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cognizant

Member
Dec 19, 2017
13,756
Filoni is probably salivating at retconning this the more I think about it. While we're despairing at how nonsensical it all is, he's scribbling notes.

"All those ships lying there for 30 years, all those soldiers, the possibilities are endless! Those fools on Era have no idea, this is a storytelling goldmine!"
 

DeltaRed

Member
Apr 27, 2018
5,746
The battle was garbage. Lando's cavalry moment was one of the least earned moments I've ever seen in a film.
 

MisterHero

Member
Oct 25, 2017
6,934
Filoni is probably salivating at retconning this the more I think about it. While we're despairing at how nonsensical it all is, he's scribbling notes.

"All those ships lying there for 30 years, all those soldiers, the possibilities are endless! Those fools on Era have no idea, this is a storytelling goldmine!"
The stakes in the sequels are so personal and small that any reasonably large conflict in the New EU would be more movie-worthy than what we actually got. Any EU story for Poe and Finn would immediately squash their movie arcs.
 

Sulik2

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
8,168
When you remove all scifi from a series that is supposed to be science fantasy and just make it fantasy, but keep some of the trappings of more grounded scifi you end up with the story clusterfuck that is the RoS.

Rogue One, Solo and Empire are the three best Star Wars movies specifically because they still feel like science fiction and places people actually live in with the space fantasy stuff sprinkled through them. Mandolorian works for the same reason.

The way TLJ ended - that was what I expected TBH. There were approximately 0 plot-threads left worth following-up directly after TLJ, and the last movie only works to reaffirm that.

This is why it still baffles me the TLJ script was approved. Ignoring all the other major plot problems it has, it left nothing for a sequel when you knew you had to make a third movie.
 
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Force_XXI

Member
Oct 29, 2017
2,188
The planet is super secret, no one knows about it.

Ok lets hide 1000 ships underground and destroy what ever dock/bay they were constructed in when they launch.

Fucking lol
 

Gustaf

Banned
Oct 28, 2017
14,926
The way TLJ ended - that was what I expected TBH. There were approximately 0 plot-threads left worth following-up directly after TLJ, and the last movie only works to reaffirm that.

your have zero imagination

there is a fuckton of threads to conitnue


hell, even Trevorrow conitnued the story beats and he is a hack
 

Fj0823

Legendary Duelist
Member
Oct 25, 2017
26,697
Costa Rica
"The evil apprentice chooses to double down on evil, betrays the hero that was giving him the benefit of the doubt, and the evil empire decimates the heroes to sub 10 people hiding in a basement"

Pack it up guys, there's nowhere to go for The Last Airbender Season 3
 

Quinton

Specialist at TheGamer / Reviewer at RPG Site
Verified
Oct 25, 2017
17,371
Midgar, With Love
Outside of The Expanse, the rule of cool in the visual space adventure/opera medium is now "fit as many ships on screen as you conceivably can." This was the case with the Star Trek: Picard season finale as well. I don't recall the number offhand but there was something like 65 or so Romulan warships... just because there could be.

Don't get me wrong. Trek's done this before... sort of. Never mind Discovery, even — the 1990s fare went there three times, to my recollection. But on all three occasions, it felt earned. Both of the biggest battles in DS9's Dominion War had hundreds of ships, but they were essentially everything that every faction had at their disposal. It worked.

Enterprise kind of did this with the conclusion of its Xindi arc, too, but even then the writers abided by the relative lack of ships that could feasibly participate. Whether that was budgetary or not, it was, you know, less silly.

I genuinely like Star Trek: Picard, exceptionally spotty month episode notwithstanding. But yeah. That space battle was a bit like Star Trek's Sith Fleet.
 

cognizant

Member
Dec 19, 2017
13,756
Wait, hold up. One more gripe before the thread dies for real.

I was wondering how the heck Kylo got to Exegol in a tie fighter. After some googling I've learned that the novelisation says he found an "old scout-class TIE". With a hyperdrive. In the ruins of Death Star 2.

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DrForester

Mod of the Year 2006
Member
Oct 25, 2017
21,806
Outside of The Expanse, the rule of cool in the visual space adventure/opera medium is now "fit as many ships on screen as you conceivably can." This was the case with the Star Trek: Picard season finale as well. I don't recall the number offhand but there was something like 65 or so Romulan warships... just because there could be.

Don't get me wrong. Trek's done this before... sort of. Never mind Discovery, even — the 1990s fare went there three times, to my recollection. But on all three occasions, it felt earned. Both of the biggest battles in DS9's Dominion War had hundreds of ships, but they were essentially everything that every faction had at their disposal. It worked.

Enterprise kind of did this with the conclusion of its Xindi arc, too, but even then the writers abided by the relative lack of ships that could feasibly participate. Whether that was budgetary or not, it was, you know, less silly.

I genuinely like Star Trek: Picard, exceptionally spotty month episode notwithstanding. But yeah. That space battle was a bit like Star Trek's Sith Fleet.

I hate Rise of Skywlaker, but at least give them some credit. The sky was filled with hundreds of unique ships.

Picard copy-pasted the same romulan ship a few dozen times, then copy pasted the same, very bland looking federation ship a few dozen times.