The military doesn't really have a stance, they are just stating essentially claiming a "fact"
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Iranian military claims to have shot down US spy drone
- Thread starter Ozorov
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The military doesn't really have a stance, they are just stating essentially claiming a "fact"
But is seems like every country in the ME is like this - they are comprised of tribes / sects / etc, and they'll NEVER get along...taking out one, just allows another to rise into the 'bully' role...then 20 years later, we're helping the one we 'took out'. I just don't see how the US's involvement has ever done a single bit of good for the region, or for the US.
I mean, look at the Iran Iraq war, was basically over preventing the export of 'ideology' (sure some border conflicts too), and netted nothing for everyone, and cost 1,000,000 lives. Thats conflict in the ME in a nutshell.
This is India vs. Pakistan levels of ridiculousness.
For those who need a translation:
Official and FARS (Iranian press agency) videos show totally different routes for the drone. Also, FARS shows Iran firing the missile before the drone allegedly invading Iranian airspace.
Amateur hour.
To be fair, the Iraq mistake was disbanding the IA and Iraqi Police (actually invading not withstanding) I highly doubt that would be done again. Then again we have Bolton so who knows.
Being Iran has a video ready to go shows it was premeditated to attack this drone. Also showing wreckage means nothing as they could've just picked it up if it was in international waters.
Downside for Iran here is that the US and most likely the UAE are going to have IR and Radar tracks of this engagement. I'm sure Iran will say its false but that is where this is going.
Downside for Iran here is that the US and most likely the UAE are going to have IR and Radar tracks of this engagement. I'm sure Iran will say its false but that is where this is going.
Gotta love the production quality and attempt at hype
Also love that is basically spits in Trump's face about it "being a mistake" when they are pumping out propaganda videos
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Oh piss off. Iran isn't the one busy invading and destroying Iraq and Afghanistan and Libya and Pakistan and Yemen.
I think some explanation is needed. On its surface, this reads as completely nonsensical lol.
Uhh Iran has proxies fighting wars in Iraq, Yemen, Syria, Lebanon, Bahrain......
We've been conducting military operations in Yemen since 9/11, backed and provided some logistical aid to Saudi Arabia's invasion from '15, and have had commandos fighting on the ground since at least last year. Plus we've recently sold them ridiculous amounts of weapons and tech.
Sure and Iran's been pretty actively involved since 2015 as well.
Fake-ass reality show drama except there are actual human lives at stake.
Serious health issues need to happen, yesterday.
I'm no Iran Stan, but this happened yesterday, and a video that cheesy can be cobbled together in five minutes.
You don't set up a camera in the middle of the night unless you're expecting to do something....
Pretty much how i feel. If you are gonna fly them you gotta accept the risk it might get shot down, Cant be upset about it. I would understand if any nation shot down any spy drone. Thats kinda how the "game" works.
So...it's war then? Or at least another link in the chain towards war...
Gotta love the fact that the state propaganda....errr Fox News is playing the angle that this was an unprovoked attack. Yes, definitely unprovoked. Iran randomly reneged on the nuclear deal and we would never shoot down a Russian drone that close to our airspace...
US have already started the war with Iran. Backing out from an agreement that was absolutely beneficial for the whole world and then imposing crippling sanctions that are destroying a nation is a literal act of war, but everyone seems to forget about this. Iran and US are already at war, and Iranian people are the one taking a beating.
As someone who lives in Iran, reading this thread is just depressing.
As someone who lives in Iran, reading this thread is just depressing.
A measured response? With Pompeo and Bolton whispering sweet nothings in Trump's ear? Don't make me laugh.
A measured response is one where thought and time is put into it. A response doesn't mean a military strike.
I feel like war with Iran can't be sold to the American public, even to the hardcore conservatives that make up about 20-30 percent of our populace.
It makes all sorts of sense to be filming your weapons firing. It's a good investigative tool in case something malfunctions.
Pretty sure there's all sorts of cameras (fixed or not) outside of missile silos for this reason.
I think in the sense that US stop selling oil to japan, thus "forcing" japan to attack the US in order to secure oil for their war in China? Maybe? That's how I interpret it.
And what kind of response would we be looking at? More sanctions? More Troops? Anything of those will only make the situation more dangerous and just further raises the risk of war. Trump may not want war but those idiots do and anything they can trick him into doing will only further their agenda of backing Iran into a corner until its hand is forced, like it was last night.
A measured response could be anything or absolutely nothing. My guess would be something non-military, but time will tell.
Pretty sure that's just a handheld camera or phone based on how they point it up at the sky?
If trump can lock up little children iam sure he can sell a war in iran. ,, iran attacked us, NOBODY attacks america and gets away with it". Sold
I think it means "I don't know what the fuck Trump will be convinced to do. He's a lazy idiot who doesn't read, and has the attention span of a goldfish."
But it was an unmanned aircraft lol
Idk
If anything the retaliation will just be cia type ops, maybe riling up iranians for their own type of "Arab spring"
Japan was embargoed by the US (and allies) and had no oil. Backed into a corner and desperate
Iam not sure trump wants a war but everybody around him seems like they cant wait.
Doesnt matter if its a drone. Its an attack. I really hope nothing happens but i dont trust the people in the white house .
See, if this was bush right now then I'd be more scared, but Trump is more of an authoritarian type leader, and if he isn't the one to have the idea, then I don't think he'll do anything.
The guy just does what he feels like, regardless of advisement. Hence why he fucking fires everyone lol
If Trump truly doesn't want war with Iran and is actively trying to de-escalate the situation then, credit where credit is due.
He knows his base would turn on him if he got us into another war
Russian-backed separatists shoot down an AIRLINER FULL OF INNOCENT PEOPLE with Russian weapons.
Murica: I sleep
Iranians shoot down a remote controlled drone resulting in zero deaths or injuries
Murica: WAR DRUMS
Murica: I sleep
Iranians shoot down a remote controlled drone resulting in zero deaths or injuries
Murica: WAR DRUMS