Yup. Haven't had too many chances to use it but when I did it was OP as fuck.
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Yup. Haven't had too many chances to use it but when I did it was OP as fuck.
Just beat him last night. I'd also like to say, "hard but fair" my ass. He straight up cheats on a couple of moves, Dark Souls 2 extended hitbox style.
Anyway, here are my tips:
1. Try to stay in the middle. His combo that ends with him throwing sparks necessitates backing away, and if he's backed you up to a wall with it (and he will), that's bad. When that one ends, you can hit him with a throwing star if you want, and he won't block it.
2. Don't run away, he'll just chase you. Stay a medium distance from him so you can see his attacks coming, and you'll have plenty of time to use healing if you need to.
3. Keep your health up, so you can keep your posture damage low. Always lower it back to zero when he gives you breathing room.
4. Patience patience patience. It takes a long time to damage him enough, but once you have his stuff down, you're not in much danger, so don't rush.
5. Learn his attacks, of course. It seems like he has a lot, but he doesn't really. Let him attack, just parry or block and wait for the openings.
The places you can hit him are:
If he's standing still, you can walk right up and get in one hit, if your distance is just right to clip his right foot. Any closer and he'll block.
After his overhead leaping swing - dodge right (left dodge can catch you in that extended hitbox I mentioned) and then hit him.
After leaping over his perilous attack. If he's right on you, it's always a sweep, so jump, and hit him while you're in the air.
After that, he's very likely to do his "stand still with sword overhead" stance. DO NOT DODGE, or he'll change the attack. Stand still, right in front of him, and hit him once. When he grunts (in Japanese, it sounds a bit like "look out!"), then dodge to the side and get in another hit. You can even get in 2 hits, if you're bold - this move has a smaller hitbox than it should, so you can dodge quite late and be okay.
If he's further from you and does a perilous attack, especially after fireworks, it's always a long-range thrust. Immediately spam dodge without pressing a direction, and you'll get him in a Mikiri Counter, and can follow up with a hit.
In phase 2, all the same except, when he does his flaming bird thing (the bird lands on his arm, that's your sign), run as far away as you can and also maybe hide behind a pillar. Distance is more important, though. Keep out of range of the bird and the follow-up lunge.
The other bird move is when he disappears. Just run around and make sure he doesn't re-appear on top of you (he appears where the bird stops). Watch the range; his re-appear strike is longer than it looks. Once he does it, if you're close enough, you can get in a hit.
Here's a youtube video of someone who more or less fights him like I did.
2. Don't run away, he'll just chase you. Stay a medium distance from him so you can see his attacks coming, and you'll have plenty of time to use healing if you need to.
3. Keep your health up, so you can keep your posture damage low. Always lower it back to zero when he gives you breathing room.
4. Patience patience patience. It takes a long time to damage him enough, but once you have his stuff down, you're not in much danger, so don't rush.
5. Learn his attacks, of course. It seems like he has a lot, but he doesn't really. Let him attack, just parry or block and wait for the openings.
The places you can hit him are:
If he's standing still, you can walk right up and get in one hit, if your distance is just right to clip his right foot. Any closer and he'll block.
After his overhead leaping swing - dodge right (left dodge can catch you in that extended hitbox I mentioned) and then hit him.
After leaping over his perilous attack. If he's right on you, it's always a sweep, so jump, and hit him while you're in the air.
After that, he's very likely to do his "stand still with sword overhead" stance. DO NOT DODGE, or he'll change the attack. Stand still, right in front of him, and hit him once. When he grunts (in Japanese, it sounds a bit like "look out!"), then dodge to the side and get in another hit. You can even get in 2 hits, if you're bold - this move has a smaller hitbox than it should, so you can dodge quite late and be okay.
If he's further from you and does a perilous attack, especially after fireworks, it's always a long-range thrust. Immediately spam dodge without pressing a direction, and you'll get him in a Mikiri Counter, and can follow up with a hit.
In phase 2, all the same except, when he does his flaming bird thing (the bird lands on his arm, that's your sign), run as far away as you can and also maybe hide behind a pillar. Distance is more important, though. Keep out of range of the bird and the follow-up lunge.
The other bird move is when he disappears. Just run around and make sure he doesn't re-appear on top of you (he appears where the bird stops). Watch the range; his re-appear strike is longer than it looks. Once he does it, if you're close enough, you can get in a hit.
Here's a youtube video of someone who more or less fights him like I did.
Good luck!
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I'm at NG++ endgame with Attack Power at 38 and doing considerably more damage than I ever was in previous runs. Do we have actual confirmation on when this is soft-capped?
Also, it took a while but I'm a High Monk believer now. Getting much better at punishing sweep attacks with it.
Also, it took a while but I'm a High Monk believer now. Getting much better at punishing sweep attacks with it.
So I went awandering after the Bull and before fighting
I'd unlocked nine gourd charges, had 27 prayer beads, and 4 attack power. Thus... first try, first kill. I didn't entirely feel fair about it given what I'd heard leading up to it, and can totally see how he'd be a big roadblock if you weren't rolling with a lot of health and heals. However, it did make me feel like a lot of complaints that you can't Souls-style power up before a boss aren't really accurate. The game's so damn open that you absolutely can. Now I've knocked out
and given
a final sendoff as well. Trying to decide if I want to explore the "nest" with the dried fruit after giving the old woman some rice...
Genichiro
Folding Monkeys
the big snake
Hmm, that's interesting. I didn't keep track of things in lower NG+s, but I know that you do less damage on NG+7 with 99 attack power than you do on NG with 14 attack power.
Hello everyone, just have a few questions.
I haven't been able to play it a bunch, but I've defeated the raging bull, which I think opens up the game world?
I've also gotten to the locked door under the floorboards in the Hiriata Estate.
Should I just keep exploring in the present, or is there a way to open up that locked door?
Just any advice with out it getting too spoilery would be nice. Thanks!
I haven't been able to play it a bunch, but I've defeated the raging bull, which I think opens up the game world?
I've also gotten to the locked door under the floorboards in the Hiriata Estate.
Should I just keep exploring in the present, or is there a way to open up that locked door?
Just any advice with out it getting too spoilery would be nice. Thanks!
Nice! Mikiri Counters are super satisfying. They always happen too fast to get a good look, but I like to picture my opponent's face, mouth open, eyes wide in disbelief. Like a Punch Out opponent getting hit in the stomach. Too comical for this game, really, but I still have that image in my head every time.
Go back to the burning house after the spear dude miniboss and talk to the big guy there.
Yeah, totally! Especially when you do it against bosses, you have that "hah gotcha!" moment, and that "am gonna kick your butt" feeling, it's amazing.
I remember seeing somewhere that it soft-caps at 15 and if you reach 99 your power will be only double than 15. Not sure if true though.
Also, if you can test it since I still haven't unlocked that ability, instead of starting High Monk from the ground, is it possible do it after jumping? I'm pretty sure I saw a player doing that and the animation seemed considerably faster, but I might've the wrong impression.
Definitely froms best Final Boss, wish the the music was as good as LoC or big 3 tho.
Been a few weeks since I beat this but it's still on my mind. Learning the boss fights have been some of my favorite recent gaming moments.
Nice, thx.
Found the video I was thinking about, he uses that move to punish the boss (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJDD0eZOktU at 50s). That's a lot of posture damage.
Thank you all for your advices, I finally defeated him after 3 hours of tries. It was hard but the final deathblow was so satisfying! Also I didn't use suzaku umbrella or malcontent whistle because I didn't have enough money to upgrade (and I'm too lazy to grind...).
Now I'm blocked by
the samurai and the spear guy. It's kinda hard to face the two of them at the same time.
Alrighty, got two endings. Two more to go.
I went from 60 hours to about 7 or 8 hours. I was still kinda fooling around a bit not realizing I could skip some stuff lol.
I went from 60 hours to about 7 or 8 hours. I was still kinda fooling around a bit not realizing I could skip some stuff lol.
Pop a Gachiin (sugar or spiritfall), sneak behind them and backstab the samurai into Bestowal ninjutsu. Even if spear-guy has 2 deathblows required, the first one should happen very quick with Bestowal as it does crazy vitality and posture damage.
You would think I got better now that I in NG++, but then I die to early game bosses again lol.
Haha so I actually just beat it by dodging a lot and sneaking hits in when I could. It was very un-Sekiro. I don't think I even have firecrackers and I definitely couldn't work out an attack pattern to deflect that I was comfortable with
I do because I'm old and even knowing the strat I die tons. Only so many hours in a day.
Onwards to NG+++ I guess??? I think I've more or less mastered the final boss at this point, which is by the way the best and most fun in the game. I like how quickly you can break their posture if you're playing well and play aggressive as all hell. Plus I now consider High Monk to be the secret best combat art in the game. It can stagger like Ichimonji, does massive posture damage on sweeps, and its long string seems to be relatively safe on block, doing even more posture damage.
OTOH I'm not interested in fighting DoH ever again. What a slog of a fight. Beaten once was good enough for me.
OTOH I'm not interested in fighting DoH ever again. What a slog of a fight. Beaten once was good enough for me.
I'm almost 45. No excuses!!! LOL Just playin'... I know that feeling.
At just about exactly the 50 hour mark, and I only have one more ending left to get, one more prosthetic upgrade (which sadly requires lazulite so I'll have to make it back all the way to the end of the game even though I just need the Shura ending; thank goodness for save scumming), and then several hours of EXP grinding for skills, and I'll have all of the achievements. Excellent stuff, From. Truly an outstanding game.
Bloodborne did the same thing with the cost of blood vials and hunter bullets; you'll eventually be getting so much more money that increasing the cost of the spirit emblems incrementally is necessary, especially since you can return to idols and buy more emblems without resetting all of the enemies.
Bloodborne did the same thing with the cost of blood vials and hunter bullets; you'll eventually be getting so much more money that increasing the cost of the spirit emblems incrementally is necessary, especially since you can return to idols and buy more emblems without resetting all of the enemies.
ahhhhh I'm thinking I need to give up and quit.
Stuck on fighting
and... don't think i can stomach practicing for hours to beat it, just to get back to the parts of the game i enjoy.
Loved Darks Souls, Platinumed Bloodborne, but really it's the dark weird worlds and dangerous exploration which makes me play and love these games.
Boss fights were never my favourite parts, and this game leans so heavily on the "miniboss, miniboss, BOSS" rhythm.
I'll maybe rebuy on PC one day and use a trainer to cheat the bosses, so i can just get back to the exploring and parts i enjoy hahah.
Stuck on fighting
Owl
Loved Darks Souls, Platinumed Bloodborne, but really it's the dark weird worlds and dangerous exploration which makes me play and love these games.
Boss fights were never my favourite parts, and this game leans so heavily on the "miniboss, miniboss, BOSS" rhythm.
I'll maybe rebuy on PC one day and use a trainer to cheat the bosses, so i can just get back to the exploring and parts i enjoy hahah.
I hate the
Divine Dragon way more than any other boss in the game. Just a big waste of time. Would rather fight Isshin a million times than fight this piece of shit again tbh. Almost done with the Plat though thankfully.
man, i find it so legitimately interesting to hear and see people's myriad opinions on which bosses they like and dislike in this game. i never wouldve thought to hear THAT in particular in my life.
for me, Divine Dragon was cake, even if i messed up the final lightning reversal more than once due to timing. it was a fun "gimme" fight, i thought, and meanwhile Isshin is tearing me a new one (although a lot of that has to do with my impatience and button mashing).
as an aside, i finally did defeat that other boss...
after countless attempts, i ended up just casually rushing through iterations of the fight with Demon of Hatred, literally just respawning, rushing in without buffing and just slashing away until he killed me, stuck in some weird psychological feedback loop of wasting time out of frustration and resignation. while i was explaining to my fiancee my emotional state and what was going on in-game and why it was frustrating me specifically (had almost killed him a few attempts previously, had wasted all my rez nodes and didnt want to go and refill them, &c) i noticed that i was doing pretty well on this go... like, i had gotten him halfway down his second health bar. after i took down his second deathblow, i kinda got serious, popped a Divine Confetti, and blew Malcontent - and actually WASTED a whistle by using it at the wrong time - but ended up staggering him exactly when i needed to, and finally put him out of his misery. my heart was POUNDING, and i was glad to do it, but given the lead-up and the manifold deaths, i wasnt 100% satsified. just glad to finally be over with it.
anyway, now im just trying to hammer away at the final boss. got a pretty good strategy, but im just having trouble with managing not to button-mash or screw up my inputs by getting nervous and mis-reading animations and tells. hopefully by the end of the weekend i can put my first playthrough behind me.
Honestly I love the fight. It's just a nice big piece of cinematic eye candy which from was never good at until now.
Can someone please PM and tell me how to get to all of the optional bosses and how do I get to sonpou temple? Somehow I am already at the end and I skipped senpou temple. I dont understand this. Not a huge fan of exploration in this game compared to bloodborne or dark souls 3.
There's honestly a pretty easy way to beat him.
https://youtu.be/P77E3oWAiyc
People really underestimate the cheesability of this game.
Final boss down
Yay!!!
Took me 2 hours lol
huh thank you for this. I guess I'll try this cheese before i give up entirely.
Though i figured i was always going to get to a breaking point with this game eventually hah.
The way people talk about the final boss fight, i think if i can get to that, i'll consider myself "done" and watch the endings on youtube.
Grinding the Ashina outskirts in the NG+ endgame now. I guess I'm stuck grinding for hours huh
You'll do more but not much more. They get scaled up too. Your knowledge of the game will be worth more.
The enemies scale up. You do see the effects that the attack and health boosts have had though.
very easy, run away from him and always keep a good distance, if done right he will only use ONE attack (raises his horns from the groun) which you can deflect and stun him for three seconds, enough time for three hits. back off, rinse and repeat.
Freakin ape :/. I can get past phase one (takes a long time) but phase 2 I can't even seem to get a hit on him
sadly its 11-20 lol
also you can seem to max it a 99 only if you save a memory for the last point...
Ill never get it to 99 but before it was thought 98 was max which was rather annoying lol
https://sekiroshadowsdietwice.wiki.fextralife.com/Attack+Power
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