Spanish-speaking Era will appreciate this one. I laughed out loud for real when I saw it.
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Wow I never thought of it that way. That's actually quite poetic.The castle fell on top of her. A little symbolic honestly.
(Also that's a pretty horrible death, being crushed)
D&D are the true king/queenslayers.Stannis fans I owe you lot the biggest of apologies. I enjoyed watching your loser King get dragged in the mud (it's still funny to me dammit...20 good men lol), but you guys have insisted that D&D butchered him in the show. I was wrong to laugh at your pain. I know how it feels now.
That inside the episode had me in literal tears. Do you have any idea idea what it's like growing up with an abusive family member? Going through your entire life with an awful jumble of fear and hatred while somehow rationalizing that it's somehow your fault? The scene where Viserys got killed was incredibly cathartic o me, only for the showrunners to come out and say that it was meant to show how awful Dany would become because her reaction to her abuser's death wasn't "proper".
Yeah, I kinda have an issue with people handwaving away those dislikes as just "nerds".
I liked the sun thing as a gimmick to get her close, but then they left any semblance of that when she was torching the city.Euron lost his aim hack in this episode because the sun was shining a bit too much.
The Hound talking sense into Arya was so heartwarming. Fuck, Im so sad that he and Arya cant walk off into the sunset.
I've only been invested in Arya for the past 2-3 seasons. This was a sloppy mess and completely out of character, but I gave up caring about Danny and Cersei and the Iron Throne a while back.
Does Danny have green eyes? Arya is going to kill her, right? Or will Jon do the deed?
one of the popular 'hero' isn't nobelly saving people but essentially bombing a city in retaliation with weapon that she's had all this time. Very different from fan sevice and hero worship I thought they might be be more off.This was the first great GOT episode in a loooong time for me. Despite all the hints and foreshadowing, I didn't expect her to go full mad queen. For her to "burn them all" just like her daddy ordered when he was killed to start off this whole saga... there's just so much that came full circle in a GOT kind of way. This is the first time I've felt like OK they're doing the best they can while being super rushed to wrap things up.
The Hound talking sense into Arya was so heartwarming. Fuck, Im so sad that he and Arya cant walk off into the sunset.
Jon literally told her she was his queen. Jon marched for her. Gonna have to try harder than that.
Yep. They made Tyrion dumb as a rock for 2 seasons just to have this.
Wait what?They had to sacrifice Tyrion's character, make Euron a god-like shot for only one episode, make the Scorpions have stupidly huge effective range for only one episode, make Cersei not take advantage of Dany's weakness like she hasn't done that type of shit the ENTIRE show, make Jon idiotically tell Dany about being a targ, make Jon idiotically tell Sansa about being a Targ, and then, finally, in the after episode segment have the writers basically spell out that if Dany had gotten fucked by Jon in the same episode she goes genocidal, she would not have gone genocidal.
Oh, and have everyone forget about the time Dany's dragon got shot by a scorpion and the fact that the Iron Fleet would probably intercept them.
And a star wars trilogy. Truly the epitome of mediocre white men failing upwards. Before this one of them was a writer on xmen origins lol
Tyrion and Varys chose to believe in something that was always far fetched and eschewed reality for a fantasy. Jorah and Missandei were Dany's moral compass and much better advisers.Both Tyrion and Varys became shells of themselves the moment they joined up with Dany. This shit "war" against Cersei could've been done Season 7 episode 1.
Having a character's idealistic / naive / well-intentioned goals fall apart when shit hits the fan is not bad writing by any stretch.
Bro, are you seriously?
Character saying "I won't do X, I won't succumb to that" and them succumbing to that is telegraphing 101. lol
Did you think the crypts not being safe wasn't telegraphed because we were told they were?
Spanish-speaking Era will appreciate this one. I laughed out loud for real when I saw it.
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.D&D talking about the Jon not fucking scene "Jon snow is someone she's fallen in love with and as far as she's concerned, by this point, she knows Jon has betrayed her by telling people about his true identity, and also the fact he's unable to return her affections at this point. I think that when she says, "let it be fear" she's resigning herself to the fact that she may have to get things done in a way that isn't pleasant and she may have to get things done in a way that is horrible to lots of people... (talk about brother) life if any of these things had happened in any different way, I don't think we'd be seeing this side of her."
I dunno, I'm pretty sure that's implying that Jon not fucking her was the final straw. Lol, crazy bitch needs to get laid, amirite?
How to fix a lot of problems with one simple change: Cersei throws Missandei off of the balcony when she hears the bells start ringing.
I meaaan Dany's gonna do the same shit in the books ya know? It'll just be better presented and not happen over the book equivalent of 3 episodes. Youd probably end up hating "true Dany" even more lol.Stannis fans I owe you lot the biggest of apologies. I enjoyed watching your loser King get dragged in the mud (it's still funny to me dammit...20 good men lol), but you guys have insisted that D&D butchered him in the show. I was wrong to laugh at your pain. I know how it feels now.
Just because there is foreshadowing doesn't mean the actual turn is well developed or executed, it wasn't.
There is a big character development gap between her dark impulses, isolation, and rule by fear....to burning the city she wished to rule to the ground.
Better writers wouldn't of left long-time fans having to scramble for piecemeal rationalizations to justify to other long-time fans why maybe it does make sense if you just look at it my way.
"Dany's arc was telegraphed!"
Hmm....
Tonight's episode, although a cool battle was SHIT as far as the writing and characters go. Jaime's character arc completely wasted, Arya suddenly turns heel because the Hound tells her she'll die (even though she didn't listen the past 5 times he said something similar), and of course Dany, just hand waving her straight into the realm of Anakin circa "I hate sand" era.
I don't get it, it's like the showrunners are RUSHING to finish it and don't give a shit about keeping the quality up.
I'd say if GRRM's book comes out I have $100 that the ending is going to be drastically different then this shit.
Underrated post. Agreed 110%I'm out of touch. Every episode this season I've watched so far I've enjoyed to varying degrees, I come online, and it's the worst shit ever and a complete disgrace to everything that came before it etc. Either I'm really easy to please when it comes to GoT, or I'm just too dumb to see all this horrible content. Either way I've gotten enjoyment out of this show for a long-ass time, so I'm satisfied. It sucks for others that feel so let down.
Varis chose to spread the word regarding Jon's claim to the throne over his own personal well being. He made it clear he wanted to do what's best for the realm and had obviously seen enough wrong in Dany to take that stand and pay with his life. He'd expressed regret about serving the wrong kind of ruler before, and he'd bought into Dany's proclamations of being different to the rest. He realized he was wrong and took a stand.
For me, Dany having this within her has been telegraphed for many seasons. She got her tactics right with the dragon after being taken by surprise in the last encounter, hence the "ease" in dealing with the Scorpions. She lost two of her children, found out she hasn't the true claim to the Iron Throne that's been her driving motivation for years, has been explicitly betrayed by the man she loves, as well as her closest advisers, lost multiple devoted people (including one in the nastiest way when Missandie was murdered in front of her), and felt backed into a corner and seeing fear as her only path.
Cersei was a monster, and died in fear in the knowledge of losing yet another child. She received momentary comfort with Jamie before dying in a place that made her say "not like this" just before hand. Besides, that moment was more about Jamie's redemption than any comfort for her, IMO. She wasn't a monster on the level of Joffrey or Ramsey, she didn't really need that vicious of a death. Arya getting the kill would've ran counter to the Hound's message to her regarding revenge. Perhaps Dany directly torching her would've been a way to go, but not with the direction her character took tonight.
Overall I thought it was a well done episode. It was nasty and brutal and the turn taken was as horrifyingly portrayed as it needed to be. I'm really looking forward to next week's finale.
That's kind of where I stand. Like fuckin' A man, what an amazing production. Look at all the money!I think what's keeping me from completely writing things off is that everything other than the writing has been excellent this season. Most of the directing, cinematography, and performances have elevated the material a lot.
I'm actually ok with Dany going mad queen considering what had happened to her recently and it was actually pretty satisfying watching it happen, I'm still just annoyed at how we got here. Her going north and getting no appreciation even after saving everyone just seemed really unrealistic. Jon acting super weird around her didn't seem realistic. Sansa plotting against her didn't seem to have any good reasons behind it. Rhaegal dying the way he did and Missandei getting captured was just stupid. All of this happening within the span of a few episodes makes it even worse.
I'm going to say this and get absolutely fucking destroyed but I don't care:
-This is exactly in line with how the books will end
-The ending was always going to piss people off because it's making a very pointed message on the way we fantacize war and violence and only see the best in characters who are presented to us as 'heroes.'
-I think a lot of people fundamentally misunderstand Game of Thrones.
There are certainly issues with this season. But people saying there are hard character turns (Dany, Arya) or that Jaime's end didn't fit his character willfully ignored important facets if these characters.
I'm 100% sure that Dany will do this or something like it in the books.
I'm also 100% sure that George will have better setup and lead in than, "lol she burned two dudes for not bending the knee and another for betraying her."
Good or bad has nothing to do with it, I'm pointing out how goofy is it to point out a character saying they won't do x and then them doing it and trying to use that as proof that it's not telegraphing when it's literally proof of telegraphing.it is bad writing when you have her not going that route for 8 seasons and then you suddenly bend her to suit your quick story needs without any real time to build up to that leap.
It's as good writing as Anakin's "turn" when he slaughters younglings out of the blue, that's not good writing by any stretch, far from it.
In isolation the big episodes were solid, this one in particular, it's just like everything else the writing has held it back.S8E2 is fantastic and is one of the best episodes we have had since Season 4.
And despite the Long Night's many flaws, I think it's a good episode. I enjoyed it quite a lot, before the post-analysis kicked in anyway.
I mean someone basically saying that they're not gonna burn down the city at first but then doing it after they see their trusted adviser and BFF get decapitated, then another adviser plot against them basically leading her to lose her mind lowkey makes sense seeing as mindset can change over time.
Jon killed a child. Mad king.Jon killed other Northmen kin and Nights Watch bros... Mad king here we go!
(Playing by the "Dany mad queen was visible from a mile away" logic)