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So if Biden steps down.....what do we do? Who takes his place?
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I am curious how the pandemic will impact us across the board.
We have 7 months to come up with a better solution for people who rightfully don't want to risk losing their life to go out and vote.
No. Remember that primaries are effectively a formality, all things considered. There is no requirement for them and they can be cancelled, as New York's was today.
I genuinely can understand people "holding their noses" and voting for a rapist, because he is a bit better than the other rapist.
However, continually lending support to rapists and people who are fighting to maintain the status quo just means it's much more likely that the next person is also a rapist whose entire existence revolves around making sure nothing changes.
Lot of speculation in this thread when there really doesn't have to be. The answer is a contested convention. Delegates would cast their votes, no one would get the 1991 needed to secure nomination, so it would become a free-for-all with likely several rounds of voting until at least 1991 delegates (out of 4765 total) agreed on a nominee.
How does a contested convention work when there is no physical convention taking place
I think a lot of people hate the character and also for some reason America has convinced itself socialism was bad even though it works just fine in literally every other first world country.
Bernie is a boogeyman.
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Has a nominee for the Dems or Republican ever stepped down right before an election?
Has a nominee for the Dems or Republican ever stepped down right before an election?
that's the question. My guess is delegates will cast their votes remotely.
Partly they dropped out to amass sufficient support behind Biden to ensure that he'd win.
The others dropped out because they were thinking that this was a normal primary where once a candidate has a clear path to victory there is little point in staying in the race.
Technically they will all have suspended their campaigns rather than ending them, so those campaigns could be revived if some candidate or other feels that they need to do so.
Nope, ultimately what matters is the convention. The primaries are a colourful system that the parties have developed to inform the convention (and, probably more importantly, to ensure that they're running candidates who can sustain a national-level campaign attracting some kind of widespread support over several months). As important as all of that might seem, it is a by-product of the nomination process, not critical to it.
They're going to have some kind of convention, which means that they need to have some way of delegates voting in that convention.
All a contested convention is, in the end, is a normal convention except with more voting rounds and more people shouting at each other. If a virtual convention is possible, then a contested virtual convention is also possible, even if it might be extremely cumbersome.
Not US era, but also not sure why I'd need to be to answer this question.
The answer is kind of.
There's three precedents for this but the first two are quite old and not hugely relevant to today.
In 1872 the Liberal Republicans nominated Horace Greeley, who also got the support of the Democrats, but lost the popular election and then died before the electoral college vote. Since he had lost (by a huge margin), the parties who nominated him didn't specify a replacement for him, so no useful precedent was set. Some electors did vote for him, but these votes were invalidated since...well, he was dead.
In 1912 the Republican nominee for Vice President, James Sherman, died less than a week before the general election. The Republicans scheduled a meeting to be held after the election to select a successor, but after a pretty crushing election defeat, decided not to bother. The electors decided among themselves to cast their 8 irrelevant votes for someone else, but there was no official process, either legal or procedural, that they followed to make that decision.
The most relevant precedent was in 1972, when McGovern's nominated running mate, Thomas Eagleton, dropped out a few weeks after being nominated, after revealing he had been hospitalised for depression and stress several times in the 1960s. A new running mate, Sargent Shriver, was put in place by a special meeting of the DNC. A similar process would be used today if Biden dropped out (or died) post-convention.
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I agree with you but unfortunately could we afford to take that stance on this particular election? Any other election and he would be out the door already. Any other election, let's say it was Romney in office and not Trump, yeah whatever, people would survive another 4 years of Romney. The planet can't survive another 4 years of Trump.
Can we afford to play by the rules when those same rules don't apply to the other side? This is beyond Biden unfortunately.
You're looking at Biden representing a problem with rape, I'm looking at Trump as a problem with everything else + rape.
Okay, this all makes sense, not repeating the snafu from 2016 is pretty important, I just feel everyone bailed prematurely and had a lot more to say, and could have gotten a lot more support. Warren was doing great until after that last debate. Biden seemed to be trailing behind, not all that popular than some of the new faces even and quickly it seemed like something in the wind just knocked them all over leaving the lone standing Biden.
There was a rumor going about that Obama made some calls to the moderates telling them to drop out and endorse Biden after he won South Carolina. I can't seem to find any news on it though so it could just be a rumor.
I haven't been able to check Era the past few days, glad I hadn't already responded to this.
Turns out, there is. Sanders still intended to stay on the ballots, despite suspending his campaign, but they made SURE to take him off the New York Primary Ballot.
Plus we received notes for our absentee ballots that certain candidates had withdrawn, and if you voted for them, those votes wouldn't be counted.
Early voting would be an issue, but either we just count those as we would usually when a candidate drops out, or they mail out replacement ballots. I know there'd be issues with that, but there'd be issues no matter what.
Turns out, there is. Sanders still intended to stay on the ballots, despite suspending his campaign, but they made SURE to take him off the New York Primary Ballot.
Plus we received notes for our absentee ballots that certain candidates had withdrawn, and if you voted for them, those votes wouldn't be counted.
Early voting would be an issue, but either we just count those as we would usually when a candidate drops out, or they mail out replacement ballots. I know there'd be issues with that, but there'd be issues no matter what.
Then it sounds like any votes for him after withdrawal would be negated. Better situation for Sanders for sure.