I'm positively surprised that PC Gamer reported on this at all. Don't know If I would've heard about this otherwise, so good on them.
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Mordau Devs intend to add option that erases PoC's and female player characters for alt righters in-game [Article updated with Q&A with Devs]
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Edit: Really sorry, not funny and in bad taste. Also fuck Nazis & anyone who caters to them.
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Even the community of Mount and Blade doesn't fare better (at least on PS4). These games really cater to racists due to "historical accuracy" aka "whites only".
Yes.
One of the most common things people imagine wrongly about pre-industrial Europe is the idea that it was kind of isolated and homogeneous. By medieval times, Europeans had been trading with, fighting with, and migrating to and from other continents for millennia. As a percentage, the black population of Europe was rather low, but definitely present, and present at all levels of society (in varying proportions).
The number of definitively recorded women warriors in medieval Europe is tiny (but non-zero).
I'm sure you're aware, but just in case, Game of Thrones has essentially no historical value and isn't really a depiction of a medieval society. Technology is all over the place. Materials science is in some cases almost early modern, but an army from Three Kingdoms-era China could take any town we see in Westeros (they might struggle with the book version of Casterly Rock, but not the TV show version).
Going back to Mordhau, realism does not appear to be what it's aiming for, which means it couldn't justify a lack of women or ethnic diversity by appealing to realism anyway. However, even if it was aiming for realism, 100% of the characters in the game being white would be very unrealistic.
Screw Nazis. And if the Mordhau devs do as the OP says then screw them too.
Abandon those idiots.
Abandon those idiots.
this "see-through cars" tech needs a lot more work, but the concept seems eerily possible
and this was from three years ago! imagine the refinements made since then
No problem! It just baffles me what kind of twisted logic and rationale these people come up with just to avoid saying "I am not comfortable with PoC and women in my games".
I've had the game for over 2 weeks and played 5 hours, so my refund option is shot. But fuck that noise.
Fuck capital g Gamers, and fuck this company trying to service them.
To add to this, especially regions/countries in Southern Europe have had a much higher amount of brown and black people due to various reasons, and the notion of race as a concept came about mostly during colonialism in order to morally justify the enslavement and genocide of the native populations of the colonized areas.
For Medieval Europeans, xenophobia was rooted in other aspects - mainly religion and culture.
To add to this, especially regions/countries in Southern Europe have had a much higher amount of brown and black people due to various reasons, and the notion of race as a concept came about mostly during colonialism in order to morally justify the enslavement and genocide of the native populations of the colonized areas.
For Medieval Europeans, xenophobia was rooted in other aspects - mainly religion and culture.
Wow fuck this game then. I played it the first week at launch and had a blast, but if the developers are going to be racist fucks then I won't have this in my hard drive anymore. Shame I can't get a refund for this without fucking my credit.
Sounds like a good idea to reduce your customer pool and create bad word of mouth.
May you enjoy your small communities made of pieces of shit.
May you enjoy your small communities made of pieces of shit.
I think there was a recent "artsy" phone app that removed people from pictures.
Didn't specify what kinds of people (it had a message, I didn't read what it was) but I'm sure folk could find ways to set thresholds on skin pigment and feminine characteristics
On a related note: Less than a week and ~2 hours. Let's see if I get a refund
Holy shit what assholes. Talk about one step forward and two step back off the edge of a cliff.
And that's an obvious problem even with games like Kingdom Come which prouldy claim to be realistic and historically accurate. Which they throw overboard on many occasions (from perks, to armour or society) just never when it comes to representation or skin colour. Realism is a cheap excuse and nothing else.
Right here, except this is obviously way more serious, heinous, and egregious.
Huh, I was really close to buying this and trying it out with my friends. That's certainly not happening now.
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So on one side, you have the stance of "let people play whoever they want". Even if someone is weirdly against playing as something other than a white male, they'd never be forced to.
And on the other side, you have the stance of "no females or people of color allowed. Ever."
How could anyone see these two "stances" as equally worth catering to?
Let's establish that the "free speech" bigots are lying through their teeth. They have always wanted censorship of things they hate in games.
If there's anything that terrifies these shitlords, it's the idea of the Mongol army west of Constantinople.
Yep - much of Europe would not have been particularly tolerant of varying ethnicity, but the idea of any particular skin colour denoting inferiority or superiority was not a common concept. Non-white people would still have experienced various levels of discrimination, but for actual collective hatred and organised discrimination, the focus was primarily on religion.
Yes, it's always a telling sign when complaints about realism bypass hundreds of blatantly unrealistic choices and zero in unerringly on "unrealistic" inclusiveness.
Cowards or intentionally pandering to racists in the hope that their game audience loses some sensible people but gains more fuckheads.
I'm not sure which is worse.
I am laughing trying to picture the team high fiving themselves as they came up with this idea to avoid controversy only to stumble neck deep into it. Because that explanation is barely plausible compared to the more plausible explanation that they are just alt-right sympathizers.
Racists love medieval settings due to how incredibly whitewashed that part of history is.
Who are they and what did they make? I'm going to make sure I avoid their games. If I'm not already avoiding them.
I'd like to give them some benefit of the doubt since they're making it an option.
But I just looked through that other thread (about turning a blind eye to the racism and such on their forums) and now I'm not so sure they should be given even that much. =/
Thank You for this. I'm all for accuracy, if everything else in a game is consistent with it.... but it seems all the devs had to do was repeat what yall said... hell they should copy and past it for that vocal crowd.
If these gamers, who want the game a certain way, they can just mod it no? So no need to pander to them, at the expense bringing bad press to yourself.
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