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Have you ever turned someone who friend-zoned you into a fwb? (Serious)
- Thread starter Exellus
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Yes, it's where Jean Grey gets her telepathic power. (Thanks, Wolvie!)
Nope. I don't care for women romantically. And I never seek out to have sex with women.
But when a woman who I find good looking offers to have sex with me, and I'm in the mood, then I won't reject. I just love the body contact, I guess.
I'm one of those gays who's not disgusted by vagina.
Sexuallity is weird. But no, I could never be with a woman. Sex only? Sure.
I don't think you know what objectifying is neither what a friendzone is.
OP, life is too short, move on.
I'd be interested to read why you think RDreamer was wrong. The concept of feeling friend-zoned is almost entirely one of objectification. You view the person as someone to have sex with and not worth your time otherwise. How is that not objectification?
We all need to drop and do 5 sets of 20.
It'll help facilitate meaningful dialogue.
So apparently horrible people on the internet have ruined a term that worked perfectly fine like 20 years ago to describe unrequited feelings and getting told "I like you as a friend"?
Damn.
I always thought the whole "nice guy" thing was called "simping" instead? I guess my terminology is really behind.
Damn.
I always thought the whole "nice guy" thing was called "simping" instead? I guess my terminology is really behind.
Probably not. People are trying to attribute personal anecdotes to nuanced situations. The poster two above you for instance is stating that the concept of the friend-zone is nearly almost always about objectification, which just seems like projection; though Tbf, given the context of the situation, the OP seems like they're objectifying the person they like.
You really underestimate the power of
- hitting the gym and getting some muscle
- growing a beard
- having a big nice looking dick
This is probably the grossest thread I've seen here, which is nuts considering you all post about not washing your legs or wearing deodorant.
"this female just wants to be a friend and won't put out, how do I convince her?"
You asking for mind tricks or some shit? Either be a normal functional human being and be considerate of other people, or move the fuck on.
"this female just wants to be a friend and won't put out, how do I convince her?"
You asking for mind tricks or some shit? Either be a normal functional human being and be considerate of other people, or move the fuck on.
But we'll never know unless we try!
Jokes aside, I agree. People are people, they like different things, they're attracted to different things, and they're turned on by different things. It's not always about objectification, but I also think there's enough objectification taking place to put it on the board, so to speak.
The moment i girl friendzones me is the moment i spent less time with her. If you want most of my time... then you doing it wrong :p
There is still the unrequited feelings part but now guys aren't up front about it and continue to try to wiggle their way into a woman's good graces to earn sex. When they finally do make it clear and get turned down they freak out.
I thought this was about talking whether people had gotten into a situation like that (as it sometimes happens with imperfect beings such as humans) but I guess this thread is effectively asking about instructions on how to manipulate someone into having sex with you and I don't want any part of that.
Yup.
There are definitely situations where someone is not in the headspace for a romantic relationship but may be willing to reciprocate sexual attraction, but the OP's post just reeks of wanting some form of manipulation or Jedi mind trick to happen which is not only unrealistic but downright terrible.
Yeah I get it, if you pine over someone for a long time you kind of wish you want something from all of that time spent thinking about them but if they're not on board then it is not worth the effort and will only damage that relationship and hurt that person. Just walk away.
The good thing is that almost nobody (hopefully next time) has given him what he was asking for.
Either decide you're capable of being friends with this person without trying to fuck them, or move on.
Treating a relationship between people instead as something to be manipulated to get sex and if not achieved, somehow worth less despite the person seeing you as a friend is very objectifying.
And this:
Plus the "you turn into a fwb" is all sorts of objectifying. It's not "the relationship changes," which would be humanizing. It's like some game or something you're manipulating.
FriendZone means that person A meets person B, but shortly afterwards person B decided consciously or unconsciously not reciprocate in any sexual way with A.
What else is there to understand? Why the f does that has to be a bad thing?
OP is entitle to feel whatever he wants, but by all mean he must be honest with him and her if he is going to hang out with her.
Did you married all the people you fucked?
Did you boyfriended all the guys you fucked?
So then fucking describe the relationship with the person. The term friendzone has a dehumanizing negative connotation. It also puts the onus on person B. All of the negativity is on them. It's like they're victimizing person A by burdening them with only friendship.
The phrasing in the OP also continues the typical friendzone application where it seems like some sort of manipulated game. "I put so much niceness points in but she won't fuck me? Has anyone got this to work?"
Seriously it sounds like something from gaming side. Like the entire OP's title could be about a game.
Because the term has been weaponized as an attempt to chastise women for some perceived sleight. That's why it's a bad thing.
Generally speaking, women don't friend-zone men as an arbitrary action. If you ask woman out and she declines, it's not because some imaginary line has been crossed and she can only see you as a friend now. It's because she's not attracted to you, or isn't ready to date, or doesn't think you have enough to offer, or any other natural reason. Which is why saying that someone has friend-zoned you is completely inappropriate, because it's laying the blame on them for some false entitlement that you're claiming. When you're complaining that someone put you in the friend zone, you're complaining that the body you want to fuck won't let you fuck it. That's disgusting.
Yes I have hooked up casually with somebody who initially rejected me and wanted to be friends as well as other women and men I know
It's a bad thing because it's always in the context of someone "putting" someone in the friendzone as sort of punishment or consolation prize. Sometimes people only feel friendly. You don't have to accept it but a person can genuinely like you but just not that way
User banned (1 week): Misogyny; dismissing concerns of sexism over multiple posts
All of them, your opinions and assumptions.
I dont know thats sounds like projection.
Generally speaking not only women because women does want sex too and can be rejected. And reject and being rejected is a good thing.
The blame and the complaining part is in your head, sorry.
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this is not what it is at all, it is one individual interested in a physical relationship while the other does not
that is it, nothing more, nothing less.
I'm not projecting, you daft cretin. I'm telling you my lived experience and the shared experiences of hundreds of women like me. We get blamed for friend-zoning guys who spend weeks if not years pretending to be our friends, only because they thought we might eventually become sexually available to them, and then they get mad when their advances are rejected. And it hurts. It fucking hurts to find out that someone whom you thought of as a friend only saw you as someone they eventually would be able to fuck.
If you're going to be too cowardly or too stupid or too hateful to accept that this is something that continually happens, then I don't know what else to tell you.
I'm not talking about what it could mean or should mean. I'm talking about the spiteful context it's used in on the internet to malign women who reject their friends advances, as if their autonomy and personhood is a lower priority.
Then say that rather than using objectifying and dehumanizing language to describe it? Terms have connotations and implications and how we use them matters.
Well you already told me everything, did insulting me made you feel better now?
You don't get to play the moral authority card when you're the one defending misogynistic attitudes.
"Zone" implies it's an area that can be moved out of.
Which is a toxic mindset to approach it all because it inherently means that despite the girl (or boy ofcourse but usually the "friendzone" is in refference to boys seeking a girl so bear with me) clearly displaying an aversion to a chance of a relationship ever happening, the friendzonee seeks to continue pursuing them.
Viewing there being some sort of zone that has to be escaped inherently views the act of the girl not rewarding the boys as wrong or something that must be overcome. That any rejection can be overcome through effort (it can't).Plus it values the friendship of any member of the opposite sex entirely on their willingness to engage in a relationship.
In a healthy reality/mindset, if you're rejected then that's the end of it. It's dishonest, diecetful and loads more bad stuff. Plus you're not gonna sleep with 99% of the women you meet in your life anyway, and pursuing one whose not interested is the least effective way of getting an SO or socialising properly.
You dont get to play anything, If you are not going to argue in good faith and just force your believes, there is the ignore button right up in your user dashboard.
It's just the sunk cost fallacy at work. "I've already invested in trying to sleep with X person, so I should keep investing in that eventuality".
As a rule, I report trolls instead of ignoring them. You know damn well that you don't have a single point to actually counter me with, otherwise you'd stop this gas lighting.
Your experience is not the experience of all people and that's a fact. And we are not discussing your experience. Your sole experience is not enough as a premise to determine the general experience.
Unhinged rejected people will act in bad faith doesn't matter to them, they don't need a justification such as a friend-zone to being shitty, fact. Other people take the hint and respect others will.
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Bruh, I saw you in the crush thread.
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