary who have not yet done so.
One of the weirdest campaigns in recent memory. You're not gonna be able to compete for white working class folks against Biden or Beto or Bernie.
Looking at the twitter comments, trolls are already going after her and invoking Franken.
Which might explain why she didn't want to be first. I'm somewhat sympathetic.
But she got there and said the right thing. I just wish it had been a little sooner.
Yeah, that was quick. Her gut instinct to hedge gives me pause though.
Harris and Warren still near the top for me.
I'm inclined to say you're right. She does a better job taking the temperature of the party than anyone else seems to be doing.
Leaving It to the LordMeanwhile, Cory Booker
I saw what was on his face but not what was in his heart.
I CANT SEE INTO HIS HEART! BTW I LOVE THE TRUMPS!Meanwhile, Cory Booker
Holy shit, Gillibrand managed to take multiple positions even on this.
Shapeshifter.
It wouldn't have been hard for her to not say anything, go look at the photos, and then reveal her opinion.
This looks and feels like opportunism. She will shift position at a moment's notice according to which way the wind's blowing. "I haven't seen the photos (lets me off the hook in case I need to take a different position at a later point don't say this part out loud), but none of us should be racist and he must apologize (even though I just said I didn't see anything, so I don't really know what he's apologizing for don't say that either)" *political winds blow the complete opposite direction* "I have seen the photos, and I say he must go!"
Shapeshifter.
But if you haven't seen the photos, THEN YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
It wouldn't have been hard for her to not say anything, go look at the photos, and then reveal her opinion.
This looks and feels like opportunism. She will shift position at a moment's notice according to which way the wind's blowing. "I haven't seen the photos (lets me off the hook in case I need to take a different position at a later point don't say this part out loud), but none of us should be racist and he must apologize (even though I just said I didn't see anything, so I don't really know what he's apologizing for don't say that either)" *political winds blow the complete opposite direction* "I have seen the photos, and I say he must go!"
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Meanwhile, Cory Booker
Even Tim Scott (!) gave a response. Unless Booker is in the woods or mountains right now he should have been among the first to say something.
It's like he still thinks it's 2007. He's working from a playbook that Trump and his voters pissed all over.
Meanwhile, Cory Booker
Should've had "the Lord" at the end of that.
It's been less than one day and I've entirely relegated Booker into the "he'd make a fine VP choice" grouping in my mind. That's along with most of the other announced candidates, admittedly, but still!
Holy shit, he did.
Well, Tim Scott has been pretty vocal recently trying to keep that racist judge from being confirmed, so it makes sense.
If he isn't fucking resigning.....
We dont need to ask for resignations, this is a time for healing amd uniting the country.
Fuck all that.
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