Garbodor did nothing to deserve this. Absolutely nothing. How dare you, buddy.
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Las Vegas Democratic Debate, 9PM ET on NBC/MSNBC | Six candidates on stage, none of whom has bankrupted a single casino.
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Garbodor did nothing to deserve this. Absolutely nothing. How dare you, buddy.
more performances like tonight, and she will.
to me, she has always come across as the brightest light and sharpest tool in the toolbox. But she's gotta show others that value and quality. I wish her good luck.
I don't see why he would stay away. He has enough FU money that this isn't going to phase him.
Chris Matthews spent years basically saying "ewwww, wall on our boarder? That's racist!" but when it comes to someone wanting Medicare for All? "THEY GUNNA SHOOT US IN CENTRAL PARK!!!!!"
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Yes because policies that typically align with democratic socialists still doesn't make him a democratic socialist. Unless he starts talking about a plan to implement democratic socialism
The race in 2016 was, for a long time, really really close. It'd be one thing if the convention was in a week and any of these candidates were neck and neck with sanders, but that's not the case. the sanders campaign floated the idea of swaying superdelegates with a month and change to go; it's very early for these candidates to more or less be saying "I know i can't win outright, but what if i had superdelegates?" (fwiw, i am in total agreement with people who think SDEs are bad)
anyway, it is a moot point, because ultimately the 2016 democratic convention was not contested. bernie dropped out and endorsed hillary.
If the Buttigieg/Klobuchar spat and Biden's basic cogency leads to a return to him he'll likely run neck and neck with Sanders through the rest of the process.
If instead Warren's strong performance and middling progressive policies lets her be the benefactor of their potential slide? Sanders would begin to look inevitable after Super Tuesday.
I'd suspect that if she has enough delegates to make the choice she'd take Sanders over Biden. In part her relationship with Sanders and most closely aligned policy positions, in part because I think she genuinely doesn't like Biden as he's been trying to take credit for CFPB and the like from even before Obama was out of office.
I think more than anything though its because Sanders would be open to her as VP, while I'd bet Biden's campaign would be so goddamn out of touch as to insist on picking their own "election strategy" pick.
This is such a peculiar thing to get hung up on. Is it very important?
Well, I got all I came for with all the dunking on Bloomberg. I think his numbers crumble now.
Warren was great, Pete was effective, Biden better than expected, Bernie was Bernie, and Klobuchar shit the bed.
Warren was great, Pete was effective, Biden better than expected, Bernie was Bernie, and Klobuchar shit the bed.
Happened with me too. Complete bullshit these aren't easier to access.
The election season is long and full of gaffes. There have only been two elections so far, let's not get worried yet.
I thought we were for allowing people to be called what they want to be called, but okay. I guess not being realistic about goals and trying to push the party left doesn't matter.
Yeah I've never thought comparisons to the 2016 election are really fair since it was only ever Hillary and Sanders and there was clearly a presumed winner/favorite from the start. There was a HUGE tent this time and if Sanders comes out ahead the DNC will not be bold enough to not give him the nomination. It would be blatant as shit and people would lose their minds.
He needs to win back his support from 4 years ago. The problem is a third of it was never Clinton votes against her not for him. I dont think he can get there.
It's not, only when people criticize Warren for being a capitalist and then go on to defend Bernie for the same reason
I get why people rhetorically feel the need to bring it up, but yeah, Bernie dropped out and endorsed Hillary, who had the most delegates. And candidates this time should do the same.
HOLY SHIT! anyone watching steve kornacki bit....Bloomberg is spending hella cash....and it's fucking having an effect....*barf*
Warren just makes such obvious gaffe's that I cant see her getting past them.
What this did show though, is she would be a absolute monster as FTC chair. I mean, could you picture her just ripping companies and billionaires new assholes every week? She'd be in freaking heaven.
What this did show though, is she would be a absolute monster as FTC chair. I mean, could you picture her just ripping companies and billionaires new assholes every week? She'd be in freaking heaven.
Bernie is the realest candidate out there. Surprised how bad Bloomberg was. Are youtube ads really that powerful to make him so relevant out of nowhere? He didn't do himself any favors either. What was that jab at the end about how he didn't need to raise any money. No shit, you're a billionaire.
It wasn't. Clinton had the nom effectively locked 4 states in.
2008 was what a close race looks like.
What if there's a scenario where Bloomberg is on the path to the nom and the superdelegates block that and throw to, let's say, a second-place Biden? How would people feel about that hypothetical? Or let's go crazy and say that the superdelegates throw to Bernie over Bloomberg. Who hates that? Isn't preventing a not-so-secret-secret-Republican stealing the nomination part of the system?
I legitimately believe that any Dem candidate will easily beat Trump come Election Day, except Bloomberg.
They're both social democrats, the difference really comes from their rhetoric, where it's apparent that Bernie has a theory of change, and Warren not so much.
As an immigrant and the son of immigrants, these are the kind of posts that made me hesitant to support Bernie.
You do not need to belittle other issues to promote medicare for all.
Will later debates allow more time for candidate responses? This is my first time following politics and I was expecting candidates to expound on their policies and critique others. Instead it just felt like people tweeting on television.
Warren and Sanders better look out for the dogs, or the bees, or the dogs with bees in their mouths so when they bark they shoot bees at you.
Bloomberg? Don't you mean Mr. Grebmoolb who comes from somewhere far, far away?
I am not the kind of person who encourages pessimism, but it sure as hell won't be easy. Trump's approval numbers are higher than they've ever been and the economy is still (numerically) doing well. It'll be a hard fight, so be sure to get out and volunteer!
it'a literally what Chris Matthews said on MSNBC - about a Berne presidency in general, not m4a in particular
I mean, if we don't win this time then when? It's honestly all or nothing.
No, that's American Politics. It's more akin to a rap battle than an actual policy debate.
He had a lot of ground to make up for not being involved in the first two primary states. Frankly tonight has just built up a lot of relevant, current campaign material for everyone not named Bloomberg between his horrible answer about the NDAs, his inability to communicate, gaslighting stop and frisk, and so on and so forth.
Clips of this debate will be shown on every cable news channel for the next few weeks. If he shows up to debates after this it will continue to be brought up. His ads were successful because the only voice being heard was his. Now when he's actually put to task he crumbles when he's actually got to defend himself.
That's not going to play well with people, especially when considering how he'd theoretically have to do against someone like Trump.
nah this is it. they're all like this, except usually with worse questions if you can believe it
And that poster had to use the contrast of "ewww racism" why?
I think Chris Matthews is full of shit and I want universal healthcare. I'd also really like it if we could avoid hysteria about "identity politics" distracting from "real issues".