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Given that Persona 4 Golden is literally the best game in the series, and improved upon the vanilla game to a ridiculous degree, this fills me with a ridiculous amount of hope and hype alike for Persona 5 Royal.
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Persona 5 Royal’s Development is Helmed by Persona 4 Golden’s Director
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Given that Persona 4 Golden is literally the best game in the series, and improved upon the vanilla game to a ridiculous degree, this fills me with a ridiculous amount of hope and hype alike for Persona 5 Royal.
Best game in the series? I only ever finished the 5th game and will be streaming the 4th one tonight. Here's hoping I'll love it!
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You're in for a great time! Are you playing vanilla or Golden?
P.S.: Link to stream? :)
Itoh did good work on P4G. But yeah, Wada is definitely an upgrade over Hashino.
Kasumi has a much larger role than Marie and they're adding time in the same style as Golden.
This is infinitely better than if Hashino handled it.
This is infinitely better than if Hashino handled it.
She's doesn't seem to be a Tsundere which will probably make her character more palatable for people who found Marie grating.(personally I liked her.)
If I can hook up my PS TV properly, then I should get streaming tonight and it'll be the Golden version and here you go.
Great choice! Good news! Even though I wished the extra content comes as a DLC for P5 owners but I'll take more Persona
Eugh, that's terrible. It's not like I like tsundere tropes or anything.
Wew.
I really don't know about that. There are problems I had in Golden that were never issues in the original game.
I think the graphics might be the only straight up improvement. Otherwise the rest is debatable.
What's wrong with a blue hat?!
Idiot!
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PSTV is super capture card friendly, so hopefully that won't be an issue. I will try to tune in!
Something tells me marie isn't as hated as a few people make out. What are the chances of the internet blowing something out of proportion though? IT's just not something that happens.
Changes to the base game ala goldens can only be an improvement anyway. Hopefully kasumi and the third semester are meaningful additions, given a common complaint is that the game is a bit bloated anyway. Particularly the third semester might allow haru some time in the Limelight and not just as a background decoration after her dungeon right near the end. Shan't be getting my hopes up on that front though.
I can't think of anything I preferred in vanilla.
Better gameplay.
Choosing inherited skills.
Bonus dungeon.(I liked it)
More fun social events.
Better Chie.
Maybe with Hashino not involved in a major way (if at all), there may be a better chance of the homophobic bullshit being removed.
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Expanded soundtrack, more events, more time, a new dungeon, new social links, two new endings, mechanical improvements including to Social Links, as well as to fusion and inheritance... there's literally zero reason to prefer the vanilla game over Golden.
BOOOO
Regardless, the most important piece of information from this is that Hashino wil be hands off for this, so we don't have to worry about the new character being a sexist faux-pau (design aside...).
I prefer the old Shuffle Time as it was way more interactive. Also having the potential of an upside down card really made you make some tough choices. Really didn't care for how P4G changed it and as a result when I replay P4 I do it Vanilla.
Persona 4 Golden is an incredible game, I hope you enjoy it.
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I don't actually mind her as much in the game itself as so many others seem to lol. It was only when she was pushed down our throats in all the expanded media, such as in the Golden anime, that I started to take issue with her.
It really isn't debatable in any sane way. The only way I can see people debating in that regard is with super small bizarre hang up.
Oh, case in point.
Yeah I never once thought Marie was pushed down your throat at all in P4G. In fact, I never finished her social link because I had no idea she was that important to the game lol.
P4G is more of a mixed bag than people say. Many of the gameplay additions are certainly welcome (choosing inherited skills in fusion is a huge one, as is being able to extend buffs/debuffs), but the game balance is way messed up due to the changes (Rise's new skills are game-breakingly OP), the epilogue is not great, many of the new scenes are kind of bad or fanservicey, Time To Make History is a major downgrade as a battle theme, the new All Out Attack art is straight-up worse, the extra time at the end messes with the pacing, and while I have a soft spot for her, Marie's social link is pretty bad. Most of the best parts of P4G are just that, well, it's P4.
Are you arguing that Shuffle Time in Persona 4 is "super small"? Literally the way you acquire new Persona and potentially refill HP/SP? It's not small at all. It's at the end of most battles. Attempting to belittle my point just makes you look foolish.
Kill me for liking the various minigames and having it actually be a game and not just be still cards on a screen with no mystery or surprise.
Facts.
The only thing I can maybe see myself agreeing with that's worse than vanilla is pacing.
I just want enough change to justify a rerelease 3 years later at full price. Even Golden was like 5 years and on a different system
You had me at hello
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My hope is that his game design genius can shine there without his bullshit views being given a platform, given that it will be a less grounded setting.
Imagine if they put the effort into female protagonists instead of Maries.
It's not like Hashino is a singularity whose absence fixes all problems.
I don't think people mind poetry in general. In fact, I KNOW some incredibly talented poets that are in high school today. The problem is that this wasn't.... good. If that's the point, then it's just a painful experience for the player.
I do wonder why some people DO consider them good (please enlighten me). But then again, even 10 years later, we have people thinking Loveless from Crisis Core is peak poetry. I don't know what to say.
I mean I pretty much disagree with everything you said. Other then making the game easier which it does but I don't consider that a negative inherently.
Marie's Poems are the best, I mean they are completely terrible, but they are the best
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And even there, the much improved and expanded NG+ gives you the kind of granular control over difficulty no other game in the series does.
I mean they already are what with Kasumi being a full party member instead of just being a Confidant. That was my worst case scenario.