All this.
Couldn't agree more. You don't buy zenimax for 7.5 billion them start strong arming them. You let them do what they will. We are moving on to the 6th game in their respective series and they are crazy hyped. Part of that is because we don't get them every 5 years. It's an event Everytime they launch.
I agree. It leads to creative stagnation and people leaving to work on other projects.
I mean think of it this way, when Skyrim came out, somebody that was 15 will be nearly 30 before they play ES6. They were just a kid man, and now likely have kids and a family of their own.
We really do when Bethesda only makes these games. That's like saying we don't need a new Mario or a new Zelda.
I don't think we "need" those either. If the Mario and Zelda teams came up with new ideas they wanted to explore instead of BotW2 I'd be extremely interested.
Do not even get me started on "they need to throw out their engine and adopt something like unreal engine" takes.
As a huge TES fan, I disagree that Zenimax Online qualifies as a TES team. TESO is a good MMO, but it doesn't play like BGS single-player games do, it doesn't feel like them, since it's made in a different engine and isn't as immersive and detailed, and has the usual MMO things. Besides, the game is filled with hundreds of other players running around and ruining your immersion. Fallout 76, for all its online leanings, largely feels like a proper BGS game, since it's made by the same studio and on the same engine and you barely meet other players anyway. So it's not comparable, and it wouldn't be really correct to say that TES has a separate team working just on it. TES fans have been waiting for the next TES for a decade and will wait for 5 more years by the time TES VI releases. Fallout fans have it much better, with 3 Fallout games released since 2010, the last one released just 3 years ago, a live service game that's still supported with content.
It is similar only on the surface, nowhere near as similar as Fallout 76 and Fallout 4 are. For all the flack BGS gets for their engine, it's largely responsible for the things we're used to and take for granted in their games. TESO is a good MMO with some good stories, but it's a MMO made by a different studio, not a BGS game, and it shows.
Fair enough. Personally I'm fine with formulas that work. I guess I don't have much patience for trying new things these days. I want to go to the comfort I'm familiar with. That's not to say I won't ever try new games, but, I think there is a market for both. I do think Nintendo should try to branch out a bit with say rpgs and adventure games that are not Mario or Zelda or other established character, sure.
I'm sorry, but this is the worst take in this thread. It's a sure way to piss off a lot of devs at BGS and have people leave. You don't just take away the IP from a studio you just bought and give it to another studio. You can make a case for Fallout, since some OG Fallout creators are now at InXile and Obsidian, but even then Bethesda's opinion should be taken into account, since they're the studio that made the IP famous (yes, Fallout 1-2 were very popular for crpgs 20 years ago, but it's Bethesda's formula that made Fallout the huge mainstream IP it now is). But while there's definitely a case for Fallout game made by Obsidian or inXile as long as BGS is fine with it, giving the original IP like The Elder Scrolls to another XGS studio would be pretty shitty and completely unjustified.
I stand corrected. This take is even worse.
Yea, but they don't own the people that can walk off and make games elsewhere if they want, so it does matter what they think. Any hint of bs or un-freedoms from MS and some will leave. This whole deal is brand new and you're going to see that in the future anyways.
Yeah, pretty much honestly. The engine they use may seem rough on the consumer side but it's really the glue that holds everything together and it's an impressive engine that really makes the games as special and hard to replicate as they are.
