The thing is that people wouldn't complain for that.
Exactly. Honestly, people complaining about frame data being paid and not celebrating the free punishment/replay features is indicative of the backwards approach many take to learning fighting games.
Someone taking the time to check their replays and analyzing them are about as much casuals as people taking an interest into framedata.
Hey, Like I said, complain away. I understand why they are charging for it and why it is a bit scummy considering their previous stances on including frame data. Just stating a fact that frame data is not the end all be all and by far the least important part of this update.
I'm still struggling to think of one. It's legit groundbreaking stuff for Fighting Games. A shame it will be overshadowed by people complaining about the frame data.
Anything of substance to add or...?
lmao
Other than finding the deflection of blaming this on "backwards approach to learning fighting games" hilarious, no, not really.
Interesting response..
I'll reiterate. It is on them and people have every right to be upset about it. I feel my point still stands that for learning(high or low level play) the game, frame data is way less important of a feature than the other free stuff. Especially considering it's so readily available for free in other places, and at an arguably more detailed level.
ok but when was tekken ever a "party game" and not a "hardcore fighter" ?
I fail to see how it being less(than replay) or more important(than punish guide imo, it's easy to test punishes with record feature already, it's framedata on safe moves that you need to look up) has anything to do with people complaining about turning a free training mode feature in every other fighting game that has it into a paid DLC!
Like I said, complain away. I will not stop you!
It's a sight to behold.
It's not a basic feature though. It's an elite feature that'll be used by elite players.
Saying it's free in other fighting games is wack. You paid for any game. In Tekken 7 the value was the 36 available characters at launch compared to other fighting games. And again the value of the season pass is still considerably higher than other of its kind. Of the several features that were announced, only one is paid and not to be included in the base game.
How much should a record feature cost? $6 seems appropriate, maybe $2 for moves lists, that's not too important, everyone can just Google it but not less than $3 for damage counter, a tool that display information the game already keep tracks of is a lot of work, and $3 isn't much, people would look silly complaining about it.
Because literally nobody cares. If you're that hardcore about the game you were gonna buy the season pass to begin with, so frame data being paid or free doesn't change a thing. The weird thing is that it's the other stuff they're gonna release for free that should have been paid, not the opposite, but again, nobody is gonna buy this thing standalone when they're either gonna buy the whole sp or just use tekkenbot/an app as they've always had. It's just a bad look for bamco, doesn't change a thing for actual Tekken players.
Lol ok, it has only been free in every fighting game that added it post release too.
As clearly evident by this thread, Tekken Twitter and all the talk about it on FGs social media, clearly, no one, literally.
As others said, GGXrd has something similar.
I'm talking about the actual repercussions of this decision for actual tekken players, not twitter/forum whiners.
What's weird is that people are still coming up with this excuse that "if it was X or Y there would be a stick-up" for years now. You're still trying to frame it as if the other fighting games that got merked was because they released at a bad time and Tekken 7 profited from Street Fighter V getting blown out.
No one adds shit for free. Pretending DOA has frame data it is also hiding all the faults the game has and all the monetization it has going around. Comparing all the features that Tekken provides against most fighting games then Tekken is clearly up there for what you're getting without handing out the money. People are just trying to complain focusing on one thing while trying to sidestep everything else the game provides at the same time. Again, you're not just getting the frame data with the update. You're just paying for it while getting all the other things included in the base game without forking anything.
Most fighting games have frame data in their training modes, it's not "pretending" anything. Same for the replay system...
