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Bman94

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Oct 28, 2017
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Also, just thought about. It's kinda shitty they bought codemasters, pretty much giving them the monopoly of racing Sims and then turn around and want to get bought out themselves.
 

Gabbo

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I wonder if Vivendi would take a crack at EA? They have and have had a stake in gaming so why not? And unlike Ubi, EA is looking for buyers of the major media conglomerate variety of which they are.
 

SFLUFAN

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EA has a market capitalization of $38 billion which makes a buyout outside of a tech giant (Alphabet, Apple, Meta, Microsoft) all but impossible.

A merger is a more plausible scenario.
 

Ra

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I don't think they'll have any trouble with that. FIFA fucked up big time.
FIFA is going to come crawling back to a worse deal than EA was offering previously. I give it one, two years tops. Who are they going to find to develop a brand new FIFA franchise from the ground up, in short order?

They broke up a 30 year marriage with EA, but EA got to keep the house, the cars, the bank account, and full custody of the kids.
 

IIFloodyII

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FIFA is going to come crawling back to a worse deal than EA was offering previously. I give it one, two years tops. Who are they going to find to develop a brand new FIFA franchise from the ground up, in short order?

They broke up a 30 year marriage with EA, but EA got to keep the house, the cars, the bank account, and full custody of the kids.
Do we know if their deal will be up before the World Cup? I know there'll be a FIFA 23. I'm sure FIFA were licking their lips at all the potential licensed mobile shit they can have around this years. Be hilarious if the current deal goes just long enough to block all that.
 

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FIFA is going to come crawling back to a worse deal than EA was offering previously. I give it one, two years tops. Who are they going to find to develop a brand new FIFA franchise from the ground up, in short order?

They broke up a 30 year marriage with EA, but EA got to keep the house, the cars, the bank account, and full custody of the kids.
Build a new FIFA franchise without a lot of the leagues due to EA having the exclusive license. It's so silly how they think they'll be very successful without EA. I could understand like the NFL doing this since they own the rights to all the players (technically the NFLPA does) and teams. FIFA doesn't have any of this though, just the name.
 

EraLurker24

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I'm pretty sure the lion's share of BioWare fans are on PC and Xbox. I don't see that ending well. I'd rather Epic

Do we have numbers to support that? Not to be critical of course. In my own experience I owned an Xbox and 360 but switched to the PS4/5 like I'm sure many did. And isn't KOTOR a Sony exclusive?
 

Lkr

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Oct 28, 2017
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at this point it seems we really are destined to consolidate down to 3-4 main publishers.

i'd rather see studios split off as opposed to one huge company acquire the entire portfolio. there are a lot of solid studios that have fallen victim to the ea curse
 

Ra

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Do we know if their deal will be up before the World Cup? I know there'll be a FIFA 23. I'm sure FIFA were licking their lips at all the potential licensed mobile shit they can have around this years. Be hilarious if the current deal goes just long enough to block all that.
I haven't been able to find those details, but I'm sure they have a partnership in place to continue joint promotions through the release period of FIFA 23.

No reason to go scorched earth and compromise the profit margins.

Build a new FIFA franchise without a lot of the leagues due to EA having the exclusive license. It's so silly how they think they'll be very successful without EA. I could understand like the NFL doing this since they own the rights to all the players (technically the NFLPA does) and teams. FIFA doesn't have any of this though, just the name.
It's finely distilled, unadulterated hubris. FIFA is an organization with fucked up leadership and this is another feather in its cap.

Quote from the President:

I can assure you that the only authentic, real game that has the FIFA name will be the best one available for gamers and football fans. The FIFA name is the only global, original title. FIFA 23, FIFA 24, FIFA 25 and FIFA 26, and so on – the constant is the FIFA name and it will remain forever and remain THE BEST.
So he thinks they will find a partner and have a game out by the time next year rolls around? Yeah good luck with that chief.
 

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I haven't been able to find those details, but I'm sure they have a partnership in place to continue joint promotions through the release period of FIFA 23.

No reason to go scorched earth and compromise the profit margins.


It's finely distilled, unadulterated hubris. FIFA is an organization with fucked up leadership and this is another feather in its cap.

Quote from the President:


So he thinks they will find a partner and have a game out by the time next year rolls around? Yeah good luck with that chief.
"THE BEST" still cracks me up.
 

ArkhamFantasy

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Oct 25, 2017
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They'll be looking for a partner with valuable IP. EA has heavily relied on exclusive licensing deals for most of their success the last decade and they're not exclusive anymore.

Respawn can only carry them so much.
 

jesterkap2

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Oct 28, 2017
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I would prefer that industry consolidation would slow down a bit.

That said, if MS bought them I would love to see the Codemasters guys get to keep making GRID and DIRT for Game Pass instead of being swallowed into EA to make WRC and F1 games.
 

Morlas

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It would be hilarious if Nintendo bought them, 'unprecedented partnership' indeed
 

Xadra

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What about a merger with Discovery Warner Bros.?

Andrew Wilson, wants to keep running the company, so unless the sell is super juici, they would want to pursue a merge rather than a sell. (so I think companies like Microsoft, Google or Apple are unlikely)
 
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Just make good games. I pretty much have all the consoles, so who goes where doesn't really impact me. Just make good games and put them
On your streaming plans :)
 

arsene_P5

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Who does EA often compete with when it comes to "worst company in America?" Merge with that one.

I'm sure that would be a bank, but still.
I remember the votes like it was yesterday. EA won the title despite another america company failing at security tasks, which then let you unbelievably amount of oil in the ocean. These votes are a disgrace, because there are significantly worse companies than EA in America. Bank scandals anyone? Companies making profit out of weapons used to kill people? Companies not giving a .... about environment like mentioned above?

So many companies deserve the vote more, but of course some gamers need to vent about DRM and vote for EA instead of a companies selling weapons. It's shocking really.

Sorry for the rant. EA as a employee seems to be one of the better ones in gaming. I've never worked for them mind you, but I've read good things. My hope is that whomever gets them doesn't treat employees worse.
Also, just thought about. It's kinda shitty they bought codemasters, pretty much giving them the monopoly of racing Sims and then turn around and want to get bought out themselves.
There is no such thing as a monopoly in a genre. Nobody stops Nintendo for example to greenlight a racing simulator tomorrow.
 
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Empty Your Head

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Amazon is probably the safest bet if a US based company was going to buy them. They have twitch, Luna, and they own studios and their own development engine. They're pretty invested in gaming.

I don't think EA fits Apples mold. I also don't think Alphabet would be a good fit either. They probably end up selling them off in a few years.

Edit: Also EA ever winning worst company in America is the biggest crock of shit ever. There are companies pricing people out of life saving medicine, oil companies hiding proof of killing the planet, and ISPs that have a near-monopoly on service and speed in many areas of the country
 
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Amazon is probably the safest bet if a US based company was going to buy them. They have twitch, Luna, and they own studios and their own development engine. They're pretty invested in gaming.

I don't think EA fits Apples mold. I also don't think Alphabet would be a good fit either. They probably end up selling them off in a few years.

Edit: Also EA ever winning worst company in America is the biggest crock of shit ever. There are companies pricing people out of life saving medicine, oil companies hiding proof of killing the planet, and ISPs that have a near-monopoly on service and speed in many areas of the country
And power companies killing people. And clothing companies exploiting child labor. And then there's Nestle, whose "controversies" section on Wikipedia is longer than most entire articles and runs the full gamut of "Jesus Christ, how have they not been burned down".

(Yes, Nestle technically isn't an American company, but as with all of the big massive conglomerates, technically it's so deliberately murky that it doesn't really matter)
 
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Bman94

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There is no such thing as a monopoly in a genre. Nobody stops Nintendo for example to greenlight a racing simulator tomorrow.

Obviously nothing is stopping anyone from making Racing Sims, but practically NO third party even attempts to do them. Codemasters is the defacto publisher for Racing sims and not many other companies even attempted Racing sims outside of Microsoft and Sony's first party offerings.
 

PlanetSmasher

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And power companies killing people. And clothing companies exploiting child labor. And then there's Nestle, whose "controversies" section on Wikipedia is longer than most entire articles and runs the full gamut of "Jesus Christ, how have they not been burned down".

(Yes, Nestle technically isn't an American company, but as with all of the big massive conglomerates, technically it's so deliberately murky that it doesn't really matter)

Nestle's history is fucking dark, for sure. Especially their history of heavily pushing baby formula in poor countries, even though baby formula alone isn't a realistic substitute for actual breast milk and can actually lead to serious health issues in developing children.
 

PlanetSmasher

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If Activision does (which it will) then this definitely would

I would argue that the more massive publishers Microsoft buys, the MORE attention the FTC will pay to them in the future. If it starts to look like they're just trying to buy the entire industry to prevent Nintendo and Sony (or any new first party platforms) from competing, the FTC will have to step in and stop them.
 

DJKippling

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I would argue that the more massive publishers Microsoft buys, the MORE attention the FTC will pay to them in the future. If it starts to look like they're just trying to buy the entire industry to prevent Nintendo and Sony (or any new first party platforms) from competing, the FTC will have to step in and stop them.

But that's really the case is it? they are still massively behind Sony and Nintendo even when activision goes through and owning doesn't really make any difference to Sony or Nintendo if they continue to release on their systems which they would.
 

the-pi-guy

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But that's really the case is it? they are still massively behind Sony and Nintendo even when activision goes through and owning doesn't really make any difference to Sony or Nintendo if they continue to release on their systems which they would.
They'll be third behind Tencent and Sony, ahead of Nintendo. And theyre not massively behind at all.
 

PlanetSmasher

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But that's really the case is it? they are still massively behind Sony and Nintendo even with activision and owning doesn't really make any difference to Sony or Nintendo if they continue to release on their systems which they would.

I really don't think they're going to keep releasing games on Sony and Nintendo systems. Not a lot of them, at least. They'll half-assedly release like one or two high-profit multiplayer GaaS games (Warzone, etc) on PS5 so they can be like "look we kept our promise", and then make the entire rest of the publisher's catalog exclusive to XB and Game Pass. If I'm wrong, cool, that's good, but I fully expect them to do exactly what I suggested they will.

At the end of the day, one company buying up swathes of the biggest third party publishers like this IS a bad thing, whether that company wound up being Sony or Microsoft or anyone else. We should not be cheerleading for one company suddenly owning the lion's share of the major third party AAA publishers.
 

DJKippling

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I really don't think they're going to keep releasing games on Sony and Nintendo systems. Not a lot of them, at least. They'll half-assedly release like one or two high-profit multiplayer GaaS games (Warzone, etc) on PS5 so they can be like "look we kept our promise", and then make the entire rest of the publisher's catalog exclusive to XB and Game Pass. If I'm wrong, cool, that's good, but I fully expect them to do exactly what I suggested they will.

At the end of the day, one company buying up swathes of the biggest third party publishers like this IS a bad thing, whether that company wound up being Sony or Microsoft or anyone else. We should not be cheerleading for one company suddenly owning the lion's share of the major third party AAA publishers.

i'm certainly not cheerleading anything if that's what you suggesting, just pointing out the FTC will not block anything, there's currently no reason to at all.
 

PlanetSmasher

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i'm certainly not cheerleading anything if that's what you suggesting, just pointing out the FTC will not block anything, there's currently no reason to at all.

As I said, the point would be that if the FTC notices that Microsoft is making overtures towards buying the majority of the industry's major multiplatform third party publishers, that would be when the FTC has to act.