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So if Biden steps down.....what do we do? Who takes his place?
- Thread starter TheGhost
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By the time COVID isn't dominating the cycle, we will be months into the Biden administration.
It's Seth Abramson, so it's 90+% likely pure BS.
What I mean is, they're not going to ignore the entire field of potential Democrat candidates to hand the nomination to an independent who lost WORSE this time than he did against Hillary.
There would be a fight.
Nothing gets my Bernie-loving buddy to turn red every time I mention that stat when he starts crying about wanting all the free stuff Bernie was supposedly going to hand out. Apparently he doesn't like that the majority of the country told him "no."
A lot of people are going to vote against Joe just because they didn't get their way. Sure enough my buddy posted absolutely anything bad about Joe Biden from any rinkydink site he could find. In the comments he would always put a gif of Bernie laughing.
IT'S A QUESTION DEMS SHOULD HAVE ALL BEEN PONDERING WEEKS AGO.
the idea that the claims made against biden was going away anytime soon was foolishness. they were all putting their collective heads in the sand about it. i understand the stakes, but there's a way to handle combating trump and still respecting the accuser
and i really don't know. bernie? warren? there's not many great choices that everyone will be happy with
the idea that the claims made against biden was going away anytime soon was foolishness. they were all putting their collective heads in the sand about it. i understand the stakes, but there's a way to handle combating trump and still respecting the accuser
and i really don't know. bernie? warren? there's not many great choices that everyone will be happy with
And that would be easily be used against him by the Trump Campaign.
Trump will take credit for all the other states low death #s, in comparison to New York's #s. Which he will blame on Cuomo's slow response. Which there will be video footage to show. And yes there will be footage of Trump downplaying it as well... but that's what Trump and his base/Rs like to do....bring you down to their level for the fight. People have low expectations of Trump, higher expectations of others.
You're simultaneously overestimating Trump and selectively overestimating voters. The people who will believe all the shit Trump spouts at face value are his unlosable base. His 40% that he'd have no matter what happens. Besides, way things are going, by the time election time rolls around New York will probably be past most of it while resurgences happen everywhere else.
Um... did you see the exit polls on how most of those same voters viewed Bernie's policy?
Either they thought Biden would be for the same policy, or they just wanted to vote for who they thought (told!) at the time...could beat Trump.
You are confusing who people want, with people being reasonable and telling you who they would expect the delegates to choose.. No one here has forgotten anything about Cuomo....
But the Dems would definitely put him up there right now on name recognition alone if things were thrown into chaos like that.
Maybe read the thread instead of jumping in and blasting everyone as if they are some weird Cuomo fanboys or something.
How red does your face get when you see loved ones fail to hit their GoFundMe goals for live-saving medical procedures?
Have you seen polling of the public option? It polls higher. People don't know the difference. They want "something".
I would like to see Sanders or Warren, but I have no idea how that even works...I'm also unsure if they would be able to garner the support.
American hates anything you can paint as a communist and women. Good luck with them.
He's not stepping down so no point putting any serious thought to it. For a just for fun thought, I don't know. Would be tough. Bernie can't get people to vote for him so gonna rule him out. I'd probably avoid most of the primary candidates and try to go outside that for a dark horse and hope for the best.
I could replace "Cuomo" with "Biden", and your post will look similar from sometime back.
Ignore what's in front of you.
Folks will never learn.
There will be an actual convention where delegates decide his replacement
And it would not be Bernie, he does not have enough support to come close
And it would not be Bernie, he does not have enough support to come close
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Actually he's the only one out of all of us that would be underprepared enough to have that happen. Unfortunately he went and had 3 kids "accidentally" at 19 and wasn't well-off in the first place.
He's not going to step down.
If he does, the replacement likely wouldn't be Bernie. Not that it would matter, at that point, we'd probably have lost November due to how much of a cluster fuck it would all be.
If he does, the replacement likely wouldn't be Bernie. Not that it would matter, at that point, we'd probably have lost November due to how much of a cluster fuck it would all be.
This, its time to let it go people. AOC and Bernie both endorsed Biden.
Then they need to either reform their entire party or just have progressives form their own 3rd party without their baggage. If they're gonna keep hunkering down on establishment, wallstreet, status-quo faces, then they're basically the GOP-lite party.
Personally I feel that Bernie Sanders is still, despite *everything*, the best chance Dems would have to win office IF -- and this is a BIG 'if' -- Biden were to take leave of the stage. Sure, from a support standpoint, Bernie didn't have what it took to beat Biden, but who is to say that with Biden out of the running entirely that Bernie wouldn't have the best chance given that shake-up? Certainly there was nobody else other than Bernie who was 2nd to Biden. It is safe to say that if the goal was to have a chance at winning, Bernie would be the guy.
If it's not about winning, but rather, having a 'true' Democrat, then of course he would not be the selection because, as others have so aptly pointed out, he's not a Democrat, really.
For what it's worth, I don't think he's raped anybody.
If it's not about winning, but rather, having a 'true' Democrat, then of course he would not be the selection because, as others have so aptly pointed out, he's not a Democrat, really.
For what it's worth, I don't think he's raped anybody.
Progressives starting a 3rd Party would ensure GOP dominance for the rest of our lives.
I like Bernie infinitely better than Cuomo, but from a strategic point, yes, Cuomo would be very strong coming out of this.
Not necessarily. It would require someone with high name recognition that is also well liked.
Also, you can be sure there will be another reason publicly why Biden stepped down (health, etc) and not this.
It's the truth here. There's no way that Biden stepping down and being replaced by anyone that isn't completely beloved and outside of the primary, which is in extremely short supply, leads to anything but a fractured party.
Idk, Bernie doesn't have enough mainstream support. Nobody else comes to mind that could sway voters so close to the election. It would have to be a universally liked celebrity level politician like Michelle Obama, and that isn't happening.
That argument doesn't hold water. He was accepted by more than any other candidate.
You keep saying this, but I'm pretty certain he ran in the Democratic primary and came second. So....🤷♂️
Totally get what you're saying, especially since Cuomo is extremely popular now but had mixed approval ratings prior to the pandemic. It's more that he's the one making waves, I think, though I'm sure some people like certain Democrats without knowing a lot about them.
Guy who's wanted to be president his whole life isn't going to suddenly step down in an election in which people overwhelmingly have looked at him to be the savior.
In the current scenario, yeah. But I'm referring to *if* dems and gop were somehow forced get rid of the measures put in place that keeps perpetuating their duopoly. I realize they'll never do this now, and I'll begrudgingly vote for whatever mediocre they choose as their nominee if they replace Biden. But any opening there is to etch away at their current lackluster state, I'll personally take. Even if it means eventually breaking off to a 3rd party if people leave in large enough numbers.
Disagree. The party. The voters rather, have made it pretty clear twice that they don't want Bernie. Both times choosing mediocre to boring and disliked candidates over him. But this is hardly worth arguing about honestly. Its a joke of a hypothetical. It just seems extremely easy to predict. The DNC is not going to overlook a party of Establishment Democrats to put up Bernie. That's beyond far fetched man. Nothing in the history of this country or party would lead me to believe they would do that. I would expect Warren before Bernie. At least shes a Democrat year round and not just during election periods when she's running for office.
Because the delegates should support someone who represents the views of the voters (IE a moderate). You know, like a representative democracy.
Kind of like how Ross Perot torpedoed Bush senior's campaign in 1992.
If Michelle was the only person people could get behind I think she would do it, but I think there are other candidates who also fit the bill that are not Bernie.
The First Past The Post system ensures that whoever splits off will lose AND ensure whoever they split from will lose as well. Until that's changed, there's never going to be any break away.